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[Dark Azelf]

Not many Scarfers outspeed Salamence or are good outside of that...Ice Punch Jirachi is prolly the best bet though but its risking a speed tie. Anything else scarfed is Pursuit bait and should be avoided (Starmie, Latias, Gengar, Jolt etc) because relying on those for your defense is really bad.

The better way in dealing with DD Mence is is fitting something like Scizor or even Mamoswine into you teams to deal with it (CB Bullet Punch KO's after SR + one turn of LO recoil) or just simply luring to Outrage into a steel types. Physically Defensive Rest Talk Gyarados can take an Outrage after Intimidate (even with SR up) and OHKO back with Avalanche. Swampert, Cress and Hippowdon also work at full health, Bronzong and (S.Def) Skarmory do amazing too and of course there is P2 (Trace..) and Weavile but those are terrible otherwise.

As of late, ive found CB Nite to be a cool revenge killer of Mence as CB Extremespeed strips over half its health away which is very useful with SR.

Gyarados can just be walled, you dont need a scarfer for that, just slap HP Electric on a random bulky water or use Rotom or W/E lol.

Remember, the more scarfers you have the more stall weak you are lol.

EDIT :

Crits should not be accounted for. So Quagsire IS a counter and so is Steelix if you run the good nature of Relaxed and can KO Drap back with STAB EQ. Fighting types also own it because Drapion kinda cant do much to them. Torterra is useful too, Duggy is is very useful against it too and Donphan makes a decent check.

 

[Fire Wolf]

Do Venusaur and Moltres make good counters to the Drapion counters you listed?

 

[JOSHIKINZ_94]

ok then, thanks for the help :). i also have this set for a wall breaking magmortar:

magmortar @ life orb
mild: 60 atk, 252 sp.atk, 196 speed
cross chop
earthquake
fire blast
thunderbolt

any ideas/ suggestions?

i kinda got skipped lol :D

 

[Orgamon]

I think that the magmortar is quite good however I don't think cross chop is too good =\

 

[.Gamer]

Joshkinz, thats a pretty standard wall-breaking set except most people run Hidden Power [Grass] over Earthquake, but if its on Wi-Fi I suppose EQ could work just was well, because breeding for a specific Hidden Power is a pain.

 

[JOSHIKINZ_94]

ok then thanks for your help :)

 

[Peeky Chew]

My first attempt at making a team which works well together. UU.

Slowing@ Left Overs
Undecided
Calm (+SpD -Atk)
Psychic
Fire Blast
Slack Off
Light Screen

Psychic to hit Fighting types that threaten Umbreon and for Stab. Fire Blast for Bugs. Light Screen is to help it and all of the others.

Umbreon@ Left Overs
Sassy (+SpD -Spe)
252 HP / 4 Atk / 252SpD
Toxic
Wish
Protect
Payback

Standard set, no need to explain it.

Arcanine@ Left Overs
Bold (+Def -Atk)
Flame Thrower
Roar
Hidden Power Ground
Extreme Speed

Flame Thrower for stab and for Steels Umbreon always has problems with. Roar explained at bottom. Since my whole team (so far) is slow, I thought I needed one priority move.

Blastoise@ Left Overs

Bold (+Def -Atk)
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Surf
Rapid Spin
Hidden Power Grass
Protect

General stab and makes Arcanine usable. Rapid Spin for Arcanine too. Hidden Power Grass for... I just realised this entire set is for Arcanine. It also helps Slowing. Protect for exploders, which seem very common right now, and also to check for items.
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For this set I really want a good Stealth Rock lead. And of course there's the other Pokemon, I was thinking of a Rain Dance Ludicolo, since it's fast (after Rain Dance) and also helps Blastoise out.

Comments?

 

[institutions]

I hope this goes here.
Just attempted my first EV training EVER, and want to make sure I did it right.

I started with an Eevee with Pokerus and was going for a 252 SpA / 252 Speed / 4 HP Espeon.
First, I fed it 10 of each vitamin (Sp. Attack raising and Speed raising.)
Now I have 100 SpA / 100 Speed.
I attached a Power Lens to Eevee and fought 19 pidgeys. So thats (+38 Speed) and (+152 SpA).
So now I have 252 SpA / 138 Speed.
Unattached Power Lens and fought 3 Hoothoots. (So +6 HP EVs. Of course only 4 count, though.)
Attached Power Anklet to Eevee and fought 11 more pidgeys (PKRS + Anklet = 10 Speed each)
Now I should be at 252 SpA / 248 Speed / 4 HP.
I took the Power Anklet off and killed 2 more pidgeys (PKRS = 2 EVs each)
So I have 252 SpA / 252 Speed / 4 HP now, right?

Just wanted to make sure I did all this right. I went and got the effort ribbon from the lady to make sure, but idk if I calculated it all to go into the right stats. Especially the random 6 HP EVs from the Hoothoots.

EDIT:
Also, what about a good moveset for it?
I read around and was thinking: Psychic, Shadow Ball, Morning Sun, Grass Knot.

 

[Spike Kintarin]

Okay, I had another couple of questions now that I think about it.

First, what are some of the best movesets for Mewtwo? I'm on the verge of getting my 8th badge in SS in Kanto, and am eager to get him and just use him for whatever. I mainly want a sweeper/"all powerful" Mewtwo. Any ideas?

Second, if I were to make a team of Eevee evo's, any idea on some of the better movesets for them/where I can find them?

 

[Fire Wolf]

Okay, I had another couple of questions now that I think about it.

First, what are some of the best movesets for Mewtwo? I'm on the verge of getting my 8th badge in SS in Kanto, and am eager to get him and just use him for whatever. I mainly want a sweeper/"all powerful" Mewtwo. Any ideas?

Second, if I were to make a team of Eevee evo's, any idea on some of the better movesets for them/where I can find them?

Mewtwo is pretty versatile. Look here for sets: https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/mewtwo

For eeveelution sets, check the links given below:
https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/vaporeon for Vaporeon
https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/umbreon for Umbreon
https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/jolteon for Jolteon
https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/glaceon for Glaceon
https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/flareon for Flareon
https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/espeon for Espeon
https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/leafeon for Leafeon.

 

[.Gamer]

lengthy quote.

Weezing + Slowking or Weezing + Umbreon would be better, since Slowking/Umbreon are both weak to bug types, albeit uncommon, can still hurt you being able to take out both your walls. and imo, umbreon works better with Curse over Toxic but its to you.

On Arcanine, Hidden Power [Ground] offers no real additional coverage and a bold nature is kinda lol. Run Adamant or Jolly if you want physical or Naive/Hasty if you want mixed. If you have Extremespeed on it, you don't want a -Atk nature. Also, your Arcy has no EVs listed. ^__^

Blastoise is fine to me, but you could wanna put Rest/Sleep Talk/Surf/Rapid Spin for status absorb, unless you are gonna add an absorber in later, in which case the current set works fine.

EDIT: @ Institutions, I'm pretty sure that a Power Lens only gives you a SpAtk EV bonus if you fight a pokemon that gives SpAtk EVs, which Pidgey does not, so you just gained a ton of Speed EVs, no Sp. Atk EVs.

EDIT 2: Also, a good moveset for Espeon is: Trick/Psychic/Grass Knot/Shadow Ball @ Choice Specs (alt. is Life Orb with Calm Mind over Trick)

 

[institutions]

EDIT: @ Institutions, I'm pretty sure that a Power Lens only gives you a SpAtk EV bonus if you fight a pokemon that gives SpAtk EVs, which Pidgey does not, so you just gained a ton of Speed EVs, no Sp. Atk EVs.

EDIT 2: Also, a good moveset for Espeon is: Trick/Psychic/Grass Knot/Shadow Ball @ Choice Specs (alt. is Life Orb with Calm Mind over Trick)

Are you sure? Cause now after every level up I gain 3-5 SpAtk EVs. I thought I read that the power items give the stat no matter what. Like using it against a poke that gives +1 HP EV would mean getting 1 HP EV and 4 SpAtk.

Thanks. I think I'll probably go for the Life Orb/Calm Mind set. It's not even for competitive battling. I just wanna own friends.

 

[.Gamer]

Err, no you are right, sorry. I should do research before posting.

 

[TundraCanine]

Whats the difference?

I've seen a lot of competitive movesets have Curse in them, but Bulk Up does the same thing, just doesn't lower speed. So why not use Bulk Up to raise your Attack and defense without sacrificing speed?

 

[.Gamer]

Some pokemon have access to Bulk Up and not Curse and vise versa.

 

[Ketchup]

Just a quick question that I suppose goes here?

With the STAB, the multiplier is 1.5x. Is this directly applied to the "power" of a move?

For example which move would do more damage from my Prinplup? Metal Claw is 50 power, whereas Aqua Jet is 40 power but should have a 1.5x bonus from STAB. Can I basically read Aqua Jet as having 60 (40*1.5) power in this situation and thus concluding it would be more powerful against a normal pokemon?
Cheers

 

[Opposite Day]

Ketchup, you are entirely right.

 

[Ketchup]

Ketchup, you are entirely right.

cheers for the confirmation mate.

 

[Peeky Chew]

@.Gamer: Uncommon is an understatement. In two years of competitive batling, I have not once been against a Pinsir. I have Heracross, of course, but that's OU anyway. I've got Fire Blast on Slowking, and Arcanine, anyway. I hat Weezing anyway. Umbreon works better with Toxic imo, since while you'recursing up, the person is setting up and not taking Toxic damage. Even with curses, Umbreon dies against most +2 moves anyway.

On Arcanine I'm now running Impish since I wanted a bulky one. I've replaced HP Ground with Will-O-Wisp/Thunder Fang and Flame Thrower with Flare Blitz. So now I have two Special and two Offensive 'mon. I was tired when I posted so forgot the EVs...

Blastoise is mainly there for Spinning, I don't need it to stay in long enough, and if it went to sleep, it (possible) couldn't spin. I think HP Grass helps more and Protect help more.

Reposting with slight edits for more rates.

Slowing@Left Overs
Undecided
Calm (+SpD -Atk)
Psychic
Fire Blast
Slack Off
Light Screen

Psychic to hit Fighting types that threaten Umbreon and for Stab. Fire Blast for Bugs. Light Screen is to help it and all of the others.

Umbreon@Left Overs
Sassy (+SpD -Spe)
252 HP / 4 Atk / 252SpD
Toxic
Wish
Protect
Payback

Standard set, no need to explain it.

Arcanine@Left Overs
Impish (+Def -SpA)
240 HP / 168 Def / 28 SpA / 72 Spe
Will-O-Wisp/Thunder Fang
Flare Blitz
Roar
Extreme Speed

Will-O-Wisp to cripple, or Thunder Fang to get rid of Waters? I can't decide between the two. Flare Blitz for stab and for Steels Umbreon always has problems with. Roar explained at bottom. Since my whole team (so far) is slow, I thought I needed one priority move.

Blastoise@Left Overs

Bold (+Def -Atk)
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Surf
Rapid Spin
Hidden Power Grass
Protect

General stab and makes Arcanine usable. Rapid Spin for Arcanine too. Hidden Power Grass for... I just realised this entire set is for Arcanine. It also helps Slowing. Protect for exploders, which seem very common right now, and also to check for items and if they've been Toxic/Will-O-Wisp.
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For this set I really want a good Stealth Rock lead, what could I use?. And of course there's the other Pokemon.

 

[jirachis_best_friend]

Just a quick question that I suppose goes here?

With the STAB, the multiplier is 1.5x. Is this directly applied to the "power" of a move?

For example which move would do more damage from my Prinplup? Metal Claw is 50 power, whereas Aqua Jet is 40 power but should have a 1.5x bonus from STAB. Can I basically read Aqua Jet as having 60 (40*1.5) power in this situation and thus concluding it would be more powerful against a normal pokemon?
Cheers

Uhh, all of that is truth, but I know for certain abilities it isn't added on to the base power as such. With abilities like 'Technician' which boosts the power of weaker moves (I think either 60 power and below or 50 and below, can't recall) it adds the STAB multiplier after the fact. So if Prinplup had the ability Technician (Which it doesn't, but just for example let's say it does) the Aqua Jet move would first be boosted by Technician and then add the 1.5x STAB. Make sense?