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Mafia Madness: Sight [Game Over]

I revealed that i invest mana im not sure but i think nightkrow also invest him. Also i AM probably naive because I got 3 persons inno.
 
Hmm... At that time they are kanekii as for other is jade but I don't think jade is one.


Edit: Ninja'd.

Before I tell anything, you tell everything kaneki!!.
 
so truth be told i didn't investigate wicked i just didn't want to come out and say that i investigated someone twice just to be sure. I actually investigated gimmepie two nights in a row. the first night i got ullion as inno, second night i got gp as mafia, decided i should go for a second try on him just to make sure and he came back as mafia again.
 
So, you're most likely true, and not confused.
Although coming out with this information when desinishon has you as mafia is kinda weird.
Why lie in the first place? checking twice to see if you're confused is a completely valid reason.

you haven't done anything scummy so far, so I believe you.
Can you check wicked? If you don't die by next phase that is.
 
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aeternum said:
so truth be told i didn't investigate wicked i just didn't want to come out and say that i investigated someone twice just to be sure. I actually investigated gimmepie two nights in a row. the first night i got ullion as inno, second night i got gp as mafia, decided i should go for a second try on him just to make sure and he came back as mafia again.
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Which means you're either true, confused or Insane.
Sadly, you're definitely not true.
Ullion died inno, so you're not insane.

So either you're True and I'm a mafia, or you're Confused. I'm pretty sure I'm not mafia but you're welcome to investigate me again if you want. Or alternatively double check on someone else to confirm yourself.
 
aeternum said:
so truth be told i didn't investigate wicked i just didn't want to come out and say that i investigated someone twice just to be sure. I actually investigated gimmepie two nights in a row. the first night i got ullion as inno, second night i got gp as mafia, decided i should go for a second try on him just to make sure and he came back as mafia again.
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I'm gonna throw out the possibility of random results being per person, not per investigation. It's possible you'll always get mafia for Pie regardless, you wouldn't get mafia once and inno another time. Not sure if that's how Lycan would do it, but that seems like a possibility.
 
Let's kill brad and we're going to know I'm right or wrong. If I'm right aeternum is mafia which means gp is not mafia and we're save from that much shenanigans.
 
Desinishon said:
Hmm... At that time they are kanekii as for other is jade but I don't think jade is one.
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Ok, you definitely picked up on something similar to what I did at least. Except I don't think Kaneki looks like a buddy, if Kaneki was a buddy then you'd have to assume Kaneki gave his inno result just for Bard to counter with a mafia result.
gimmepie said:
At this point I'm pretty confident that I'm paranoid, but obviously that's not 100% guaranteed. So on that note, I'm gonna put my votes as

[Kill] Jade

1. Because rule of three, if he dies inno I'm paranoid.
2. Before he comes up with another plan that gets innocents killed and reads the people who would like to not kill an inno as maf.
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You can still also be insane, and there's a very slight chance of you being confused
gimmepie said:
On another note, it might be worth looking into either Wicked or Nimsy at some point. I doubt they're both mafia but something weird is going on there. I'm also not sure what exactly makes Desi confident he's true but obviously we should look into that too.
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Why at some point later and not now? I'd prefer to get as much out of this day phase as possible, so I wouldn't mind seeing pressure on either of them right now
 
Don't you think that's easy superjolt. Kaneki!!! saying mana inno and bard saying mafia. They both know its D1, everyone was trying to figure out which seer they were, who gonna notice something like that.
 
Wicked3DS said:
I'm gonna throw out the possibility of random results being per person, not per investigation. It's possible you'll always get mafia for Pie regardless, you wouldn't get mafia once and inno another time. Not sure if that's how Lycan would do it, but that seems like a possibility.
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I really doubt this. It's not how the role works on EM and I don't see Lycan changing that. More likely he's just had some bad luck with me (or he could be maf but I dunno, seems kind of risky).

Desinishon said:
Let's kill brad and we're going to know I'm right or wrong. If I'm right aeternum is mafia which means gp is not mafia and we're save from that much shenanigans.
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Or we could kill Jade, confirm several people, end his hazardous plans and also lend credence to your theory if he turns out maf.

Superjolt said:
You can still also be insane, and there's a very slight chance of you being confused
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This is true, I figured I'd acknowledged that. Call it a gut feeling or whatever though, but I'm pretty sure I'm paranoid.

Why at some point later and not now? I'd prefer to get as much out of this day phase as possible, so I wouldn't mind seeing pressure on either of them right now
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I was talking about night actions. Feel free to pressure people as much as you want right now but at night we can each only pick one target and we have a smorgasbord of options right now.
 
Let's see GP. How many people here followed "the plan"? How many of them really investigated jade?
 
inb4 both wicked and gimmepie are mafia.

since ive revealed what I have I'll go ahead and [kill] gimmepie
and forgive me, but what exactly states that ullion is the/a true seer? since yknow, there wasn't anything in his death post to give away a true seer alignment and the roles upon death are only listed as seer.
 
Kaneki!!! said:
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Kaneki, thoughts on Nimsy, Wicked and Desinishon? (and maybe aeternum as well?)
Desinishon said:
Don't you think that's easy superjolt. Kaneki!!! saying mana inno and bard saying mafia. They both know its D1, everyone was trying to figure out which seer they were, who gonna notice something like that.
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Not saying it's impossible. But Kaneki could also be telling the truth and Bard could have just jumped at that opportunity. It's kind of hard to say for sure without a flip from Bard, and this actually gets kind of WIFOM-y
Wicked3DS said:
Alright well now that I've got a bit better of a grasp on things...

Lynching JaDe for one can confirm whether I am a true or confused seer. I see him as suspicious because coming up with an elaborate plan that early just seems like a little much. Seeing his martyrdom now, he probably is inno, which would confirm my confused state, then I won't be much help from this point except to vote.

Honestly, Nimsy seems to be dancing around quite a bit and that's kinda suspicious to me, so I say investigate her this night and see what you get.
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This is what still confuses me, because... Where. Is. The. Scum. Motivation. for this? This is why I tried to question you on it yesterday but you never answered. This is just like a copy/paste of the same explanation you gave yesterday. Why would scum propose a plan that ultimately benefits the entire town and could also make them and their partners more likely to be caught?

What you said about Nimsy I think was true about her play on D2 but her play so far today is much more consistent so I'm torn.

I want to lay out some points about Nimsy and Wicked, but I really need to go to bed so I'll have to wait until tomorrow.

Want to hear some input from Abby, Nightkrow and Gunner btw
 
Superjolt said:
Any other reads? I'm interested to hear your thoughts on Nimsy and Wicked in particular
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Having missed 2 NAs, this is kinda hard to keep up with.

So, I've been scum reading Nimsy mostly, she is pretty adamant on lynching people without a real excuse, or that's the way I see it at least.
Based on this, since Jade read as both as innos and jd maf, I believe Jade is confused.
Wicked has been acting weird for the most part, but I just think he is confused, both IRL and ingame lol.

With things gone that far, I don't think there's a reason to hide my read anymore tbh, hell I'm not sure why I hid it in the first place. I went for Jade, since I'm convinced he is town, so even though I had only 1 NA, I could at least know what kind of seer I am not. I got Jade as inno, so I'm either true, naive or confused.
 
Personally, I find Wicked and Nimsy both suss, but then looking at how they are talking to each other, it seems that they aren't working together, so I'm pretty sure one of them is maf, and one of them is inno. I'm betting my bottom on Nimsy because iirc, she doesn't really act like this when she's inno... Might be wrong about it...
 
Not very much on Deninshon, and as gunner said both wicked and nims are suss
 
Honestly, this will make me look dcummy af, but I have a slight fos on Desinshom.

There wasn't really much need to hide your true report.

And I feel like withdrawing my vote from JaDe, not madia would sacrifice themself like that, and we'll lose if we don't lynch a mafia soon.
[KILL]Bardothren
This is a THROWAWAY vote
 
I know my reasoning isn't great GP, as I pointed out. But when no other plan is purposed and then the next day (with no legitimate clear on jd) people are opposing it without giving any form of alternative, it doesn't look like they are working towards the town's best interest. And hindsight bias is always 20 20.

I'm still confused why people think my plan was scummy or elaborate. We all investigate 1 person, then get a confirmation of our results based on their death flip. It is a bit of a risky gamble because we are potentially (and have unfortunately) killing townies, but it is the quickest way to find our sanity. Without knowing sanity these results are basically useless, so early on I came up with a way to make the information we have actually mean something. I'd rather not be running around like a chicken with it's head chopped off, but the lack of cohesion has rendered the plan less effective.

Without knowing your sanity, it's just shots in the dark while the mafia can meticulously pick us off one at a time. Maybe you'll hit one occasionally, but I think we have the odds stacked against us, especially not knowing how many of them there are. After today, some people should have strong ideas about their sanity so some real investigation can start. I will be the 6th town death, leaving 14 players. I would guess 4-5 mafia (maybe fewer due to the challenges we have of sanity), leaving 9-10 town.

I've been making a spreadsheet of everyone's claims, before I die would you guys want me to post what I'm seeing as possible sanity results?
 
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