Prism League Discussion (Previously "Our own Pokemon X/Y League")

Leaders/E4 using Pokemon whose Megas change to a different type, yes or no?

  • Yes

    Votes: 25 75.8%

  • No

    Votes: 8 24.2%
  • Total voters
    33
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Polar Spectrum said:
Thank you verrrry much for sharing that. Those are all really good things to set in place. I'm gonna toss out some purely suggestive answers to those, hopefully someone / a few people can toss some opinions and possibly better solutions out too.
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You're very welcome, it's always nice to see people get passionate about something like this so I want to help however I can :D
Polar Spectrum said:
[*] Disconnections:
How about, a DC past a certain point in a match counts for something, and a certain number of that significance of DC's in one challenge forces a restart on that leader, or the challenge altogether? I'm not describing this one that well hahah. Hangon; let's say, so and so has a shaky connection. They drop literally as both leads come out. "Whatever, lets just both agree to use the same leads, no harm no foul." But the connection later drops again, when the challenger is down 3 pokemon to the leader only having lost 1. That counts as *one* official DC during the challenge. They may have to restart on that leader alone, go back a leader, or restart the whole challenge if they have another DC on any other gym leader.
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Sorry if I didn't quote it but I think someone said to manually review the replays (it's possible to watch then in Showdown but I'm not sure if it's a dropped battle, but forfeits in wifi can be recorded. It might be hard to tell who's "ahead" in a battle but you can get input from the leader in question about how to address the DC (instant rematch, win, or loss [rematch after 24 hours]) Haha yeah it can get confusing @_@
Polar Spectrum said:
[*] I'm not sure if it was addressed but what about the idea of having more than 8 gyms? Challengers can still be required to get (a minimum of) 8 badges but more gyms can give them more variety and spreads the burden of maintaining gyms to other members.

That should be something to consider; but we don't want to force challengers from either side onto the other, since they may legitimately be incapable (like myself with Showdown, or anyone who doesn't own a 3ds). More gyms could work - but if anything we'd have to do 5 badges to challenge elites with 10 gyms, or 6 with 12, etc.
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Ah that's true and an understandable point, some people are more comfortable with a particular mode so no need to pressure them. :)
Polar Spectrum said:
[*] Replayability: This was an issue that we addressed early on: what is there to do for people after they beat the league? I ended up breaking down the league in periods (or seasons) where a new season would have challengers start again, giving them a time limit as well as something new to do. A new season can also mean a rotation of gym leaders, Elite 4, Champion, and lets you try out new ideas.

Heyyyy, that sounds pretty cool. I could dig it. We could offer special rewards of some sort for completing the league with certain challenges, or specific circumstances. We could do rewards of very specially bred pokemon for cartridge, or something more forum based for Showdown league-goers. Having seasons sounds like a neat idea too. I'm not entirely sure how holding these tryouts for spots on the league would go multiple times though, it would certainly have to be a great deal of time between seasons.... like, 6 months to a year. Since I can't imagine many people want to go through the ordeal we've faced in the last week or two with these qualification matches multiple times, every few weeks or so.
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Yeah thanks, glad you like it :D

My league had some rotations (gym leaders had to drop because of other priorities, people were interested in helping out) so it would be fun to put a fresh spin on things. It's kinda rough at first but I'm sure the method will get more streamlined, having a break in between is good too since you give people time to work on their teams and you guys get to take a break :)
Polar Spectrum said:
[*]Be clear about how the gyms are set up. Our league opted to stay pure monotype but allowed gym leaders to change their teams without prior notice, we mentioned that this is to keep challengers on their toes as well as prevent the gym leaders from getting bored. Possible that counter-teaming might get brought up but you guys look like a friendly bunch who just want to set up a fun event for everyone so it shouldn't be a concern ;)

I personally hope it goes like that :3 But we seem to be mostly, as a group - going for the dual-typed gym leader bit. I am also all for gym leaders being able to change their teams before facing any challenger without notice though; and I would hope that since each leader would only have 2 types, and we don't want to be dicks - that counter-picking too often or too harshly wouldn't occur. Obviously for some things, you would be a fool not to do, such as if you had a fire - steel gym, and you knew the challenger was bringing a ferrothorn and scizor, that can't be helped. That's an advantage for your gym regardless of a counter pick, and should encourage challengers to put a lot of thought into teams, with a very fair amount of consideration to balance and typing.
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Haha yeah we also had discussions on how to set up the gyms, dual-type is a good idea :D I might just suggest that to our guys Yeah you guys seem to be in it to enjoy the battles over purely winning, which is awesome as it gives off a welcoming and friendly atmosphere. I'm more of a breeder than a battler myself so I'd prefer a casual battling environment :P
 
I vote we call it the 'Super Ultra PC League Arcade Remix Hyper Edition EX Plus Alpha Prime'

Haha, but seriously we could just call it "PC's Beta League" like was mentioned earlier, or something else from the greek alphabet like 'Epsilon' or even something like 'Alpha' Or 'Omega' from the upcoming games.

Also, if we're calling gyms I wouldn't mind taking the water/ghost dual type.
 
Going off of this post, this is the W/L records for everyone so far:

Antebellum: 7/0
Euphoric: 4/0
Zekrom: 5/2
Falkbalk: 0/2
Ultraviolence: 0/3
Polar Spectrum: 6/3
Charizard Man: 4/1
Blueboi: 1/3
enigma: 1/3
TGM: 3/2
Ferraligator: 0/4
Cyclone: 1/2
Fokko: 1/0
AdamEternal: 0/2

I think I got everyone, but double check that to see if that's everyone AND the teh W/L records are correct.

And going off that list, the draft pick order looks something like this:

1st: Antebellum
2nd: Euphoric
3rd: Polar Spectrum
4th: Zekrom
5th: Charizard Man
6th: TGM
7th: Fokko
8th: enigma
9th: Cyclone
10th: BlueBoi
11th: AdamEternal
12th: Falkbalk
13th: Ultraviolence
14th: Ferraligator

So there it is, minus Cyclone because IDK what his battle record is. And like I said before, check this ♥♥♥♥ to make sure I got everyone in and got the W/L records right. If you think that there's something wrong with the draft order, please tell me.
 
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I'm gonna put my two cents in for the name now (excpet it'll be pence instead, but oh well :P): 'The Ambiguously Named PC League'. Its perfect :')

Also, if anyone does the Ghost/Grass combo Gym, I love you <3
 
Charizard_Man said:
The draft picks for types sounds awesome and efficient, so I agree with that. How will we decide gym leader/ elite members?
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Ummm, I think it would make sense for the first 4 draft picks in each league to be the elites, since it'd go off records for both. So thank Zekrom below for that list.

sharkshocker said:
Yeah you guys seem to be in it to enjoy the battles over purely winning, which is awesome as it gives off a welcoming and friendly atmosphere. I'm more of a breeder than a battler myself so I'd prefer a casual battling environment :P
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This is what I'm hoping will make this league a bigger draw than many other leagues. With the added bonus of having a few really skilled members for more competitive challengers.

J2a1m1i2e said:
I'm gonna put my two cents in for the name now (excpet it'll be pence instead, but oh well :P): 'The Ambiguously Named PC League'. Its perfect :')

Also, if anyone does the Ghost/Grass combo Gym, I love you <3
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Hahah - that's great. And Ghost Grass gym should definitely have at least either trevenant or gourgeist in it.



Zekrom; words cannot describe - how great it is that you compiled that. Excellent. Thank you. That's a huge skip forward. All we need is a draft date now, assuming there's nobody harshly opposed to doing a draft that is? And please - everybody pay attention to the draft date. I'll send out PM's to every single person on that list myself, so nobody has the excuse of "I didn't know we were doing it that day" unless you actually avoided the forum as a whole until then.

Any suggestions on how soon we should do it then?
 
Since mine was brought up, I had a 2-0 loss to Charizard and a sweep from Jr.'s Sceptile (that thing is OP defined) and Talonflame (mine was absent for that fight). I don't know if my battle with Polar counted as I don't think I made it clear I was going to make that my team for the qualifiers, but I won 2-0 on that thanks to saving my Porygon2 to deal with Mismagius, effectively deciding the match.

As for types, I say let the Elites choose their types first. I suggest Elites be mono-typed, but they could be dual-typed as well; the problem is that dual-typing both the E4 and the Gyms requires a full 20 types. So we will have repetition. Ice and Water is a good dual-type, but I haven't thought about other pairs.

Also, we'll need time to build our teams. I especially will have to pick and breed a type, and I'll try to get some surprises in moves.
 
Also, if Jr. does not include that Serperior on a Grass team, I will suggest he be removed. {XD} Wow, challengers will have a hard time with that.
 
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Antebellum said:
Couldnt we just have a nonlive draft on the thread?
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That'd probably work better - but we would stiiiiill need to notify all parties involved of the timing, since even if it's non-live, going by any order implies waiting on someone who's not there to keep it going. You're right though, that works better than just one day.


Edit: Cyclone, are you talking about his serperior? If so it's not really OP. :v
 
Sorry, his Serperior. The way he has it set up is just crazy, though. That's what I mean.
 
That's an interesting option, leaders could be monotype with flex Pokemon, and elites could be dual typed.... Not sure if I like it more than everyone being dual typed though. With leaders being dual types, they can legitimately have varied teams with some consistency instead of one type, with randomly typed backup pokes. I think I'd rather see dual typed leaders still personally.
 
Polar Spectrum said:
That's an interesting option, leaders could be monotype with flex Pokemon, and elites could be dual typed.... Not sure if I like it more than everyone being dual typed though. With leaders being dual types, they can legitimately have varied teams with some consistency instead of one type, with randomly typed backup pokes. I think I'd rather see dual typed leaders still personally.
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I meant that if there weren't enough types for everyone to have two without too much overlap.
 
Antebellum said:
How did it set up?
That's an interesting option, leaders could be monotype with flex Pokemon, and elites could be dual typed.... Not sure if I like it more than everyone being dual typed though. With leaders being dual types, they can legitimately have varied teams with some consistency instead of one type, with randomly typed backup pokes. I think I'd rather see dual typed leaders still personally.
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Actually, if you breed Egg Moves ingeniously, you can have a lot of options. See Chimchar and Thunderpunch, for instance. And some Water types learn Electric moves, either through TMs or breeding.
 
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Antebellum said:
How did it set up? [div="][/div]
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It just has glare, leech seed, energy ball, and a fourth move. Speed and bulk investments I'm fairly certain. It's really not over powered

and euphoric - um, I think a little overlap is okay - especially since people mostly won't even play both halves of the league
 
Polar Spectrum said:
It just has glare, leech seed, energy ball, and a fourth move. Speed and bulk investments I'm fairly certain. It's really not over powered

and euphoric - um, I think a little overlap is okay - especially since people mostly won't even play both halves of the league
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Ah yes, it was Energy Ball I was forgetting about. By itself, it's not that strong a move, but after being paralyzed and having to deal with HP being drained with Leech Seed, it turns into a OHKO. I did have the HP low in the second battle, but it got it all back by the third when Paralysis affected me.
 
Ok, so I edited the W/L records and the draft order. Cyclone is now included in there, and I removed elnoor from the lists because he told me he wanted to become a challenger instead. And am I forgetting anyone? Because I really feel like there's should be 1 or 2 other people on the list.

As for the draft picks, I say we do it non-live like Antebellum said. It'd be a hassle to get everyone on PC at the same time to do it "live". Just PM everyone so that they know that the need to have this as a priority so we don't have to wait days for that one guy to pick his type.

Hopefully there won't be too much type overlap when picking types.
 
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