Hurricane Katrina

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Ya know I alwayd did wonder how newscasters could just stand there and film a disaster like that and not just want to leap into action and start saving lives. <<; I mean, have someone film you saving people or something if it's so God **** important. --;

As for the animal thing, I'm a huge animal rights kind of person. XD I don't understand why people can't try to give an equal amount of effort to save the beloved pets of those whose homes were destroyed by the hurricane. Afterall, it wasn't just the humans who lost homes, but all of those loyal animals did as well.

I do agree with what Dakota said, there is the need to put humans as the first priority, but that does not mean we have to disregard the animals' needs entirely. <.<

~Kelsey
 
Dakota said:
I may sound heartless but...I really don't think they should...I think they should focus 100% of their offorts on saving people, I mean, you can say a dog's life is more important than a little girls. I'm not saying you should ignore the animals all together, but put the priority on peope first



O_o;;

I don't believe this is unecessary, I think it's a good topic. It doesn't break the rules or spam, whats wrong with it?

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There?s already a thread about the hurricane, I still don?t think we need a separate one discussing other aspects of it.
 
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That'll work for now~

Anywho, animals are important and all...but animals are meant to live outdoors in rough conditions. Humans on the other hand aren't, they can't take the same type of living that animals can and it's much harder for an older human to get by than it is for an older animal.
 
I think this whole thing is Bush's fault...He goes in to VEIW the damage. I bet you he seen at least 100 people on thier roof tops waiting to be rescued and he didn't do jack for them! He is SAYING he wants money to help but the real people who are doing the recovery is the neighboring states....and diffrent states around....congress and the pres isn't doing jack! It ticks me off! We need a new president!
 
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Randall-Kun said:
I think this whole thing is Bush's fault...He goes in to VEIW the damage. I bet you he seen at least 100 people on thier roof tops waiting to be rescued and he didn't do jack for them! He is SAYING he wants money to help but the real people who are doing the recovery is the neighboring states....and diffrent states around....congress and the pres isn't doing jack! It ticks me off! **** Bush! We need a new president!
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Watch your mouth, you may not like him, but that doesn't give you any right to break the rules.
 
Randall-Kun said:
I think this whole thing is Bush's fault...He goes in to VEIW the damage. I bet you he seen at least 100 people on thier roof tops waiting to be rescued and he didn't do jack for them! He is SAYING he wants money to help but the real people who are doing the recovery is the neighboring states....and diffrent states around....congress and the pres isn't doing jack! It ticks me off! **** Bush! We need a new president!
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Shutup....do that again and you get a temporary ban...read the rules why don't you.

How is this bush's fault? Did bush use his magic gypsy powers to cause the hurricane? Besides, America has never been hit by a natural disaster like this one before...we really don't know how to react...this is a learning mode if anything...
 
Dakota said:
Shutup....do that again and you get a temporary ban...read the rules why don't you.

I edited my post andI aplogized if you looked. Its Bushes fault because he took the money away from The Corps. of Engineer who where buildingthe levies...He took their money away 2 years ago...the levies would have been stronger if he hadn't of took the money away! Thats how its his fault...the Hurricane isn't but the flooding and and people not being rescued is....this is America people! The typhoon victims got more help than this! people are lying dead in the middle of streets old people are covered up by cloths....babies are dying left and right and it is rediculus.and FEMA should be helping aswell. THey said meet them at the Civic Center and NO ONE was there! They are FINALLY pumping the water out when they could have did that the DAY after the Hurricane not a week after...Like I said before this is America the richest country in the world and we have people suffering like this?!
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Don't do this. I post like every day in here. Wah! Randall-Kun, stop this talk about bush.
 
Do you have even the slightest idea how hard a pump is to set up under the conditions they have to deal with? Exactly, America has never had to deal with anything like this, communication was cut short, police officers ducked out and left almost no one to deal with the looters for a long while. And the area where the pump was set up had to be cleared first, it's a very remote area, so at the most one guard can be taken, looters and any other crazy person that wanted to could just go and shoot the workers...and that's been happening lately.

And no, the internet does not mean America, and you're on a board with rules, you have your limits.
 
I have Limits i know that! But Bush should have the army in there! I I hope your familes are safe! I gtg bye!
 
well the navy or somthin has lots of jets and stuff and ive heard they've been usen even the apache helicopters to get the people otta there.

and on the animal subject there isnt any food to give the animals!
i am an animal lover so i think that those people who set up that find your pet site are my heros!
 
If the leader of the country is to be blamed whenever s/he took money away from something that has the POTENTIAL to be useful, then no one will be a politician because no one will qualify.

If we ever life a live with so many "could have" and "what if" then just kill yourself off right away... you will spend your entire life thinking about it because there's endless ways to ask yourself these types of questions. Oh what if I didn't go to this school but go to this school instead? Oh I could have saved some money by not going to the restaurant here and did this instead... Oh oh oh what if this what if I could have done this blah blah blah.

Or I can blame the death of a child because of you, Randall-Kun, in the same manner.

"Oh why did you go to eat out in a restaurant on <insert date here>! You know that you only need 29 dollars american per month, and give the money to WorldVision Organization in order to dig a well, build a bridge on top of funding a poor kid in a 3rd world country to go to school!? A precious child probably died out of hunger, or suffer a poor life due to your refusal to fund for these children and went to fill your stomach with unnecessarily rich food instead!" and blah blah blah I can go on but let's not.

I can spin the entire hurricane to sound like it's the people's fault too if I'm to be obstinate. I can blame then for not seeing the warning message on TV on the Thursday before the storm. A lot of people ran, but why not these remainig people who are still stuck there? Oh they're poor they can't afford to lose anything, but so what? Regardless of the people staying there or not, they can't do anything about the hurricane anyway in terms of destroying the little they have. They could have ran as much as they can. Even the edge of New Orlean will be a lot better than staying in the city center, and so on. Blah blah blah

If we're looking for a blame, there's plenty of people who got responsibility, from Bush to the american people all the way up to the British, will be held responsible. It's seriously pointless... let's think of a way to solve the problem, and not sidetrack from the diaster by creating more problems.

On another recent news report, USA calculated the time it takes to pump out the water to be 3 months (4 at the latest.) They will need another 3 months to dry the ground assuming that the rainfall isn't unexpectionally high. A week of time at most after the drying period is necessary to remove the debris and clean up the ground, then they can restart on the rebuild process. At a rough estimation, the next year's summer New Orleans and any other affected area should start on its way back to a normal life.



And since "freedom of speech" is mentioned, does that mean Frosty gets it too? =D

If so, then considering how someone said "considering how America is the richest country on earth"... maybe this hurricane is a perfect sign from God the High Above as a wake-up slap against America.

Richest?

Most powerful?

"Meh"
 
uh whatevur last year i was hit by chrlie francis and jean!
 
Randall-Kun said:
I edited my post andI aplogized if you looked. Its Bushes fault because he took the money away from The Corps. of Engineer who where buildingthe levies...He took their money away 2 years ago...the levies would have been stronger if he hadn't of took the money away! Thats how its his fault...the Hurricane isn't but the flooding and and people not being rescued is....this is America people! The typhoon victims got more help than this! people are lying dead in the middle of streets old people are covered up by cloths....babies are dying left and right and it is rediculus.and FEMA should be helping aswell. THey said meet them at the Civic Center and NO ONE was there! They are FINALLY pumping the water out when they could have did that the DAY after the Hurricane not a week after...Like I said before this is America the richest country in the world and we have people suffering like this?!
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I think it's funny to see that even a Hurricane hits and Bush gets blamed for it. Isn't there enough things out there to blame him on? Bush can no more prevent a Hurricane no more then you can.
Ok time to set a few things right about your post (and then on to the part about the Hurricane).
Bush didn't take money away from them. That problem was there when good ol' Bill Clinton was there and he did nothing about it. So why are you not saying anything about him? Why doesn't he get a bit of blame from you but Bush gets it all? If you really have to blame someone then go out and blame the Mayor of New Orleans. He has been told for years and years that the levy wouldn't withstand anything bigger then a cat 3, did he do anything? No, he didn't do anything about it when he was told that. And he saw it coming so why didn't he evacuate the city? Like it or not the President can't be everywhere at the same time. He can't be doing everything at the same time, if he was then we wouldn't need a Mayor or anyone else.
Did you know Bush got FEMA to send busses and busses down there to get the people out? He sent them down there 3-7 days before it hit New Orleans. Do you know where all them busses are now? They are under water and sitting where FEMA left them, because the Mayor didn't evacuate the city. If he evacuated then (when Bush sent all them busses down there) then lots and lots of of lives would have been saved. I heard on the news that they went to an old folks home, they found 80 dead there. If you got to blame someone for them 80 dead people that couldn't have made it out on their own, then blame the Mayor of New Orleans.
I was listening to Rush Limbaugh (all of you should tune into his show, on the radio if you live in the US you might be able to pick him up in other countries since he does have more people that listens to his show then any other show on the radio. He has lots of ideas that makes you think) the other day. And he was talking about how we have all the advancements and all that stuff. But we can't stop a Hurricane (or anything else out of nature) no better then we could thousands of years ago. But Bush gets blamed for it because he didn't "do something" about it.

I think it's sad to see a lot of that city under water, and you also got people burning buildings and stuff down and looting everything. It's like they have to have a way to get away with it (they wouldn't have done it before, but now that no one can stop them they are doing it). I can understand looting for food and stuff for your family or a necessity (clothes, fresh water etc). But having 5 boxes of new Nike shoes or a new big screen TV is not a necessity. And that's what's sad, they are trying to make money out of this (they wouldn't have got the stuff before the Hurricane).

I feel sorry for them people that lost everything down there. And I feel sorry for the loss of life that happened out of all this. The ones that's still alive still has their life, and they should be thankful that they have that. Homes and cars and all that kind of stuff can be replaced. Lives can't, if they made it out then they should be happy about that. I know I would hate to lose everything I own, but if me and my family is safe then that's what matters. Not how much money you lost, or how much money you'll get from whoever.
I really can't say much about the lives lost, because most of them new it was going to hit them. And they had a chance to get out before hand, but they didn't. Any loss of life is sad (may it be from this Hurricane to the war in Iraq to someone having a wreck in a car) and I fear once all the water is drained and they can get to all the homes and building the death toll will go high. But to me a lot of them deaths could have been prevented by just them leaving their home (they put the home and the things in it over their own life and they had to pay a price for it as well).
 
The only thing Bush gets blamed for (that is within reason) is that the army didn't join the rescue mission until, I think, 4 days after the hurricane hit. That 4 day delay for the army is what's getting Bush into trouble in terms of how he dealt with the storm.

The other thing that's rather suspicious is the poker face regarding the strength of the storm. When the Bush government (but not Bush himself) has to face the media regarding the hurricane and its destruction, the official (I forgot who the man is... I'm not American so I don't know my American politicians that well at all) claimed that they underestimated the strength of the storm to be a 4 or even 5. Of course, Canada CTV News got that right away, and they played another clip of the local weather forecast in USA on the Thursday/Friday before the hurricane hit. Over there, of course they warned that it is probably the first hurricane in history ranked 4 or even a 5 there...

I don't blame Bush for the slow reaction because I think that it's understandable considering how USA has never been hit by something like this throughout any part of history. In fact, hardly anywhere in the world has ever been hit by a hurricane so strong, besides perhaps Mexico and Japan where they're well trained for earthquakes/storms. Don't blame Bush for the funding on the dam either, because honestly it's once in a blue moon that the dam isn't strong enough against a hurricane like this. What I dislike about the Bush government (not Bush. It's the Bush government. Yes, there is a difference) is why did they lie to the media regarding their failure to predict the strength of the storm... they don't have to lie. Just tell us the fact that they're inexperienced at handling a hurricane of such strength, and they will be easily forgiven... but now, I do have to reconsider...


<= is normally a Bush supporter too, but this time Bush isn't too cool with the lies here
 
*pats Andy* good job.How can a Hurricane be blamed on Bush.

My heart goes out to everyone who has suffered from this terrible hurricane.
 
yeah me to but serously i was hit by hurricane charlie francis and jean.
 
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