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Help Thread: Official Hack Checking Thread

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    • sater10 said:
    yeah, i was mentioning someone outside this community whom trading his Beast Ball Litten and claim it as "Event" Pokemon from Moncolle. anyway, your link seems neat and i like how you present it. nice job and thanks for your hard work providing the information.
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    Ahh gotcha, yeah I'm pretty sure at this point that's not true nor possible. Thank you! I worked a little too hard on it, but hopefully it can be passed around and become common knowledge.
     
    Haileo

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    • RoadMart said:
    Event Pokemon from 3rd Generation that have the "Fateful Encounter" flag are hacked.
    Exceptions: Mew / Deoxys / Lugia / Ho-Oh, Pokemon from XD, later FRLG Events
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    I'd just like to add something, if I can.

    Pokestock was a 3rd gen program that allowed you to (improperly) Pal Park without the use of another DS console or GBA game, it only allowed for a save file. If that was done, a fateful encounter flag was placed on the Pokemon. In Pokemon Secure's eyes, this event would still be legit because we considered the improperly Pal Parked Pokepark eggs to be legit. Although, I was never told which Pokepark eggs they were talking about lol.

    Ex. If someone has a .gpk file of a 3rd gen event (as opposed to a .pkm file), when importing it into a 4th gen or above save file if not properly Pal Parked, it would have a fateful encounter flag. I've seen this happen to the popular Impish ROCKS Metang I've seen (which is also hosted on Project Pokemon and PKMDB).
     
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    • Haileo said:
    I'd just like to add something, if I can.

    Pokestock was a 3rd gen program that allowed you to (improperly) Pal Park without the use of another DS console or GBA game, it only allowed for a save file. If that was done, a fateful encounter flag was placed on the Pokemon. In Pokemon Secure's eyes, this event would still be legit because we considered the improperly Pal Parked Pokepark eggs to be legit. Although, I was never told which Pokepark eggs they were talking about lol.

    Ex. If someone has a .gpk file of a 3rd gen event (as opposed to a .pkm file), when importing it into a 4th gen or above save file if not properly Pal Parked, it would have a fateful encounter flag. I've seen this happen to the popular Impish ROCKS Metang I've seen (which is also hosted on Project Pokemon and PKMDB).
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    Interesting. Well, without a list of Events this was done to, it's hard to distinguish which were transferred with this method and which were actually just hacked. The same issue we always have. Besides, there are plenty of those without the flag that have been determined to be legit.
     
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    Road, I must say once again, you're my hero
     
    ChaserSun2717

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    I just got this in wondertrade, does it look legit?

    Whimsicott
    Lvl: 100
    Ball: Standard
    Shiny: Yes
    OT: Sparrow
    ID:28557
    Ability: Prankster
    Nature: Bold
    Game of Origin: ORAS
    EV trained: Yes. heavily, in HP and Speed

    IV'S:

    whimsicott.PNG
     
    Road

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    • ChaserSun2717 said:
    I just got this in wondertrade, does it look legit?

    Whimsicott
    Lvl: 100
    Ball: Standard
    Shiny: Yes
    OT: Sparrow
    ID:28557
    Ability: Prankster
    Nature: Bold
    Game of Origin: ORAS
    EV trained: Yes. heavily, in HP and Speed

    IV'S:

    View attachment 82368
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    "Look" legit is a good qualifier lol. Seems fine, but as usual, WT Shinies should always be taken with a grain of salt.
     

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    • here we go again~ got this one in WT, and im questioning her legitness (again this, is in X)

    Delibird (Shiny) lv. 50 // Love Ball
    OT: Maxine
    ID No.: 43969
    HP: 120
    Atk: 82
    Def: 65
    Sp. Atk: 76
    Sp. Def: 65
    Speed: 95
    Ability: Hustle
    Moves: Ice Shard, Ice Punch, Present, Fake Out
    Nature: Adamant
    From: A Link Trade
    Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
    Note: She came from an egg, but the 'from' info and her 6IV is making me suspicious. Originated from ORAS, since the 'where' says 'Faraway Place'.

    Also this one. got him as a lv.1 froakie in WT like from two years ago :'D

    Greninja (Shiny) Lv. 100 // Poke ball
    OT: Hatenull
    ID No.: 09628
    HP: 285
    Atk: 204
    Def: 170
    Sp. Atk: 335
    Sp. Def: 168
    Speed: 343
    Ability: Protean
    Moves: Hydro Pump, Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, U-turn
    Nature: Modest
    Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
    note: again, came from an egg and got sent to WT to me. has 5IV.
     

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    Shiny Totodile | Lv. 1 | Pokeball
    OT/ID: Jet/12787
    IVs: (HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe) Decent/31/31/31/31/31
    Ability/Nature: Sheer Force/Adamant
    Moves: Dragon Dance, Crunch, Aqua Jet, Ice Punch
    From: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75548866
    Characteristic: Alert to sounds
    Note: Seems to have traveled across both space and time to reach you from the Hoenn region.
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    Shiny Koffing (JPN) | Lv. 1 | Love Ball
    OT/ID: (Something Japanese/652200
    IVs: (HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe) 31/31/31/31/31/31
    Ability/Nature: Levitate/Bold
    Moves: Destiny Bond, Toxic Spikes, Stockpile, Pain Split
    From: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75548866
    Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
    Note: Egg Received: 3/17/2017
    From: Nursery Helpers.
    Egg Hatched: Apparently 3/18/2017
    Where: Paniola Ranch
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    Shiny Cyndaquil | Lv. 1 | Pokeball
    OT/ID: JLW 22/40270
    IVs: (HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe) PG/VG/D/VG/VG/VG
    Ability/Nature: Blaze/Gentle
    Moves: Tackle/Leer
    From: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75548866
    Characteristic: Quick to flee
    Note: Seems to have traveled across both space and time to reach you from the Unova region.

    Edit: This too
    Shiny Cofagrigus | Lv. 34 | Ultraball
    OT/ID: Ginko/149494
    IVs: (HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe) PG/PG/D/VG/D/D
    Ability/Nature: Mummy/Timid
    Moves: Scary Face. Curse, Ominous Wind, Power Spilt
    From: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75540014
    Characteristic: Often lost in thought
    Note: Egg Received: 5/15/2017
    From: Nursery Helpers.
    Egg Hatched: Apparently 5/15/2017
    Where: Paniola Ranch
     
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    • MetaWolfie said:
    here we go again~ got this one in WT, and im questioning her legitness (again this, is in X)

    Delibird (Shiny) lv. 50 // Love Ball
    OT: Maxine
    ID No.: 43969
    HP: 120
    Atk: 82
    Def: 65
    Sp. Atk: 76
    Sp. Def: 65
    Speed: 95
    Ability: Hustle
    Moves: Ice Shard, Ice Punch, Present, Fake Out
    Nature: Adamant
    From: A Link Trade
    Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
    Note: She came from an egg, but the 'from' info and her 6IV is making me suspicious. Originated from ORAS, since the 'where' says 'Faraway Place'.

    Also this one. got him as a lv.1 froakie in WT like from two years ago :'D

    Greninja (Shiny) Lv. 100 // Poke ball
    OT: Hatenull
    ID No.: 09628
    HP: 285
    Atk: 204
    Def: 170
    Sp. Atk: 335
    Sp. Def: 168
    Speed: 343
    Ability: Protean
    Moves: Hydro Pump, Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, U-turn
    Nature: Modest
    Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
    note: again, came from an egg and got sent to WT to me. has 5IV.
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    Delibird has showed up on Reddit before according to Google and the mods immediately shot it down since 6IV Shiny from WT. "A Link trade" means it could have been a TSV match so it's not that odd. Still, 6IV Shiny from WT, so likely not legit and do not recommend trading. Same goes for Froakie.

    UberRoimel said:
    Someone Help!

    Shiny Totodile | Lv. 1 | Pokeball
    OT/ID: Jet/12787
    IVs: (HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe) Decent/31/31/31/31/31
    Ability/Nature: Sheer Force/Adamant
    Moves: Dragon Dance, Crunch, Aqua Jet, Ice Punch
    From: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75548866
    Characteristic: Alert to sounds
    Note: Seems to have traveled across both space and time to reach you from the Hoenn region.
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    Shiny Koffing (JPN) | Lv. 1 | Love Ball
    OT/ID: (Something Japanese/652200
    IVs: (HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe) 31/31/31/31/31/31
    Ability/Nature: Levitate/Bold
    Moves: Destiny Bond, Toxic Spikes, Stockpile, Pain Split
    From: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75548866
    Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
    Note: Egg Received: 3/17/2017
    From: Nursery Helpers.
    Egg Hatched: Apparently 3/18/2017
    Where: Paniola Ranch
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    Shiny Cyndaquil | Lv. 1 | Pokeball
    OT/ID: JLW 22/40270
    IVs: (HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe) PG/VG/D/VG/VG/VG
    Ability/Nature: Blaze/Gentle
    Moves: Tackle/Leer
    From: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75548866
    Characteristic: Quick to flee
    Note: Seems to have traveled across both space and time to reach you from the Unova region.

    Edit: This too
    Shiny Co***rigus | Lv. 34 | Ultraball
    OT/ID: Ginko/149494
    IVs: (HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe) PG/PG/D/VG/D/D
    Ability/Nature: Mummy/Timid
    Moves: Scary Face. Curse, Ominous Wind, Power Spilt
    From: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75540014
    Characteristic: Often lost in thought
    Note: Egg Received: 5/15/2017
    From: Nursery Helpers.
    Egg Hatched: Apparently 5/15/2017
    Where: Paniola Ranch
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    Assuming these aren't bred by the people you got them from, otherwise all of them would be fine since they're legally possible. Totodile / Koffing could be suspicious since thy're good but who knows. Cyndaquil / Cof I see no issues with since their IVs are poor. (Cyn could have been RNG, Cof looks like a lucky breed.) Can't tell you much more than that. I'd immediately write them off if they were WT/GTS but otherwise they look fine.
     
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    • UberRoimel said:
    Someone Help!

    Shiny Totodile | Lv. 1 | Pokeball
    OT/ID: Jet/12787
    IVs: (HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe) Decent/31/31/31/31/31
    Ability/Nature: Sheer Force/Adamant
    Moves: Dragon Dance, Crunch, Aqua Jet, Ice Punch
    From: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75548866
    Characteristic: Alert to sounds
    Note: Seems to have traveled across both space and time to reach you from the Hoenn region.
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    I have this same Shiny Totodile, and this is definitely legit. Around February or March this year he traded out this Shiny Totodile as well as a Shiny Dratini he bred (OT Jet, ID 104384).

    https://www.gamefaqs.com/community/star_gazer_91/bio
    Shiny Dratini - https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75072040

    UberRoimel said:
    Shiny Cyndaquil | Lv. 1 | Pokeball
    OT/ID: JLW 22/40270
    IVs: (HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe) PG/VG/D/VG/VG/VG
    Ability/Nature: Blaze/Gentle
    Moves: Tackle/Leer
    From: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000479-pokemon-sun-moon-trading/75548866
    Characteristic: Quick to flee
    Note: Seems to have traveled across both space and time to reach you from the Unova region.
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    This comes from a known PKHeXer on GameFAQs. I've had a hacked Shiny Eelektross by that OT too.
    https://www.gamefaqs.com/community/Jlw125/bio

    Can't help you as thoroughly with the Koffing or Cofagrigus, but they look okay from that info.
     
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    First two from link trades, last was gts

    Shiny Tranquill | Great Ball | Lvl 30
    Daniel | 43951
    Hp:82 | Sp.Atk:36 | Atk:57 | Sp.Def:34 | Def:48 | Speed: 48
    Super Luck | Qurky
    Gust | Roost | Air Cutter | Quick Attack
    Likes to thrash about
    Seems to have traveled across both space and time to reach you from the Unova region




    Shiny Swirlix | Luxury Ball | Lvl 44
    Kana | 11050
    Hp:125 | Sp.Atk: 63 | Atk:65 | Sp.Def: 69 | Def:80 | Speed: 70
    Sweet Veil | Jolly
    Cotton Spore | Fake Tears | Fairy Wind | Endeavor
    Likes to thrash about
    Seems to have traveled across both dpace and time to reach you from the Kalos Region


    Shiny Mew | Event Ball | Lvl 5 when recieved, currently lvl 61
    AuSLove.TV | 54321
    Hp:214 | Sp.Atk:135 | Atk:172 | Sp.Def:161 | Def: 155 | Speed:177
    Synchronize | Careful
    Psychic | Mega Punch | Ancient Power | False Swipe
    Likes to thrash about
    A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach you from the Hoenn region
    I originally got the mew on omega ruby but transferred it to moon
     
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    • Geowlett said:
    Shiny Mew | Event Ball | Lvl 5 when recieved, currently lvl 61
    AuSLove.TV | 54321
    Hp:214 | Sp.Atk:135 | Atk:172 | Sp.Def:161 | Def: 155 | Speed:177
    Synchronize | Careful
    Psychic | Mega Punch | Ancient Power | False Swipe
    Likes to thrash about
    A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach you from the Hoenn region
    I originally got the mew on omega ruby but transferred it to moon
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    Hack. no doubt about it. any shiny from AuSLove.TV is hack. plus, there is no such shiny mew event so far. for the rest, i need time to check them.
     
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    • Geowlett said:
    First two from link trades, last was gts

    Shiny Tranquill | Great Ball | Lvl 30
    Daniel | 43951
    Hp:82 | Sp.Atk:36 | Atk:57 | Sp.Def:34 | Def:48 | Speed: 48
    Super Luck | Qurky
    Gust | Roost | Air Cutter | Quick Attack
    Likes to thrash about
    Seems to have traveled across both space and time to reach you from the Unova region

    Shiny Swirlix | Luxury Ball | Lvl 44
    Kana | 11050
    Hp:125 | Sp.Atk: 63 | Atk:65 | Sp.Def: 69 | Def:80 | Speed: 70
    Sweet Veil | Jolly
    Cotton Spore | Fake Tears | Fairy Wind | Endeavor
    Likes to thrash about
    Seems to have traveled across both dpace and time to reach you from the Kalos Region
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    Tranquill is a weird one to hack because it's fairly uncommon and not really that desired. The OT seems normal.
    Swirlix also looks normal and doesn't raise any flags.

    Geowlett said:
    Shiny Mew | Event Ball | Lvl 5 when recieved, currently lvl 61
    AuSLove.TV | 54321
    Hp:214 | Sp.Atk:135 | Atk:172 | Sp.Def:161 | Def: 155 | Speed:177
    Synchronize | Careful
    Psychic | Mega Punch | Ancient Power | False Swipe
    Likes to thrash about
    A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach you from the Hoenn region
    I originally got the mew on omega ruby but transferred it to moon
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    Like before, AuSLove.TV and any derivatives with .tv or sounding too YouTube-y are hacks. People make fake events or shinies to try to get more viewers or followers.

    If you got Mew through the GTS with a Cherish ball, then it's definitely a hack, as I don't believe Cherish Ball Pokemon can be traded or even Mew through GTS. There was only one event where you could get a shiny Mew, and that was during Gen III. However, the Old Sea Map Mew did not guarantee a shiny. Most of those are hacked, as well. If you're interested in a legit shiny Mew, look out for "OT: E p p i e" & a few other legit OTs.
     
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    Shiny Dialga | Pokeball | Lvl 100 | Link Trade
    RyGuy29 | 08675
    Hp:132 | Sp.ATK: 438 | Atk: 276 | Sp.Def | 236 | Def: 248 | Speed: 272
    Pressure | Mild
    Draco Meteor | Outrage | Fire Blast | Thunder
    Likes to thrash about
    Seems to have traveled across space and time to reach you from the Sinnoh region

    Shiny Darkrai | Event Ball | Lvl 100 | Link Trade
    PokeGamer16 | 15203
    Hp: 312 | Sp.Atk: 332 | Atk: 237 | Sp.Def: 217 | Def: 216 | Speed: 317
    Bad Dreams | Adamant
    Dark Void | Dream Eater | Phantom Force | Dark Pulse


    this last one i really hope isnt a hacked

    Shaymin | Event Ball | Lvl 100 | Link Trade
    GF | 07016
    Hp: 341 | Sp.Atk: 283 | Atk: 237 | Sp.Def: 259 | Def: 236 | Speed: 254
    Natural Cure | Sassy
    Seed Flare | Air Slash | Dazzling Gleam | Psychic
    Likes to thrash about (why do they all like to thrash about tho?)
    A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach you from the Hoenn region






    I have more but im at the library and my times about up
     
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    Geowlett said:
    Shiny Dialga | Pokeball | Lvl 100 | Link Trade
    RyGuy29 | 08675
    Hp:132 | Sp.ATK: 438 | Atk: 276 | Sp.Def | 236 | Def: 248 | Speed: 272
    Pressure | Mild
    Draco Meteor | Outrage | Fire Blast | Thunder
    Likes to thrash about
    Seems to have traveled across space and time to reach you from the Sinnoh region

    Shiny Darkrai | Event Ball | Lvl 100 | Link Trade
    PokeGamer16 | 15203
    Hp: 312 | Sp.Atk: 332 | Atk: 237 | Sp.Def: 217 | Def: 216 | Speed: 317
    Bad Dreams | Adamant
    Dark Void | Dream Eater | Phantom Force | Dark Pulse


    this last one i really hope isnt a hacked

    Shaymin | Event Ball | Lvl 100 | Link Trade
    GF | 07016
    Hp: 341 | Sp.Atk: 283 | Atk: 237 | Sp.Def: 259 | Def: 236 | Speed: 254
    Natural Cure | Sassy
    Seed Flare | Air Slash | Dazzling Gleam | Psychic
    Likes to thrash about (why do they all like to thrash about tho?)
    A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach you from the Hoenn region






    I have more but im at the library and my times about up
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    Darkrai is definetly a hack, the OT is a hacker.
    Dialga seems to have a weird problem with it's stats, can you check to see if you correctly entered the right value? If you didn't make a mistake, it's also a hack.

    Does the Shaymin have a ribbon?
     
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    Soapyyy said:
    Darkrai is definetly a hack, the OT is a hacker.
    Dialga seems to have a weird problem with it's stats, can you check to see if you correctly entered the right value? If you didn't make a mistake, it's also a hack.

    Does the Shaymin have a ribbon?
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    The stats are correct

    Shaymin has a classic ribbon and an alola champion ribbon
     
    Road

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    • Soapyyy said:
    Darkrai is definetly a hack, the OT is a hacker.
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    To double-up on this, good rule of thumb is:

    Anything in an event (Cherish) ball that was not meant to be Shiny is a hack.
    - Since Gen IV, just about all of the events have been Shiny locked (it CANNOT be Shiny EVER), with the exception being the JR Kyushu Trains campaign Pokemon from Gen V.
    - Some events that must ALWAYS be Shiny are things such as the Summer 2013 Dialga/Palkia/Giratina, or the recent Melemele Shiny Tapu Koko.

    You can always cross-reference the information of an event by going to Serebii's Event Database (easiest to go by Pokemon), or by checking on Bulbapedia (if you go to a Pokemon's specific page, scroll down to Game data -> Game locations, then In events; there you can find links to the different events and cross-reference the information).

    I think this is all in the hack-checking guide, but I wanted to reiterate it so maybe people will check those first. It's really easy to catch hacks that way. >w>
     
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