2nd Gen Metal & Color Generation Help Thread

[Auric]

I'll tell you right now that Pokemon Crystal is my all-time favorite Pokemon game, I loved nearly everything about it. If you get over the fact that the game is over a decade old now, I'd give it a try! Hours of amazing, fun gameplay.

 

[cucco002]

Well, I surely can get over that, I actually enjoy games way older than this game, and I don't think this would be an exception, its just that that the hack remake caught my eye. But probably I am going to play the original game and maybe later give it a try to this Liquid Crystal, I mean, why not?

So anyway, if someone who has played both games can share their opinion of them, it would appreciated.

Thanks for your reply!

 

[Guardian]

Do you want to play an orignal or a fake game? Easy as that.

 

[Mobile Suit Articuno]

Do you want to play an orignal or a fake game? Easy as that.

It's not that simple.
'Fake' games can be better or equal to their original counterparts. However, Crystal has this natural charm that I can't quite explain. I suppose that if you want shinier graphics and overall a more Advance-d experience, you should pick Liquid Crystal. If you want to play the original experience, then play regular Vanilla Crystal. It's the same game, anyways.

 

[cucco002]

Do you want to play an original or a fake game? Easy as that.

That is the a kind of harsh but effective way to say it, and I guess you can say its exactly why I didn't want to go for "Liquid Crystal", but it got me interested with all the pretty things that offers.

And as I said, I plan to play the official game, even thought the hacked game seems to be nicely done, someone surely put a lot of work into it.

But as I said, maybe sometime I will play that one, I bet it would be fun and that is what it is for after all.

Thank you for your replies!

Edit:

It's not that simple.
'Fake' games can be better or equal to their original counterparts. However, Crystal has this natural charm that I can't quite explain. I suppose that if you want shinier graphics and overall a more Advance-d experience, you should pick Liquid Crystal. If you want to play the original experience, then play regular Vanilla Crystal. It's the same game, anyways.

Charm is a good way to say it. Thank you for the advice, If I have the possibility I want to play both, but if you don't mind it I am going for the regular game first.

 

[Guardian]

It's not that simple.
'Fake' games can be better or equal to their original counterparts. However, Crystal has this natural charm that I can't quite explain. I suppose that if you want shinier graphics and overall a more Advance-d experience, you should pick Liquid Crystal. If you want to play the original experience, then play regular Vanilla Crystal. It's the same game, anyways.

That is the a kind of harsh but effective way to say it, and I guess you can say its exactly why I didn't want to go for "Liquid Crystal", but it got me interested with all the pretty things that offers.

And as I said, I plan to play the official game, even thought the hacked game seems to be nicely done, someone surely put a lot of work into it.

But as I said, maybe sometime I will play that one, I bet it would be fun and that is what it is for after all.

Thank you for your replies!

Edit:



Charm is a good way to say it. Thank you for the advice, If I have the possibility I want to play both, but if you don't mind it I am going for the regular game first.

I believe it it that easy.
OP, sorry if it sounded harsh, I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything, Im just saying how I think it is :D

What are you looking for in a game exactly?

If you want the feel of playing an old game with one of the longest story, go with Crystal. I foyu like the story, but not the graphics, go with Soulsilver. I googled, so apparently Liquid Crystal is Crystal with 3rd gen graphics. I would go with Soulsilver if graphics bug you. Go with Crystal cos originals are always better, remakes can be "better", but they are not originals. Idk how to explain.

Anyway, definitely play both, and if I were you, I'd start with original :D

 

[Hiatus]

Pokémon Crystal is amazing, trust me, if you've never played any second-generation games before but have played others ahead of them, then you'd probably won't be enjoying them as much. If you do want to enjoy, you'v be better off playing their remakes, which, in this case, would be HeartGold and SoulSilver. n_n;; If you're unable to get a hold of them, then Liquid Crystal could work, too; in terms of graphics, functionality, and game-play, they are all better (this could be seen as opinion, but still).

 

[cucco002]

I believe it it that easy.
OP, sorry if it sounded harsh, I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything, Im just saying how I think it is :D

Do not worry, that is why I said "kind of harsh" ;) , but not really, no problem :)

What are you looking for in a game exactly?

If you want the feel of playing an old game with one of the longest story, go with Crystal. I foyu like the story, but not the graphics, go with Soulsilver. I googled, so apparently Liquid Crystal is Crystal with 3rd gen graphics. I would go with Soulsilver if graphics bug you. Go with Crystal cos originals are always better, remakes can be "better", but they are not originals. Idk how to explain.

Anyway, definitely play both, and if I were you, I'd start with original :D

I understand what you say, and I already expressed that its the reason I was not sure to go for the unofficial remake.

When I was young I played Pokémon Blue and I loved it, and I wanted to play this game, it was natural, I guess, and I thought it would be fun to play it even after all this years, and I bet it is

I wont feel satisfied if I don't play the original before the so called remake, or so I think, thats why I am going to play them in that order, I wont play the second immediately after the first one, but I will.

To both Seven and Peitharchia: as for why I wont go for HeartGold or SoulSilver, at the moment I don't have any means to play them :P , that's why

 

[Varion Bluefire]

I'd pick the original crystal.
No offence to LaZ, who made LC, but it includes too many new things that weren't or aren't realted to the original story.
Like Suicune flooding Johto.
Time Travel
The douchébagier extra rival.

Etc, etc.

 

[Pokehoofian10]

Eeveelutions

Ok so I've been playing Pokemon Crystal, and I have two Eevees. (I don't even know if that's correct) And I want to evolve them. I know what I need to do, but I don't know how. Like I know to get a Vaporeon you need to use a water stone. Jolteon = Thunder Stone. Flareon = Fire Stone. Espeon = High friendship and daytime. Umbreon = High friendship and nighttime. If they had the other ones I'd get Leafeon. But sadly in Crystal they don't. :( And I wanted to have as many plant Pokemon as possible. Anywho, if you know how to do any of this stuff let me know! :3 Thanks!

 

[Rosehip]

Well, you can get the evolutionary stones from Bill's grandfather. He's all the way northeast of Cerulean City. For happiness, just spam using the items like Carbos, Calcium, etc, and then level it up when you think it has a high enough happiness. Or, just battle with it a lot until its happiness goes up, then level it up. Be sure to save before you level it up via Rare Candy though, just in case it doesn't work.

edit: it happens that in Crystal, you can get the 3 evolutionary stones from trainers. Schoolboy Alan on Route 36 gives you the Fire Stone, Fisherman Tully on Route 42 gives you the Water Stone, and Lass Dana gives you the Thunderstone. She's on Route 38. The best thing is they're all Johto routes, so no need to play along with just an Eevee.

 

[Rosehip]

I'd go for Crystal. Put simply, it's the original game. You don't get anything that differs from the original story, which is what I like about playing the base games. It's more of a surreal experience if you're playing the original games rather than a ROM hack.

 

[Pokehoofian10]

Thanks! Now I can get my Eevees to evolve! :D Hooray!


Edit: Umm... are you absolutely positive that the fisherman is at Route 42? I've walked around several times and no one is there.

 

[Lusus]

There is a fisherman in Route 42 on the right side next to water.

You need him registered in PokeGear for him to give you the Water Stone. Not sure if he calls you for Water Stone or if you have to beat him in a rematch first.

 

[cucco002]

I'd go for Crystal. Put simply, it's the original game. You don't get anything that differs from the original story, which is what I like about playing the base games. It's more of a surreal experience if you're playing the original games rather than a ROM hack.

I can agree with that too

 

[Sonata]

Go for both. The original is good and so is Liquid Crystal.

 

[Dragon_Trainer_]

See, I'll list stuff out for you..........

Firstly, the most important thing, Graphics. In this aspect Pokemon Liquid Crystal works better as it is based off the Fire Red ROM which had very awesome graphics and was originally made for GBA systems. The Original Pokemon Crystal was made for GBC systems and it lacks in the graphical aspects.

Secondly, the gameplay. Pokemon Crystal has the original storyline and you can easily quit it whenever you like but you'll still feel as if you've had the experience. But if you play Pokemon Liquid Crystal, you'll be facing a Huge and New Storyline which blends very intelligently into the original storyline. Even though it is very good, it is not what you'd have thought of the original one. It spans as far as the Orange Islands.

Thirdly, the Pokemon. Pokemon Liquid Crystal has additional Pokemon going till the 356 maybe. I haven't as yet played it completely so I don't know about their unlocking time and all.

Lastly, as per your usage. You only wish to get an experience of the Generation and not exactly complete the game. Due to this fact, I'll recommend that you do not go as far to patch Liquid Crystal and all that stuff, just go and play the Original Pokemon Crystal.

 

[Monolith_the2nd]

A question to Rollout

I have given my Golem an Hard Stone, he knows Defense Curl and Rollout. When I use Defense Curl first the Rollout damage increases by 100%, so 60.
My question is: Does the STAB-bonus give the Rollout-damage another 30 damage, or just the normal 15 bonus damage? And does the Hard Stone increase the damage of Defense Curled Rollout by the 10% of the original 30 damage, 3 points, or by the 10% of the doubled damage of 60, 6 bonus damage?
Or do I have in the end a total damage of 99, because Defense Curl + Rollout = 30*2 = 60 + STAB-Bonus = 60*1,5 = 90 + Hard Stone Bonus = 90 + 10% = 99?

I'm sorry, if I asked this question too complicated, I have problems in asking questions in English.

 

[Rosehip]

If my maths isn't horrible (and it probably is, might edit this post with a double check later), then the move's base power + Defense Curl power doubling + STAB + Hard Stone will equate to 108 base power.

Rollout with the STAB bonus becomes 45, so yeah, the extra 15, while Rollout with the Hard Stone alone is 36.

The Hard Stone increases damage to the base power move, if I recall correctly. Hope this helped~!

edit: okay it seems my calculations are correct to that 108. Just double checked.

 

[alternateshadow300]

I found my old Silver Version, but...

I've had this game for a loooooooooooong time. A year after they released in America. However I lost it a few years after I'd gotten it (2004) and it went missing for... About 9 years. 9 years it's been lost. I just found it last year (April 2013) and I got so excited, and even better is that I'd gotten a GameBoy Color for Christmas in 2011, so I was thinking I could re-experience the nostalgic feel of playing Silver on a GBC. I was disappointed though because the game is extremely difficult to get working now, and when it does load, it freezes really early into the game. I've been able to save a few times, and pick a Pokémon twice, but once it freezes, everything is erased. Oh, everything was erased when I found it but honestly I was expecting that. I noticed that something is loose inside because when I pick it up, I can feel something moving around. I think something might be wrong inside or something but I don't know. Is there a way I can fix this or is it forever broken?