Suggestion: New Supporter Features & Infraction Suggestions

[FreakyLocz14]

I have two suggestions for new supporter features. These would really be for Tier 5 & 6 or just 6 in my opinion, but it's up to the staff to decide. I really think since one has to spend four times the T5 amount to get to T6, some more perks would be nice.

1) A "Quoted Me" feature
This feature would alert the user whenever one of their posts is quoted and replied to in a thread.

2) Colored usertitles for Supporters
Currently this is a staff only perk. This would pretty much allow users to have a customized usertitle and subtitle under their user name in threads.

I also have a suggestion on the infraction system. The goal of the system should be to allow users to learn from past mistakes. In order to further this goal, it would good for warning and infractions to be completely erased from a member's record granted they do not receive any new warnings or infractions in for that same or a similar offense 1 year after the particular warning or infraction has expired. The period can even be 2, 3, or more years. It seems to me that longtime members could be getting banned for hitting the 25 total infraction limit even though most of those happened a very long time ago. This probably wouldn't be a problem anytime soon, but I foresee it happening in the future.

 

[Regeneration]

I think I do recall these being suggested in the past. T.T

1. The 'Quote me' feature is something I feel all of us need to have, and I would support it. I find it pretty useful.

2. I think the coloured user title should be left for the staff only. Let them have something that others don't! D: And PC has a number of Tier 5 supporters, I think it would be really tedious if each one of them were to change their user title every now and then.

 

[Deleted member 143209]

Just gonna jump in and say both suggestions have been shot down in the past. The Quoted Me feature would add a lot of strain on the server, it would cause more DBE errors.

The usertitle feature has never been agreed upon with the number of threads put up about it. There's a general "no" feeling in the staff area for it to be implemented. So just inputting that rather than shouting my opinions on these, as I've done beforehand, since I'm sure the outcome will be much the same this time around. Hopefully we do make some more progress, however I'm sorry to burst your bubble.

As for the infraction system, PC staff would need to have some record of a member's past negative endeavors, and I don't see much point in erasing them. It would also be a severe pain to go back and delete them all for everyone who's been here a certain amount of time. There's no reason for them to be deleted at any rate because only staff members and the member themselves can see them, and well if they get enough red cards to reach 25, well then I don't think they'll have learned anything from getting previous ones and they would simply not benefit from having older infractions erased.

 

[bobandbill]

I disagree with the infraction thing as it shouldn't even be easy for someon to amass 25 infractions - that means they break it...well, 25 tims. Wheen someone breaks the rules that many times, when they aren't hard to follow in the first place... it seems a bit odd to me that one can go beyond an already high limit because they didn't break a particular type of rul for a while (meaning they could break other rules instead). =/

 

[Ho-Oh]

I have two suggestions for new supporter features. These would really be for Tier 5 & 6 or just 6 in my opinion, but it's up to the staff to decide. I really think since one has to spend four times the T5 amount to get to T6, some more perks would be nice.

Mervyn and Gav covered your other points, so I'll just be commenting on this and touching upon something else. Supporters have enough perks as it is - larger avatars than everyone else, blogs, background images for profiles, larger PM inbox, VIP forum, supporter email and other things that I'm probably forgetting. And tier 6 have like double the permissions of tier 5's. I'm still not sure why supporters continue asking for perks, because yes, you donated to PC, but with the perks you already have, that already kinda covers what you've donated. Plus you're meant to donate for the good of PC and not actually for the perks, so. Even so, I don't think getting even more perks would make people want to donate. Ever since the supporters got the current perks they have donations have risen. Early 2008, supporter perks = spike in donations. Now there's over 200 or something, yet before that there was probably only 20 or so. It's sad that it's happened that way, but it just is. And if supporters got more perks, then I'd just feel worse for the members who can't actually donate and are missing out on what everyone else is getting to "increase interest in donating". Too many perks seems unfair, so yeah.

...in conclusion, tier 5/6's have enough perks as it is.

Oh and the way members can learn from their mistakes is if they get an infraction for a certain offence, not to re-offend. :) And, the infraction is there to serve as a reminder regarding rules they shouldn't break in the future!

 

[FreakyLocz14]

I disagree with the infraction thing as it shouldn't even be easy for someon to amass 25 infractions - that means they break it...well, 25 tims. Wheen someone breaks the rules that many times, when they aren't hard to follow in the first place... it seems a bit odd to me that one can go beyond an already high limit because they didn't break a particular type of rul for a while (meaning they could break other rules instead). =/

I'm referring to spanning out their history over a long period of time. Like 5-10 years or more. And some of the rules are easy to break unintentionally due to them not being specifically described enough.

 

[Ho-Oh]

And some of the rules are easy to break unintentionally due to them not being specifically described enough.

PC's rules: Be on-topic, post 4 words + 35 characters, don't double post, don't revive threads, respect people, don't swear, don't advertise, don't post porn, don't post ROMs, don't question bans and don't create alts to evade bans. As for infractions, basically... don't ask for hacked pokemon, don't rate teams without knowledge, don't abuse autoplay, don't post short RPs, don't troll, don't stalk other members, don't steal content and don't post more than one reply in a NU/W thread that's not yours. Seems simple to me. :x

Honestly, the infractions/PC's rules are really simple, I'm not sure how one can see the issue (I don't entirely understand OC's infractions but the rest of PC's makes sense as far as I can see) and if the users have questions they can just ask the mods of the section.

For example, I know with B/W's rules, almost everything is about three lines long to explain the rules to members in detail. And I'd assume other mods are doing the same.

 

[bobandbill]

I know that's what you're referring too... but what's the point? =/ It would be potentially hard to keep track, and most members would not stay around for 5-10 years either, and the ones who do stay that long I imagine wouldn't have to worry about keeping their infraction count below 25 as well. And what rules are not 'specifically dscribed enough'? If people getting banned for hitting 25 infractions is a problem (which I kinda doubt it is or would be) then well-defined rules would be a better way to 'fix it', surely.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

PC's rules: Be on-topic, post 4 words + 35 characters, don't double post, don't revive threads, respect people, don't swear, don't advertise, don't post porn, don't post ROMs, don't question bans and don't create alts to evade bans. As for infractions, basically... don't ask for hacked pokemon, don't rate teams without knowledge, don't abuse autoplay, don't post short RPs, don't troll, don't stalk other members, don't steal content and don't post more than one reply in a NU/W thread that's not yours. Seems simple to me. :x

Honestly, the infractions/PC's rules are really simple, I'm not sure how one can see the issue (I don't entirely understand OC's infractions but the rest of PC's makes sense as far as I can see) and if the users have questions they can just ask the mods of the section.

For example, I know with B/W's rules, almost everything is about three lines long to explain the rules to members in detail. And I'd assume other mods are doing the same.

One vague one in the 4 and 25 characters word rule. What counts as a word? people post links to other websites often and some mods don't count those as words/characters.

 

[Platinum Lucario]

Something you need to understand. ;D

I have two suggestions for new supporter features. These would really be for Tier 5 & 6 or just 6 in my opinion, but it's up to the staff to decide. I really think since one has to spend four times the T5 amount to get to T6, some more perks would be nice.

1) A "Quoted Me" feature
This feature would alert the user whenever one of their posts is quoted and replied to in a thread.

2) Colored usertitles for Supporters
Currently this is a staff only perk. This would pretty much allow users to have a customized usertitle and subtitle under their user name in threads.

I also have a suggestion on the infraction system. The goal of the system should be to allow users to learn from past mistakes. In order to further this goal, it would good for warning and infractions to be completely erased from a member's record granted they do not receive any new warnings or infractions in for that same or a similar offense 1 year after the particular warning or infraction has expired. The period can even be 2, 3, or more years. It seems to me that longtime members could be getting banned for hitting the 25 total infraction limit even though most of those happened a very long time ago. This probably wouldn't be a problem anytime soon, but I foresee it happening in the future.

To make this clear... I'm just going to say all this:

1. The Quote Me feature was reject due to the fact that it would cause the server to crash. The server isn't very stable, y'know. D:

2. Why do alot of people keep asking about "Custom Usertitles" alot in the Community Questions & Feedback? It will never be implemented, would cause too much strain on the server, the admins would be filled up with toooooooooooo many requests to change usertitles, it won't be long before tier 6 becomes much bigger and the fact that we have got enough supporter features given as a thank you gift for donating to PC, all supporters donate out of their kindness, they do not donate just for the special features and nether should you! Also... wouldn't it be nice to also keep donating to help Steve get more dedicated servers? It surely would help PC such alot... and which could mean that we could get the removed features back. ;)

3. The infractions are given out to people who do the wong thing, people who get infractions usually learn from their mistake after they get one. But hey... I got an infraction back in 2008 for Copy and Pasting Welcomes in the NU/W forum, I learned from my rule breakage that I did, I know I over-reacted at first... but guess what? I have improved since then and now I read the rules carefully and I would know to never do it again. As for accumlating the total of 25 infractions for a permanent ban... it's there so that people who wait until their infraction has expired... to break the rule again and repeat it over and over again so they would avoid getting banned, that's why it's there for a reason. Anyone who gets an infraction... would be all like "oh no, I got an infraction, ok... I now know not to do it again". Some of the mods may be much nicer and warn you before hand, which most do. So yeah... everything is fine here at PC. ^^

 

[Nick]

2. Why do alot of people keep asking about "Custom Usertitles" alot in the Community Questions & Feedback? It will never be implemented, would cause too much strain on the server, the admins would be filled up with toooooooooooo many requests to change usertitles, it won't be long before tier 6 becomes much bigger and the fact that we have got enough supporter features given as a thank you gift for donating to PC, all supporters donate out of their kindness, they do not donate just for the special features and nether should you! Also... wouldn't it be nice to also keep donating to help Steve get more dedicated servers? It surely would help PC such alot... and which could mean that we could get the removed features back. ;)

Yeah, yeah, whatever.

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The colored usertitle seems to be something that you guys seem to want a lot. It gets brought up so many times, and with every thread, you have some staff that are okay with it and some who aren't. This has never been brought up for official voting in HQ, though, so disregard any comments saying that has been shot down. It hasn't. Suggestions being shot down by a majority of members in CQ&F mean absolutely nothing in HQ. Community decisions aren't made in CQ&F. They're made in HQ.

That said, I created a thread for voting and discussion and I (or another higher staff) will update you on the decision when voting ends.

 

[Spinor]

Ngh... Colored usertitles.... tempting.

Yeah, being a Tier 5 actually goes into more of an area of donating from kindness. If you see the Donations page, the threshold of incrementation in perks is dramatically lower after Tier 3. Some people don't need so much PM space, some people don't need an e-mail address... but I'll admit it's a good thing to brag about and to use for pride reasons ^__^

The "You've been quoted" thingy... think of the server, people. THINK OF THE SERVER.

Meh, I'm happy with being banned for months set in my usernotes and an infraction for swearing. After being here for 5 years you get used to your warnings staring at you in the face every time you visit your profile. It even gets a bit nostalgic.

 

[Her]

lololol i barely know any of my perks why do i need more i won't use

I'll be honest, I know only two, maybe three people who donated to help the community instead of handing cashmoney for larger avatars, bigger profile pictures etc. Of course, perks are nice and all; who doesn't like them? But the supporters have enough perks as it is, adding more would be silly. With all the eventual roundabouts into getting larger profile pictures, McPadding and the like, staff should have at least one perk (colored usertitles, as horrible and disgustingly used they are. they don't even look nice most of the time) to themselves along with ~moderation power~.

For the 'Quoted You' thing, I do like the idea of it but with the database as, well, crap as it is PC can't afford to have another burden on the server. It'd be like whipping it with a Cat o'Nine Tails constantly.

As for infractions, haahahahhaahah. This sounds like an idea to try appear squeaky clean when in reality you're not!!!! I understand the basis for this, I mean, one year is a good 'rehabilitation' process but infractions are meant to remind you of your past mistakes (and those love yellow and red bars look so nice on my profile) and ultimately punish you (ooooh).

idk i'm anti-everything

 

[Melody]

I have two suggestions for new supporter features. These would really be for Tier 5 & 6 or just 6 in my opinion, but it's up to the staff to decide. I really think since one has to spend four times the T5 amount to get to T6, some more perks would be nice.

1) A "Quoted Me" feature
This feature would alert the user whenever one of their posts is quoted and replied to in a thread.

2) Colored usertitles for Supporters
Currently this is a staff only perk. This would pretty much allow users to have a customized usertitle and subtitle under their user name in threads.

I also have a suggestion on the infraction system. The goal of the system should be to allow users to learn from past mistakes. In order to further this goal, it would good for warning and infractions to be completely erased from a member's record granted they do not receive any new warnings or infractions in for that same or a similar offense 1 year after the particular warning or infraction has expired. The period can even be 2, 3, or more years. It seems to me that longtime members could be getting banned for hitting the 25 total infraction limit even though most of those happened a very long time ago. This probably wouldn't be a problem anytime soon, but I foresee it happening in the future.

I won't rehash what has already been said on 1&2. I'll just say I agree.

As for the infraction deletion, I also agree that they not be deleted. The fact of the matter is that if you're a long time member and you've not had any infractions in years and, if you reach a point where you're nearing 25 infractions, you can probably fork off into a new account without being re-hit by them. Though if you seriously have more than 10 infractions less than a year old, regardless of their expiration status, theoretically you should already have been permabanned anyways especially if you've repeated the same offenses.

It is simple really. Yes, you can gain amnesty from those fusty old infractions from your n00b days, but the staff should never be required to grant that to anyone who asks...or grant it to just anyone who creates an alt account. If they've got 10 infractions on their old account, then the staff member (Especially H-staff) CAN transfer them over IF you get infracted again, IF they feel it's necessary. If your actions betray an intention to evade the 25 Infraction limit and continue to act without regard to the rules, then they can make sure you can't evade it.

If the staff member feels like you're just a bumbling but constructive member who merely stumbles over minor infractions every so often, and you've earned amnesty, then it's their decision to grant it if they so choose...in any way they see fit. It doesn't necessarily mean they'll forgive your previous infractions. They may only verbally warn you, or hand you a documented warning on that account.

 

[Sydian]

The quote thing would get annoying, especially for those that make popular posts. And sometimes people quote your posts from forever ago, and it's like...ugh. idek. Yeah yeah server too.

The usertitle thing...nyeeh. Having supporters asking for a change in usertitle (and there are more supporters than staff, so keep that in mind) would get annoying to the admins that change them. Even if it's just tier 5 and 6, I know I feel like I'm bugging admins when I ask for a colored usertitle. So adding them into the mix...poor admins. Eeeeee.

Infractions should stay...lol. Like Harlequin said, you're not a clean slate!

 

[Kura]

Honestly, I hope this is not veering offtopic, but that quote-me thing would be pretty nice for blogs @_@ Cause sometimes people will post comments in old blogs and you won't know at all unless you're just nosying through some old thoughts .__.
I can see how it'd stress the already.. unstable server.. though..


@_@ What I thought would be nice.. partially because I am one of them.. but.. @_@ Super veteran members only get like 150 pm-space storage.. and like.. I'm an over 6 year old member here. I know I could probably back up a few PMs to textfiles or whatever.. but I kinda like to save some PMs for old memories.. >_> Problem with this is that.. my box is at 110ish.. and I continuously try to find stuff to purge but it's proving difficult ..
What I am saying is.. so what? Sure, I could fork over $5. I know it's pocketchange.. but should that really matter with becoming a long contributing member?
:/ It'd be nice if older vets (5+ years) or people with like 10,000 post count (which I just about almost have) could get 200 spaces for PM instead of 150.
I mean.. 50 more isn't asking much for a member who's contributed quite a bit to PC, dontcha think?

I think supporters get what.. 1000? (and how many PMs would they really get a couple months since joining?) And mods get like.. I don't even know.. 20k? Haha (jk) but I know it's quite a lot.. @_@ So.. it couldn't be THAT stressful on the server..

@_@ I just think it'd be fair.. cause like.. really.. it's only a handful of non-supporter/staff members who have so many postcounts or there's really only a small amount of 5-yearold/orolder non-staffy/supporter active members on here.. PLUS.. it's like what nica said:

And if supporters got more perks, then I'd just feel worse for the members who can't actually donate and are missing out on what everyone else is getting to "increase interest in donating". Too many perks seems unfair, so yeah.

lol.. so.. yes! Where's the regular "you're a good ol' member" perks? Haha.. :C Can't the good-ol' members get rewarded once in a while here? :C Why do I gotta open my briefcase to get a little consideration?

*sadface* :C (Nah not really sad :3 it's just a small suggestion.. since.. things HAVE been taken away that I had considered a perk because of a server issue.. which is basically the Who's viewing feature.. which I loved ;_;.. can't I have a little perks-y lovin' guys?)

 

[Melody]

I kinda do somewhat agree...the 150 PM limit is awful miserly. :<

I think bumping it up to 500 for members, 1000 for the first "More PMs tier" and 1500 for the second "More PMs" tier would be nice. :P

 

[Ho-Oh]

I think supporters get what.. 1000? (and how many PMs would they really get a couple months since joining?) And mods get like.. I don't even know.. 20k? Haha (jk) but I know it's quite a lot.. @_@ So.. it couldn't be THAT stressful on the server..

@_@ I just think it'd be fair.. cause like.. really.. it's only a handful of non-supporter/staff members who have so many postcounts ._. Cause it's like what nica said:

lol.. so.. yes! Where's the regular "you're a good ol' member" perks? Haha.. :C Can't the good-ol' members get rewarded once in a while here? :C Why do I gotta open my briefcase to get a little consideration?

*sadface* :C (Nah not really sad :3 it's just a small suggestion)

Well, we get 1000, just like the supporters, idk about higher ranks.

But yes, I agree that the member rank should have their PM inbox raised, because really, 150 suuucked. I remember in 2008/2009, I only saved my PMs once or twice, yet in 2007/2006/2005, I was hitting the PM limit all the time and it was kinda annoying. I don't think it should be just for the veterans, just for everyone tbh.

150 is waaaaayyy too low.

 

[Fushigidane-Chan]

I've been here for five years and I still have a 150-PM limit. Or do you mean in terms of postcount, etc.?

 

[Kura]

Well, we get 1000, just like the supporters, idk about higher ranks.

But yes, I agree that the member rank should have their PM inbox raised, because really, 150 suuucked. I remember in 2008/2009, I only saved my PMs once or twice, yet in 2007/2006/2005, I was hitting the PM limit all the time and it was kinda annoying. I don't think it should be just for the veterans, just for everyone tbh.

150 is waaaaayyy too low.

I think 150 is fine for members who have been here a year, 200 for 2-3 years.. and then 300 for 3+ years would be awesome @_@

I dunno.. I just like to keep a few of my PMs that were really sweet, or some PMs that I feel impacted me and were kinda important to me, too ._. It hurts me every time it says "YOU HAVE 10% OF SPACE AVAILABLE" or whatever and I just think "@_@ Oh god.. what am I gunna have to delete now.. ;_;.. )


And haha okay.. well admins must be the ones with 20k or whatever.. unless it was changed.. @_@ or maybe it was something like 5000.. I just remember in HS when Erica was in class and I was like HOLY.. You never have to delete a PM ever in your life! Haha..

>_> Then again I think that was 5 years ago so.. my mind could be exaggerating.. haha..


;_; But I'd really appreciate more space.. even 50 more.. would help a lot for this old sentimental hag.. ;__; *limps away with her cane*