Featured: New Alola forms

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Alolan Vileplume and/or Bellossom so we might finally get a Grass/Fire Pokemon. Bellossom fits Alola perfectly so needs an Alola form.

The fact that it fits Alola perfectly might actually make it less likely to have an Alola form. Only thing I can see them do it make Bellossom taller (it is pretty small) and maybe add some leaves to their hands.

 

[AtecainCorp.]

In my opinion. I look so close to new Alolan legends formes. And... I found sorta connection between KYUREM formes and That formes. What I mean. I'm 90% sure that Necrozma formes can work dirrectly like Kyurem Formes. Why?
1. Mostly bodyparts are from oryginal Pokemon.
2. Corrless Apperance is not to be random in my opinion. DNA LINKER PIN may be used on the Necrozma.
3. What if we can seen GLADION and Sun/moon hero as two new "Heroes of regiion" Lusamine can act like Ghetsis

 

[shadowmoon522]

alolan starters

 

[Ducolamia]

I would love to see other Gen 1 and 2 Alola forms preferably. I would love to see Alolan Sunflora, Miltank, Dunsparse, or maybe even Octillery!

 

[Eruption]

Here is my way of trying to guess what the new Alolan forms could be, based on the type of rules I think Game Freak would set themselves.

The first rule is that they will only select Johto pok?mon.

Spoiler:

This first available pool of pok?mon is taken from all of the species that originate from Johto that aren't already in the Alolan dex. This is operating under the presumption that the pok?mon already in the Alolan dex have no need to adapt to the environment and therefore don't need an Alolan form. I also removed starters and legendaries as they seem unlikely to get Alolan forms.

In this stage, I eliminate all those who evolve into or from a pok?mon from another generation (e) and all those who have a mega evolution (m).

- Sentret , Furret // Hoothoot , Noctowl // Togepi (e), Togetic (e)
- Natu , Xatu // Mareep , Flaaffy , Ampharos(m) // Bellossom (e)
- Marill , Azumarill(e) // Hoppip , Skiploom , Jumpluff // Aipom (e)]
- Sunkern , Sunflora // Yanma (e) // Wooper , Quagsire
- Unown // Wobbuffet(e) // Girafarig
- Pineco , Forretress / Dunsparce // Gligar (e)
- Steelix (e, m) // Qwilfish // Shuckle
- Heracross (m) // Teddiursa , Ursaring // Slugma , Magcarco
- Swinub (e) , Piloswine (e) // Remoraid , Octillery // Mantine (e)
- Houndour (m) , Houndoom (m) // Kingdra (e) // Phanpy , Donphan
- Stantler // Tyrogue (e) , Hitmontop (e) // Smoochum (e)
- Larvitar , Pupitar , Tyranitar (m)

This leaves you with this as a potential pool of 29 pok?mon for new alolan forms.

Spoiler:

Logically, Game Freak will cut the number down to either around the same amount of the original Alolan forms (18) or perhaps even fewer because fewer pok?mon originate in Johto.

To cut down to this number, I've tried to consider a variety of factors including the pok?mon's marketability, competitive usability (and competitive potential with a few changes) and finally I searched 'Alolan ____' into google images to see if any good concept art was available, if it wasn't then logically that pok?mon is either difficult to redesign or overlooked so much that there is little reason to make an alolan form for it.

- Sentret , Furret (Having already seen Rattata and Raticate receive Alolan forms, this seems like a logical inclusion. If GF is being lazy they can just make them dark like Rattata & Meowth, but hopefully a better idea would emerge)

- Hoothoot , Noctowl (I think there's a fair bit of potential here. A lot of reasonably good concept art seems to position Noctowl as an Ice type, I think it would be good as a pok?mon at Mount Lanakila. Noctowl is also well remembered as one of Ash's pok?mon from the anim? which swings in its favour. Perhaps Hoothoot could retain its regular form, but evolve into the Ice-type Noctowl when levelled at Mount Lanakila)

- Natu , Xatu (There is some fairly cool art on Google Images were Natu & Xatu look like disciples of Tapu Koko, perhaps four different Alolan forms for each Tapu would be cool.)

- Hoppip , Skiploom , Jumpluff (I think like quite a few pok?mon here, this evolution line is often forgotten about. There is some reasonably good concept art of a fire-type version of Hoppip & Jumpluff, but I don't think GF would go for this one.)

- Sunkern , Sunflora (This would probably be a difficult redesign, there is an issue in that sunflowers seem well adapted for Hawaii. The marketability of these pok?mon is also suspect, whilst any competitive viability would require a huge stat upgrade.)

- Wooper , Quagsire (I love these pok?mon and would love to see them given a bit of exposure, but fairly similar pok?mon in Barboach & Whiscash are already present in Alola. Perhaps Quagsire would not need to adapt.)

- Unown (I think GF would prefer to keep Unown as novelty pok?mon with little competitive viability, also a difficult redesign)

- Girafarig (There aren't many concepts for this available. It might be cool to see a Moon-exclusive were the dark back half consumes the front and it becomes a dark-type, but I would imagine Girafarig will get overlooked.)

- Pineco , Forretress (These two have only ever been in the Johto dex. You can either take that two ways - 1) They're overdue an inclusion in a new game. 2) GF has no interest in utilising these pok?mon. I'm tempted to go with the latter, but I wouldn't mind seeing them become electric similar to Geodude, Graveler & Golem.)

- Dunsparce (No chance.)

- Qwilfish (Probably also no chance, but I do like Qwilfish so that is a shame.)

- Shuckle (I love that Coconut Shuckle posted earlier in the thread. I do think Shuckle is one of the least likely of my inclusions to make it, but whatever it has a reasonable chance. It certainly isn't as horribly unpopular as Dunsparce or Qwilfish.)

- Teddiursa , Ursaring (These are the type of pok?mon Alolan forms should be used to revolutionise, regular normal types based on real-life creatures. Dark type makes sense following the original game, but if they could turn Teddiursa into an even cuter Fairy type that would be cool.)

- Slugma , Magcarco (There is some cool concept art of Desert Slugma, so perhaps a ground type of that in Haina desert would be cool. These two aren't particularly popular, but I feel like pok?mon of similar popularity (Numel, Camerupt) have been given special treatment in the past.)

- Remoraid , Octillery (I would like to see an Octillery which, in contrast to Corsola, blends in with the Alolan sea predator Toxapex and changes it colours to match it. A change of typing to water/poision and perhaps changing the effect of Octazooka to have a chance of inflicting poision when used by an Alolan form Octillery would be cool. The only issue with this is Remoraid's relationship with Mantine, so I'd be tempted to exclude it, but not Octillery.)

- Phanpy , Donphan (I'm not exactly sure how this line would adapt, but I think Phanpy and Donphan have great potential. Phanpy especially as a cute pok?mon. I'm sure the more imaginative folk at GF can work on it.)

- Stantler (Similar to Pineco, this pok?mon never makes it to foreign regional dex. I don't see that changing soon and Sawsbuck has already removed a lot of its potential options.)

tl;dr So following that logic, my predictions would be Sentret, Furret, Noctowl, Natu, Xatu, Shuckle, Teddiursa, Ursaring, Slugma, Magcargo, Octillery, Phanpy, Donphan. 13 Alolan forms sounds about right for a generation with fewer pok?mon.

The only problem with all of this is none of those pok?mon will bring the marketing hype of Alolan Raichu, for example. For that reason, I'd be tempted to say either no more alolan forms or GF will have no strict rules and give them out to all sorts of pok?mon.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Here is my way of trying to guess what the new Alolan forms could be, based on the type of rules I think Game Freak would set themselves.

The first rule is that they will only select Johto pok?mon.

Spoiler:

This first available pool of pok?mon is taken from all of the species that originate from Johto that aren't already in the Alolan dex. This is operating under the presumption that the pok?mon already in the Alolan dex have no need to adapt to the environment and therefore don't need an Alolan form. I also removed starters and legendaries as they seem unlikely to get Alolan forms.

In this stage, I eliminate all those who evolve into or from a pok?mon from another generation (e) and all those who have a mega evolution (m).

- Sentret , Furret // Hoothoot , Noctowl // Togepi (e), Togetic (e)
- Natu , Xatu // Mareep , Flaaffy , Ampharos(m) // Bellossom (e)
- Marill , Azumarill(e) // Hoppip , Skiploom , Jumpluff // Aipom (e)]
- Sunkern , Sunflora // Yanma (e) // Wooper , Quagsire
- Unown // Wobbuffet(e) // Girafarig
- Pineco , Forretress / Dunsparce // Gligar (e)
- Steelix (e, m) // Qwilfish // Shuckle
- Heracross (m) // Teddiursa , Ursaring // Slugma , Magcarco
- Swinub (e) , Piloswine (e) // Remoraid , Octillery // Mantine (e)
- Houndour (m) , Houndoom (m) // Kingdra (e) // Phanpy , Donphan
- Stantler // Tyrogue (e) , Hitmontop (e) // Smoochum (e)
- Larvitar , Pupitar , Tyranitar (m)

This leaves you with this as a potential pool of 29 pok?mon for new alolan forms.

Spoiler:

Logically, Game Freak will cut the number down to either around the same amount of the original Alolan forms (18) or perhaps even fewer because fewer pok?mon originate in Johto.

To cut down to this number, I've tried to consider a variety of factors including the pok?mon's marketability, competitive usability (and competitive potential with a few changes) and finally I searched 'Alolan ____' into google images to see if any good concept art was available, if it wasn't then logically that pok?mon is either difficult to redesign or overlooked so much that there is little reason to make an alolan form for it.

- Sentret , Furret (Having already seen Rattata and Raticate receive Alolan forms, this seems like a logical inclusion. If GF is being lazy they can just make them dark like Rattata & Meowth, but hopefully a better idea would emerge)

- Hoothoot , Noctowl (I think there's a fair bit of potential here. A lot of reasonably good concept art seems to position Noctowl as an Ice type, I think it would be good as a pok?mon at Mount Lanakila. Noctowl is also well remembered as one of Ash's pok?mon from the anim? which swings in its favour. Perhaps Hoothoot could retain its regular form, but evolve into the Ice-type Noctowl when levelled at Mount Lanakila)

- Natu , Xatu (There is some fairly cool art on Google Images were Natu & Xatu look like disciples of Tapu Koko, perhaps four different Alolan forms for each Tapu would be cool.)

- Hoppip , Skiploom , Jumpluff (I think like quite a few pok?mon here, this evolution line is often forgotten about. There is some reasonably good concept art of a fire-type version of Hoppip & Jumpluff, but I don't think GF would go for this one.)

- Sunkern , Sunflora (This would probably be a difficult redesign, there is an issue in that sunflowers seem well adapted for Hawaii. The marketability of these pok?mon is also suspect, whilst any competitive viability would require a huge stat upgrade.)

- Wooper , Quagsire (I love these pok?mon and would love to see them given a bit of exposure, but fairly similar pok?mon in Barboach & Whiscash are already present in Alola. Perhaps Quagsire would not need to adapt.)

- Unown (I think GF would prefer to keep Unown as novelty pok?mon with little competitive viability, also a difficult redesign)

- Girafarig (There aren't many concepts for this available. It might be cool to see a Moon-exclusive were the dark back half consumes the front and it becomes a dark-type, but I would imagine Girafarig will get overlooked.)

- Pineco , Forretress (These two have only ever been in the Johto dex. You can either take that two ways - 1) They're overdue an inclusion in a new game. 2) GF has no interest in utilising these pok?mon. I'm tempted to go with the latter, but I wouldn't mind seeing them become electric similar to Geodude, Graveler & Golem.)

- Dunsparce (No chance.)

- Qwilfish (Probably also no chance, but I do like Qwilfish so that is a shame.)

- Shuckle (I love that Coconut Shuckle posted earlier in the thread. I do think Shuckle is one of the least likely of my inclusions to make it, but whatever it has a reasonable chance. It certainly isn't as horribly unpopular as Dunsparce or Qwilfish.)

- Teddiursa , Ursaring (These are the type of pok?mon Alolan forms should be used to revolutionise, regular normal types based on real-life creatures. Dark type makes sense following the original game, but if they could turn Teddiursa into an even cuter Fairy type that would be cool.)

- Slugma , Magcarco (There is some cool concept art of Desert Slugma, so perhaps a ground type of that in Haina desert would be cool. These two aren't particularly popular, but I feel like pok?mon of similar popularity (Numel, Camerupt) have been given special treatment in the past.)

- Remoraid , Octillery (I would like to see an Octillery which, in contrast to Corsola, blends in with the Alolan sea predator Toxapex and changes it colours to match it. A change of typing to water/poision and perhaps changing the effect of Octazooka to have a chance of inflicting poision when used by an Alolan form Octillery would be cool. The only issue with this is Remoraid's relationship with Mantine, so I'd be tempted to exclude it, but not Octillery.)

- Phanpy , Donphan (I'm not exactly sure how this line would adapt, but I think Phanpy and Donphan have great potential. Phanpy especially as a cute pok?mon. I'm sure the more imaginative folk at GF can work on it.)

- Stantler (Similar to Pineco, this pok?mon never makes it to foreign regional dex. I don't see that changing soon and Sawsbuck has already removed a lot of its potential options.)

tl;dr So following that logic, my predictions would be Sentret, Furret, Noctowl, Natu, Xatu, Shuckle, Teddiursa, Ursaring, Slugma, Magcargo, Octillery, Phanpy, Donphan. 13 Alolan forms sounds about right for a generation with fewer pok?mon.

The only problem with all of this is none of those pok?mon will bring the marketing hype of Alolan Raichu, for example. For that reason, I'd be tempted to say either no more alolan forms or GF will have no strict rules and give them out to all sorts of pok?mon.

I can see Phanpy and Donphan being Water types or Ground/Water. Since real life elephants love to drink water.

 

[jombii]

ALolan johto startes maybe?

I'm hoping they extend the Alolan forms to non-Kanto pokemon. It seemed like a concept that is gone to waste due to "nostalgia goggles" people had for Gen I.

Here's hoping for my Alolan Crobat.

 

[jombii]

I'd much rather Johto starters get the megas they deserve, y'know? If Kanto and Hoenn starters can get megas, I'd like for the chain to continue with other starters, as well.

Well, they were reintroduced during Gen VI with an awful focus on Mega Evolution. I just think a nice change of pace can be great for gen II starters.

 

[FireSnow]

Gimme Alolan Arcanine, my heart was so set on that the first time around :(

 

[jombii]

Gimme Alolan Arcanine, my heart was so set on that the first time around :(

Oh yeah, I forgot that Water-type Alolan Arcanine was supposed to exist from the leaks.

 

[Zeiro]

I would like to see Alola formes from different regions, but as long as we get a decent amount of new ones I won't complain :D

I'm really interested to see if some of those leaks I remember seeing about Sun and Moon end up coming true in this game, such as water Arcanine.

 

[jombii]

I would like to see Alola formes from different regions, but as long as we get a decent amount of new ones I won't complain :D

I'm really interested to see if some of those leaks I remember seeing about Sun and Moon end up coming true in this game, such as water Arcanine.

let's not forget, fighting-type alakazam.

 

[L'Belle]

I would like to see an alola-form of Hariyama. Don't care how or what, I think it's a very underrated fighting type.

 

[Hikamaru]

let's not forget, fighting-type alakazam.

And I think Fighting/Flying Doduo line as well, since I remember that was one of the fake rumours.

 

[Flowerchild]

i was really down to get a water-type Arcanine the first time around so maybe second time will be the charm.

 

[VoltYellow]

I think that this time we may get the alolan forms of pokemon from other generations too!
or it may also happen that we get the new alolan forms for the kanto pokemon. Possibilities are of many things to happen but i would like to see alolan forms of pokemon form generations other than Kanto!!

 

[jombii]

I think that this time we may get the alolan forms of pokemon from other generations too!
or it may also happen that we get the new alolan forms for the kanto pokemon. Possibilities are of many things to happen but i would like to see alolan forms of pokemon form generations other than Kanto!!

Idk why GF did alolan forms exclusive to gen I pokemon anyway. Nostalgia? seemed like a good waste of concept.

 

[ShyRayq]

Since we're gonna have GS on the 3ds soon, I am in the camp that we might get Gen 2 Alolan Pokemon, which I am all for.

 

[Sean Flame]

Apparently we are getting Pokemon that we haven't seen before so I fully expect new Alola forms.

I am quite certain that there aren't going to be any new pokemon or formes, except that Solgacrozma/Lunacrozma, because if you look at what Masuda exactly said, the wording goes by "new Pokemon that didn't appear in Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon will appear too."

That being said, I think that this simply means that the Alola dex would be expanded in USUM.

 

[FireSnow]

Another cool Alola form would be Butterfree, as has been discussed in Battling and Teambuilding, with a bug/dark typing. Butterfree is one pokemon that truly deserves something/anything to help it regain relevance in-game and competitively