Moveset Help & Other Questions

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Sand Veil is banned under Smogon's evasion clause as of Gen V.
 
After having my zangoose smeared several times by a lopunny, I was wondering what a good nature, ability and evs for one might be, also a moveset if possible.
 
p lazy to get a moveset, but just fyi zangoose doesnt win vs mega lopunny lol. 136 attack with se stab high jump kick = gg. 73/60 defenses on top of that lol

if you want a competitive moveset for zangoose, try something like toxic orb with toxic boost and facade (filler filler coverage) with jolly 252 atk 4 def 252 speed...

idk ;-;
 
Keeper27 said:
After having my zangoose smeared several times by a lopunny, I was wondering what a good nature, ability and evs for one might be, also a moveset if possible.
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revere said:
p lazy to get a moveset, but just fyi zangoose doesnt win vs mega lopunny lol. 136 attack with se stab high jump kick = gg. 73/60 defenses on top of that lol

if you want a competitive moveset for zangoose, try something like toxic orb with toxic boost and facade (filler filler coverage) with jolly 252 atk 4 def 252 speed...

idk ;-;
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To add to what Revere said, Mega Lopunny outspeeds Zangoose. The former's Speed is 135, while the latter's is 90, which isn't bad, but isn't good either. However, Zangoose can pick off a weakened Mega Lopunny with Quick Attack.

Anyway, here's the full Zangoose set:
-Facade
-Close Combat
-Knock Off
-Quick Attack/Swords Dance
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Toxic Orb
Ability: Toxic Boost
 
Keeper27 said:
I phrased my question poorly, I meant for a lopunny, not Zangoose
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Well, here are some Mega Lopunny sets you should try out. Both sets have absolutely perfect coverage with Mega Lopunny's STABs alone; the only coverage move you should really be bothering with is Ice Punch for Gliscor and Therian Landorus. Take note that Limber is the preferred pre-Mega ability on Lopunny:
-Fake Out
-Return
-High Jump Kick
-Ice Punch/Healing Wish
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Lopunnite
Ability: Limber

or
-Substitute
-Return
-High Jump Kick
-Ice Punch/Power-Up Punch/Encore/Baton Pass
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Lopunnite
Ability: Limber
 
I'm planning to add a Bouffalant to my mixed tier and was wondering if giving it this EV spread would help it more than the one suggested elsewhere:
- 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Or possibly:
- 172 HP / 252 Atk / 42 Def / 42 SDef

Original spread:
- 172 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spe

It's just that with base 55 speed, I don't think it will out speed anything. (well, it will in some cases but...)
 
Death said:
I'm planning to add a Bouffalant to my mixed tier and was wondering if giving it this EV spread would help it more than the one suggested elsewhere:
- 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Or possibly:
- 172 HP / 252 Atk / 42 Def / 42 SDef

Original spread:
- 172 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spe

It's just that with base 55 speed, I don't think it will out speed anything. (well, it will in some cases but...)
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Don't worry about outspeeding "anything", Death. It's fine. The only true thing you should be outspeeding are slower tanks that would otherwise wall this guy to oblivion (e.g. Alomomola, Slowking, Aromatisse, etc). Secondly, do NOT invest in defenses minimally. You're wasting the potential you have to maximize into your Attack, HP, and in some cases, Speed. Your original spread seems perfectly fine, if paired with Sap Sipper/Soundproof and with a Substitue set or a Choice Band set. Your first possible proposition is okay in SOME instances, but you'd have to state what it would be used for. Don't try to make a Pokemon into something it's not, as Bouffalant is a slow but extremely steady wallbreaker that will get the job done when you need him too. Hope this helps :)
 
Scrafty @ Lum Berry
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Drain Punch
- Crunch
- Poison Jab

So I used to own a Scrafty with the above move set, I'm currently considering recreating it in ORAS and am wondering if the moves listed above are still okay, or if I should consider something like:
- Dragon Dance
- Drain Punch
- Knock Off
- Zen Headbutt/Iron Head/Poison Jab
 
Death said:
Scrafty @ Lum Berry
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Drain Punch
- Crunch
- Poison Jab

So I used to own a Scrafty with the above move set, I'm currently considering recreating it in ORAS and am wondering if the moves listed above are still okay, or if I should consider something like:
- Dragon Dance
- Drain Punch
- Knock Off
- Zen Headbutt/Iron Head/Poison Jab
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Thanks to OR/AS move tutors, the second set is more accessible to cartridge users. Knock Off is better than Crunch for removing non-Mega Stone items. Iron Head is also preferred over Poison Jab so you don't get walled by the occasional Toxicroak.
 
PlatinumDude said:
The other good Tailwind user is Mega Charizard X:
-Swords Dance
-Tailwind
-Flare Blitz
-Outrage
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 40 HP/252 Atk/216 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
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The thing is.. I'm using Mega-Heracross, I think that pairing him with a Tailwind user is a good idea.
I'm using Galvantula for sticky web but meh, tailwind might be better. Correct me if i'm wrong..
 
ChrisJavier said:
The thing is.. I'm using Mega-Heracross, I think that pairing him with a Tailwind user is a good idea.
I'm using Galvantula for sticky web but meh, tailwind might be better. Correct me if i'm wrong..
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You could use Tornadus as a Tailwind setter, then:
-Tailwind
-Hurricane
-Superpower/Focus Blast
-Taunt/Knock Off
Nature: Naive/Timid
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
 
What's the best set for my new Sylveon that I'm gonna breed now that ORAS move tutors can give it Hyper Voice?
Sylveon @ _____
Nature: ____ EVs: ____
IVs: Perfect but -Attack
Ability: Pixilate
-Hyper Voice
-_____
-_____
-_____
 
GreenFlame said:
What's the best set for my new Sylveon that I'm gonna breed now that ORAS move tutors can give it Hyper Voice?
Sylveon @ _____
Nature: ____ EVs: ____
IVs: Perfect but -Attack
Ability: Pixilate
-Hyper Voice
-_____
-_____
-_____
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Here are a couple of sets for you to decide:
-Wish
-Protect
-Hyper Voice
-Heal Bell
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/40 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pixilate

or
-Hyper Voice
-Psyshock
-Shadow Ball
-Baton Pass/Hidden Power (Fire/Ground)
Nature: Modest
EVs: 244 HP/252 SAtk/12 Spe
Item: Choice Specs
Ability: Pixilate
 
GreenFlame said:
I need a set for Mega Glalie for ORAS, preferably something that's not too hard to get.
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Though Double-Edge is an option for Mega Glalie, this needs one transferred all the way from Gen III, as it can only learn it there. Return is a more convenient alternative:
-Return
-Earthquake
-Explosion
-Ice Shard/Freeze-Dry
Nature: Jolly/Adamant/Naive/Naughty
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Glalitite
Ability: Inner Focus
 
PlatinumDude said:
Here are a couple of sets for you to decide:
-Hyper Voice
-Psyshock
-Shadow Ball
-Baton Pass/Hidden Power (Fire/Ground)
Nature: Modest
EVs: 244 HP/252 SAtk/12 Spe
Item: Choice Specs
Ability: Pixilate
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I like this one and I finally got my Eevee (I probably should have asked this BEFORE breeding), but what is the point of Baton Pass on it? My Eevee's Hidden Power type is Dragon (not optimal), so it needs to be a different move and I don't see the use of Baton Pass.
 
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