Request a Moveset / Simple Q&A / Breeding Questions

[Spike Kintarin]

Okay, here's my current movesets for my SS team. (I think once I beat the E4 I'll transfer part/all of my teams from Platinum)

Ampharos
Lv 46
Signal Beam
Charge
Discharge
Thunderpunch

Togetic
Lv 40
Fly
Ancient Power
Extrasensory
Headbutt

Staryu
Lv 44
Swift
Surf (Yeah, not gonna do HP... the accuracy thing is a problem. ^-^;;; )
Recover
(blank... deleted Flash since I needed it for Lugia and was too lazy to exit, fly back to get a "slave", and come alllllll the way back.)

Typhlosion
Lv 45
Quick Attack
Swift
Smokescreen
Flamethrower

Umbreon
Lv 45
Confuse Ray
Shadow Ball
Faint Attack
Iron Tail

Last slot still Open
Still debating on my Dragonite (lv 100, Outrage, Thunder, Ice Beam, and Earthquake), or something else. >_> Any suggestions that might work with my team?

Anyways... any suggestions/ideas? I've only used about two or three TM's/HM's, and mostly level-ups, and it's... okay I suppose. O_o; Need more info on them?

 

[.Gamer]

@ Above, needs more Natures (also, anything works in game)

EDIT: I R DUMB AND DON"T KNOW THREDS!

 

[Spike Kintarin]

@ Above, needs more Natures (also, anything works in game)

((In same order as listed in previous post, Nature and Ability))

Bashful, Static
Jolly, Serene Grace
Brave, Natural Cure
Lax, Blaze
Brave, Synchronize

 

[Opposite Day]

@ Gamer, wrong thread noob.

Bashful is in general a nature you don't want, since it doesn't raise any stats at all. Jolly is a nature that ups speed, and decreases SpA, and since Togekiss usually wants to be a sweeper that relies on her Special Attack stat, you don't really want to shoot yourself in the foot. Brave on Staryu is not good for the exact same reason, a Brave nature = +Attack and - Speed, which ruins half of the reason why it is used. Lax is also in general an inferior nature no matter what, as you don't really want to decrease one of your defences for an increase of another. Brave, however, is a useful nature on an Umbreon, since its speed already is quite sub-par. I suck at rating teams, (and since this is in-game I guess it is no need to rate it), though you could put Payback >>> Faint Attack on Umbreon since it'll go last on most occasions anyway, and you could couple it up w/ Curse, Rest, and Sleep Talk in order to make a boosting tank?

 

[Spike Kintarin]

@ Gamer, wrong thread noob.

Bashful is in general a nature you don't want, since it doesn't raise any stats at all. Jolly is a nature that ups speed, and decreases SpA, and since Togekiss usually wants to be a sweeper that relies on her Special Attack stat, you don't really want to shoot yourself in the foot. Brave on Staryu is not good for the exact same reason, a Brave nature = +Attack and - Speed, which ruins half of the reason why it is used. Lax is also in general an inferior nature no matter what, as you don't really want to decrease one of your defences for an increase of another. Brave, however, is a useful nature on an Umbreon, since its speed already is quite sub-par. I suck at rating teams, (and since this is in-game I guess it is no need to rate it), though you could put Payback >>> Faint Attack on Umbreon since it'll go last on most occasions anyway, and you could couple it up w/ Curse, Rest, and Sleep Talk in order to make a boosting tank?

Oy, yeah, I'm usually too impatient to work on "perfecting" natures through breeding/catching. ^-^;;; Kinda my downfall.

So, basically on Umbreon: Payback, Curse, Rest, Sleep Talk? Is that right?

 

[Opposite Day]

Ya. I suppose you could run Focus Blast|Discharge/T-Bolt|Signal Beam|[Filler] on Amphy too, should give you something to use vs those nasty steels and rock-types that think they can spoil your fun.

 

[Spike Kintarin]

Ya. I suppose you could run Focus Blast|Discharge/T-Bolt|Signal Beam|[Filler] on Amphy too, should give you something to use vs those nasty steels and rock-types that think they can spoil your fun.

Mmk... Makes sense.

BTW, on Umbreon, instead of Curse (since I think I'd have to re-breed), would there be any other substitute for that...? I was thinking maybe Toxic? It may not boost my Att/Def, but it could at least cause a bit of damage.

 

[JOSHIKINZ_94]

ok then, thanks for the help :). i also have this set for a wall breaking magmortar:

magmortar @ life orb
mild: 60 atk, 252 sp.atk, 196 speed
cross chop
earthquake
fire blast
thunderbolt

any ideas/ suggestions?

 

[Lo~li~Pop]

@ OD

Thanks, but there are few things that I need to address:
1) The Growlithe is a shiny, so that is a "no" on the breeding
2) I have enough heart scales
3) Also you can get heart scales in the underground

The reason why I asked if I can go to the Move Tutor is because some pokemon that was evolved at a later level, then they can't learn that spefic move, even at the tutor, because they could have only gotten that move once they evolved at their right level.

I learned that the hard way with my Cherubi.

Anyway, I was just asking if a Arcanine could learn the move ExtremeSpeed both at level 39 and at the Move Tutor if the Arcanine/Growlithe was evoled?

Also I ment other moves to teach him if I can't get ExtremeSpeed, like as in TM's or from the Move Tutor people.

 

[Opposite Day]

If you evolve it at lvl 39 or higher (such as you would in your case w/ it learning FB at lvl 48), then you'll be able to find the move as well as T-fang at the move relearner, yes.

 

[Mewtrice]

Good Pokemon Moves?

Hey guys Mewtrice here! Well I might as well start posting some where :P! Anyway my question is what do you guys out there think would be the best moves for Gengar and Alakazam to learn??? I have been wondering what the best moves for these Pokemon would be for a while now and I was wondering if some of you out there could help me out?


BTW Im pretty sure this is the right place to post this it is called Strategies and "Movesets".

Anyway I hope some of you can help me out here :)!

 

[Tinhead Bruce]

Erm, so is this for in-game or competitive battling? If it's for in-game... then... yeah...
If however you are wondering for competitive battling, then you're going to need to give us a better description. What positions are these guys taking? Are you using a physical game, or Shoddy? Stuff like that.

 

[.Gamer]

Alakazam is pretty awful, since its Pursuit/Sucker Punch bait. Gengar has a variety of options, but Smogon's analysis is down atm and I don't know any off the top of my head.

 

[Mewtrice]

Moves that make them hard to beat in a battle K?

BTW Alakazam is the best psychic pokemon I could find.If you know any better tell me please???

Anyone responding?? ima geting old!

 

[.Gamer]

Better Psychics than Alakazam:

Metagross
Jirachi
Celebi
Azelf
Uxie
Mespirit
Bronzong
Latias
Starmie

https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/gengar <---list of movesets and how to use them for Gengar, I can't be arsed with typing it out here, so use that for reference.

 

[crystalvelox]

Gyarados @ Life Orb
EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
-----
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Waterfall
Dragon Dance

On this particular set, what are some counters to watch out for apart from bulky waters like suicune, vaporeon, etc.

Also, if Jolly is used instead of admant, does the drop in attack after a single DD mess up my ability to OHKO/2HKO pokemon with stealth rock damage applied?

 

[Ev Trainer X]

Does anyone know where I can get doubles teams rated, since no one here is doubles savvy?

 

[Fire Wolf]

Gyarados @ Life Orb
EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
-----
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Waterfall
Dragon Dance

On this particular set, what are some counters to watch out for apart from bulky waters like suicune, vaporeon, etc.

Also, if Jolly is used instead of admant, does the drop in attack after a single DD mess up my ability to OHKO/2HKO pokemon with stealth rock damage applied?

Celebi is a good counter to any Gyarados set as far as it doesn't carry Bounce.

A question: Who are the best SD Drapion counters in UU?

 

[JadeX]

A Steelix ?
A SD Drapion won't be able to kill off Steelix that fast and able to attack back .
Though I'm not sure if this could be called a counter .

Quakesire seemed Bulky enough to withstand SD Drapion's attack too .

Was thinking of a Fighting pokemon in UU that is bulky enough at first .
Hariyama or Hitmontop . But nah , Drapion could still finish them on unless they invest heavily in their defense (which stops them from able to attack well) and they're slow .

Anyway , I've got something to ask .
Above which base speed , would the pokemon with Choice Scarf able to outspeed Dragon Dancers ?
I'm finding someone that is able to strike faster against DD Gyrados or Salamence .
Thanks

 

[Fire Wolf]

Steelix isn't a counter to Drapion, it's 2HKOed by a +2 Earthquake. Same for Quagsire, it's OHKO'ed with a +2 crit Night Slash.