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hansiec said:
I feel the exact same, everywhere I apply that says "Help Wanted" I never get the job, they never even reply that they declined it. (except for Pizza Hut, they were nice enough to tell me)
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One time, this greek place by my house said that they "had too many potential candidates for employees that they decided not to take anybody." Like. What. Seriously? Was that the best excuse they could come up with?
 
One time I applied for Subway and the manager just said "don't expect to get the job because we have too many workers, look around." and it was only him and like 7 customers, and to this date I've only seen him and one other person work there.
 
I've given up on trying to find jobs in like retail, and customer service places around the area >>;; Tried to apply to Starbucks a couple years ago, but that didn't work out \: At least now there are job opportunities around school, and I'll be heading into co-op in January!
 
Luckily, I don't really need to look for another job too hard. My roommate already has a job lined up as a Chipotle store manager and he's going to hire me as an assistant (at another store.)
 
You are then extremely lucky that you have someone like that who can just give you a job, I have to work hard and even then I don't even get a reply from anyone.
 
Alex said:
When I went and applied at our local Wendy's, I waited an hour and a half for the GM to take his time having a leisurely conversation with one of his managers, and when I finally got to talk to them he was very aggressive in conversation and insulted my dress on the way in and the way out, also cutting me off mid-sentence on multiple occasions with me already incredibly nervous. He also attempted to dance around the questions and expected completely wrong answers out of me and got frustrated when I didn't answer the way he wanted to. My therapist says that my potential far exceeds anything he'll ever be, and my mother says I was dressed perfect for a fast food job interview, so I ain't worried. They can kiss my ass, 'cause I don't give a damn.
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Oh man, real world jobs are going to chew you up and spit you out if you're starting job interviews with "he didn't want the right answers". Seriously.
 
Umbreon said:
You are then extremely lucky that you have someone like that who can just give you a job, I have to work hard and even then I don't even get a reply from anyone.
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eh, you're 17. It'll get easier when you turn 18/get out of school. A lot of places don't like to hire minors. Best of luck to you though!

Oryx said:
Oh man, real world jobs are going to chew you up and spit you out if you're starting job interviews with "he didn't want the right answers". Seriously.
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When I have interviews, I like to pretend that I am Julia Roberts in a A-list movie. Because that's what interviews are..a big show. My boss always wonders why I hire the best people..it's because I don't put on the show. That's actually my first line when giving interviews.."Wow, you look really nice. I'm incredibly impressed! Just so you know though, this isn't a show anymore." Then I ask..actual relevant questions.
 
G.U.Y. said:
eh, you're 17. It'll get easier when you turn 18/get out of school. A lot of places don't like to hire minors. Best of luck to you though!



When I have interviews, I like to pretend that I am Julia Roberts in a A-list movie. Because that's what interviews are..a big show. My boss always wonders why I hire the best people..it's because I don't put on the show. That's actually my first line when giving interviews.."Wow, you look really nice. I'm incredibly impressed! Just so you know though, this isn't a show anymore." Then I ask..actual relevant questions.
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I just like to be friendly. Half of how you get a job is a good culture fit - if they think you're a person that they like they'll be willing to go out of their way for you and such, think that you'll be willing to work on whatever flaws you might have, and you can talk yourself into a job when you have less experience ("I'm looking for a long-term job where I have room to grow so I'm worth training"). The job I have now, the manager likes me so he's already told me he's willing to be flexible with me on working from home vs. working in the office, and I haven't even started yet. :)
 
G.U.Y. said:
eh, you're 17. It'll get easier when you turn 18/get out of school. A lot of places don't like to hire minors. Best of luck to you though!
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As for school I just finished last week, and I'll be turning 18 in December, but I was hoping to get a summer job because everyone around me that's between 15-17 have a job because the schools around us can help you find one if you're having trouble getting a job, but I was homeschooled so I feel odd out over that. xD

Oh well, it's just more of an excuse for me to stay indoors this summer.
 
Umbreon said:
As for school I just finished last week, and I'll be turning 18 in December, but I was hoping to get a summer job because everyone around me that's between 15-17 have a job because the schools around us can help you find one if you're having trouble getting a job, but I was homeschooled so I feel odd out over that. xD

Oh well, it's just more of an excuse for me to stay indoors this summer.
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I can see how people would be more willing the hire people who went to school over people who were homeschooled. There's a stigma surrounding it making people believe people who are homeschooled aren't as..socialized.

Maybe try and not bring up the fact you were homeschooled.
 
Oryx said:
I just like to be friendly. Half of how you get a job is a good culture fit - if they think you're a person that they like they'll be willing to go out of their way for you and such, think that you'll be willing to work on whatever flaws you might have, and you can talk yourself into a job when you have less experience ("I'm looking for a long-term job where I have room to grow so I'm worth training"). The job I have now, the manager likes me so he's already told me he's willing to be flexible with me on working from home vs. working in the office, and I haven't even started yet. :)
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Unfortunately everyone is not a social butterfly and many aren't as skilled in what seems to come natural to you.

Also I just came to the stunning revelation that along with the owner of the McDonald's I'm applying at being a giant ♥♥♥♥♥ (one of her managers bestowed this info in casual conversation), but every single one of her assistant managers and her GM are female, say for this one guy who looks and acts incredibly effeminate (I have a hunch he's gay). This is not looking good for me. o_p
 
Alex said:
Unfortunately everyone is not a social butterfly and many aren't as skilled in what seems to come natural to you.
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LOL. If you think being friendly/outgoing comes naturally to me, you really don't know me at all. I almost skipped the opportunity that got me my job because I was nervous to the point of extreme nausea at going to it alone. I've walked out of buildings in tears because there was a club meeting there but it wasn't clear where it was and I was too scared to ask people if they were part of the club. And this was all within the past few years. I just worked at it.
 
Umbreon said:
Mostly of the job applications I fill out usually have something for if you're still attending school that you must write out your school's details.
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A lot of hiring managers I know don't actually read the entire application. They just check relevant experience, if you have felonies, etc. Not saying you should lie, but try and find a way to say it without..actually saying it. This one girl I hired actually did this, she put her school down as "[Mother's name] Academy". I thought it was funny.
 
Oryx said:
LOL. If you think being friendly/outgoing comes naturally to me, you really don't know me at all. I almost skipped the opportunity that got me my job because I was nervous to the point of extreme nausea at going to it alone. I've walked out of buildings in tears because there was a club meeting there but it wasn't clear where it was and I was too scared to ask people if they were part of the club. And this was all within the past few years. I just worked at it.
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A lot of things come naturally to me, however personally I've always been rather socially awkward and have learned to remain quiet. You know, don't speak unless spoken to, behave cordially, show manners, be a gentleman… but I guess those qualities don't get me very far, eh? I'm also too quiet, and often don't know what to say, and walk funny, etc.

I'm not sure what you meant by those examples… I just thought that for some being smooth and socially attractive was easy, as so many other things are a given for me that it seemed sociability was just another trait. :/
 
Alex said:
A lot of things come naturally to me, however personally I've always been rather socially awkward and have learned to remain quiet. You know, don't speak unless spoken to, behave cordially, show manners, be a gentleman… but I guess those qualities don't get me very far, eh? I'm also too quiet, and often don't know what to say, and walk funny, etc.

I'm not sure what you meant by those examples… I just thought that for some being smooth and socially attractive was easy, as so many other things are a given for me that it seemed sociability was just another trait. :/
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It's really, really rude to assume that because I do something, it must be because it comes naturally to me and not because of the effort I put forth. I worked for years at it and it's something that most everyone can do, excluding doctor-diagnosed social anxiety, it's just difficult and involves intentionally making yourself vulnerable.

Showing manners and being kind is a good thing. But if you're trying to make it in the job world, you have to learn how to put on a facade of cheerfulness and ease, because the world favors extroverts.
 
Umbreon said:
I didn't know going to a forum made for Pokemon could give me some good advice about jobs. xD

Have you got any other tips?
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A lot of the forum is all grown up now!

Dress for the job you want., not the job you're applying to. Have a sense of humor and don't talk too much. Stay to the point. :)
 
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