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Metal Generation Hacks

Melash

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    Just going into the Hack's Showcases is proof of this, but it seems that hacking has moved into just advanced generation games. I can only think of a few GB(C) hacks that are still being made. Has the hacking world completely moved on, or what?

    So what I'm wondering is this: Who really still appreciates the Metal Generation hacks? Maybe it's just be, but....
     
    There's been a huge boost in GBC Pokemon projects. The number of hacks is huge compared to what you would find in, say, 2006.

    It's also important to note that the world of ROM hacking is far from limited to the Pokemon games. Super Mario World is probably hacked even more than the GBA Pokemon games combined.
     
    IIMarckus said:
    It's also important to note that the world of ROM hacking is far from limited to the Pokemon games.
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    Yeah, you're right, thats why you find some hackers moving on to other games like Legend Of Zelda. For myself, I'm trying to hack Harvest Moon in a greater aspect :).

    Anyway, ROM Hacking in terms of Pokemon have begin evolved also from Advance Generation to D/P and a release of a Map editor will make that even fast.
     
    Well, most people like the GBA graphics. And it's true! GBA graphics are awesome and graphics are pretty important in customer appeal.

    BUT!

    The people such as this guy:
    loved the game but im just not used to the graphics
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    are, as Coolboyman simply said:
    CBM said:
    Just epic fail.
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    Thank you.

    Possibly the best Pokemon hacker on PokeCommunity hacking GBC proves that it definitely isn't dead. There's no real reason that GBA is better, except that they're normally bigger. In terms of gameplay and features Gold is probably better than Fire Red.

    As Zodiac said, Pokemon hacks are going to move onto DP soon, but I reckon DP is like GSC. Horrendous graphics but so many features it's good to hack.
     
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    This has been debated over quite enough hasn't it? To be completely frank I am sick of it.

    The biggest problem here is crappy GBA hacks that have little to no hacking done being more popular than GBC hacks right? I'm not just speaking to GBC hackers when I say this but if the sole reason you are hacking is to gain popularity do something else. Do not moan or whine about it and do not post your crappy generic hacks here.

    Who the hell cares if a GBA hack gets 20 replies from people who have just registered an account? I would trade in all those noobish replies on my hacks thread for one single reply from someone who's opinion actually matters to me, someone who I respect.

    I used to get really annoyed if I posted an update and got zero replies but now I don't even remember why. After I finish my hack what then? Will people remember me forever because of my hack? No, of course not, I'd be lucky if they remembered my username a month after playing it. Once my hack is done the best I can hope for is a couple thousand people playing through it once, getting a few replies in my thread and then its over. I don't hold any misconceptions that people will remember it 10 years from now.

    People should also pay more attention to hacks that are innovative. Hacks that thrive on the limitations that the different platforms have and use it to their advantage to create something no one has done before.

    If all you care about is popularity go make a 493 D/P/Pt rom edit with a new E4.
     
    dshayabusa said:
    This has been debated over quite enough hasn't it? To be completely frank I am sick of it.

    The biggest problem here is crappy GBA hacks that have little to no hacking done being more popular than GBC hacks right? I'm not just speaking to GBC hackers when I say this but if the sole reason you are hacking is to gain popularity do something else. Do not moan or whine about it and do not post your crappy generic hacks here.

    Who the hell cares if a GBA hack gets 20 replies from people who have just registered an account? I would trade in all those noobish replies on my hacks thread for one single reply from someone who's opinion actually matters to me, someone who I respect.

    I used to get really annoyed if I posted an update and got zero replies but now I don't even remember why. After I finish my hack what then? Will people remember me forever because of my hack? No, of course not, I'd be lucky if they remembered my username a month after playing it. Once my hack is done the best I can hope for is a couple thousand people playing through it once, getting a few replies in my thread and then its over. I don't hold any misconceptions that people will remember it 10 years from now.

    People should also pay more attention to hacks that are innovative. Hacks that thrive on the limitations that the different platforms have and use it to their advantage to create something no one has done before.

    If all you care about is popularity go make a 493 D/P/Pt rom edit with a new E4.
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    If your trying to say that hacking (in this community) has become a fad, then you are right. It's not the way it used to be. There's only a couple of REAL hackers here. You are one of them. Now ROM hacking is just a fad. It's not from the heart anymore; most of the people here just do it for fun, or just do a little bit then give up. It's sad, really.

    So a note too all your fakes out there. You're definitely not gaining anything except a bad reputation as class-a n00b. >:
     
    Melash said:
    Just going into the Hack's Showcases is proof of this, but it seems that hacking has moved into just advanced generation games. I can only think of a few GB(C) hacks that are still being made. Has the hacking world completely moved on, or what?

    So what I'm wondering is this: Who really still appreciates the Metal Generation hacks? Maybe it's just be, but....
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    The Metal Generation is probably my favourite, Crystal was the first PKMN game I even owned. I think with any series of stuff, provided it starts off good in my opinion, tends to start going OTT, around in circles and becomes really crappy. But then again some peoples first experience might be with the newer games which is a good enough excuse, but some people just hack all the newest stuff, trying to be up to date.

    Dark Lakitu said:
    As Zodiac said, Pokemon hacks are going to move onto DP soon, but I reckon DP is like GSC. Horrendous graphics but so many features it's good to hack.
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    I think GSC has pretty good GFX, whether you consider the hardware limitations or not. I think DPP is just horrendous all round. Think how long it takes to make a decent hack as it is now with any PKMN 1-3 game, making a major DPP hack will take most of your life.
     
    Definately I still appreciate old school hacks, it sets apart the n00bs from the proper hackers, after all, there aren't as many really poor GBC hacks as GBA. Part of the problem is how easy it is for people to hack with all the programs. (I know I'm partly to blame :D)

    I definately hope that people carry on hacking GBC games, even the old GB ones. I wonder if Violet is still being worked on?
     
    Dark Likitu said:
    As Zodiac said, Pokemon hacks are going to move onto DP soon, but I reckon DP is like GSC. Horrendous graphics but so many features it's good to hack.
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    Yes, I agree. The D/P tiles look a bit unnatural especially when used on GBA games.

    CoN~ said:
    The ONLY thing that GSC has over RSE is what? The two regions and the day night system?
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    Well, there is day night system for Emerald, and you'll see it soon for R/S and FR/LG. I guess, what I could say is a great hack will always be a great hack and this depends on the hacker's interest and hardwork on the hack - the features or cool stuff he puts ;)
     
    All right, I guess that people really still do appreciate the GBC and GB hacks. And also, most of the GBA hacks aren't that great. Not to be rude to anyone out there, but there are some pretty good ones also.

    I just hope that GBC hacking will still remain popular, even after more and more generations come out.
     
    Hell yeah! Look, the most popular ones are normally the EASIEST. GBA has far more tools, extremely good script editors and the like. Sure, Score_under's making a GBC SE but...yeah.
    DP isn't hacked much because there aren't many tools. Simple.
    Only the pro people hack harder stuff, like CBM.
     
    GB hacks actually show skill, noobz don't understand how much more effort a GB/GBC hack is. GBA hacks get too much credit. ok fairenought there are more tools, but without the same amount of tools Coolboyman made Prism. To be honest he is probably the best hacker here, but even he doesn't get the credit he deserves, I think it's disrespectful.
    that someone thing we used play from the olden days, get's thrown out like it's nothing, metal games and GBC hacking is much more interesting and amazing, to say the least.
     
    I agree with most that's been said before me.

    Many people don't understand that it takes much more effort to hack GSC than it does 3rd Gen. Personally, I hack for pleasure, and thus I don't hack GSC, given that I would have to spend much more time (And it would probably still come out like crap).
    I (like the posters before me) agree that CBM is probably one of the greatest hackers, and demonstrated the most skill. However, that doesn't mean that all 3rd Gen hackers have no talent, nor that all GSC hackers have talent, it just means that hacking 3rd Gen has become so easy, it results in many ridiculous, priceless hacks. That ISN'T a compliment.
     
    Well, I think Metal generation hacking has been about this active for the last year and a bit (as I've been there for about that). I don't think it ever entirely move on. Actually, if it DOES move on, I will be more motivated to make a classic hack.

    I have been working on a GSC hack for quite some time now, actually.

    Also, as you can see by the "Twilight Hacking Forum" that I made for Black_Phantom, it can be potentially active.
     
    CoN~ said:
    The two regions
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    Well, actually, FR and LG make up for that... the islands... so if you want to say... like make a hack were you go to a new region and visit johto or something you can just edit FR/LG's kanto map and the island maps. (yes, I said maps... as in plural) Really if I wanted to, I can add all 4 regions (Kanto = Kanto, Johto = Islands 1-3, Hoenn = Islands 4-5, Sinnoh = Islands 6-7) Just to make my point =D ...
     
    I'm the type who is "moved" by something that makes the game unique, being graphics, story, events, some feature, anything counts! Who cares about which generation it belongs? People who only check one kind of generation need to expand themselves. But... Not like we can force them.

    Just my opinion, but there's a lot of gamers out there and who knows what each of them want? Some will always be interested in what you do, while others not, it's a fact. We'll fine as long as we continue to just hack for the fun (and some for the challenge) of doing your own game.
     
    swampert22 said:
    I wonder if Violet is still being worked on?
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    Yes, Violet is still being worked on. I hear that it's getting close to completion, as I've talked to Cartmic on MSN several times before. You would think that it's getting close, as 6 years is quite long.
     
    You're right. It seemed to be that everyone was moving into Advanced Generation, but it seems that it doesn't matter more or less how good the graphics are, more or less how good the game is itself.
     
    ~ The Womanizer ~ said:
    If your trying to say that hacking (in this community) has become a fad, then you are right. It's not the way it used to be. There's only a couple of REAL hackers here. You are one of them. Now ROM hacking is just a fad. It's not from the heart anymore; most of the people here just do it for fun, or just do a little bit then give up. It's sad, really.

    So a note too all your fakes out there. You're definitely not gaining anything except a bad reputation as class-a n00b. >:
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    So you are saying that anyone who isn't great at rom hacking and can't make a super innovative game are fakes?
    And their is absolutely nothing wrong with hacking for fun, I mean if it wasn't fun then what is the point of doing it?
    I don't know if it is just me but you came across as wicked rude right there.
    And who are you to say who is and isn't a real hacker!
    >:
    I'm not saying in anyway that it is great that all these hacks that are useless are being made but I am saying that it is Ok to hack just for fun.
     
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