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In that case I'd probably move those SpDef EVs into Def, you have light screen to compensate. Since most outrage user are fully physical you can set up light screen when the switch. Other than that I don't know, i suppose some of that HP could get moved into attack to threaten more on the counterattack, but im guessing survivability is priority #1. Hypnosis over T wave, with gyro ball being half of your offensive you dont wanna slow them down.
 
I keep forgetting I have Gyro. But then again, I do already have Sleep Powder & WoW, so I could forgo Gyro Ball for Earthquake, as I lack a good EQer, and I always feel that they belong.
 
Depends on how dedicated an outrage counter this is. Gyro's generally handier for this purpose, since quite a few outrage users fly. Plus it gets STAB to make up for its lack of coverage. But otherwise EQ's the way forward for better coverage, and i know what you mean- you gotta have an EQer ;)
 
Aquillae said:
I would like to see a D/P McGar set, basically enough EVs for the sub to survive Blissey Ice Beam (standard 104 SpA) and still do damage with FP.
FP for Snorlax too, Shadow Ball for Cress.

Gengar @ ?

Focus Punch
Shadow Ball
Substitute
filler
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I actually had a set for that, it needs a + sp.def nature

Gengar@Expert Belt
58 HP / 60 att / 200 sp.def / 192 SPEED
Gentle Nature (+ SP.DEF, - DEF)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt / HP Ice

104 sp.att Blissey does

Damage: 21.09% - 24.73% to the above spread w/Ice Beam.



Focus Punch does

Damage: 50.56% - 59.52%

to max hp / max def Bold Blissey


and does

Damage: 47.91% - 56.26%

To 168 / 120 def (Curselax) Neutral Snorlax.


Also 36.04% - 42.34% on Max hp / max sp.def + Nature Cresselia w/Shadow Ball, which is not bad, considering the cress spread.



192 speed lets you outspeed all base 100's and neutral Garchomp. If you dont want to be that fast, you can cut it down.





@Sims, those evs look fine, but why Thunderwave when your using Gyro ball lolz. I dont think it can get T-Wave either



I also think you need something to block Machamp, not just Outrages [/Low Blow] Haha ;)
 
Dark_Azelf said:
I actually had a set for that, it needs a + sp.def nature

Gengar@Expert Belt
58 HP / 60 att / 200 sp.def / 192 SPEED
Gentle Nature (+ SP.DEF, - DEF)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt / HP Ice

104 sp.att Blissey does

Damage: 21.09% - 24.73% to the above spread w/Ice Beam.



Focus Punch does

Damage: 50.56% - 59.52%

to max hp / max def Bold Blissey


and does

Damage: 47.91% - 56.26%

To 168 / 120 def (Curselax) Neutral Snorlax.


Also 36.04% - 42.34% on Max hp / max sp.def + Nature Cresselia w/Shadow Ball, which is not bad, considering the cress spread.



192 speed lets you outspeed all base 100's and neutral Garchomp. If you dont want to be that fast, you can cut it down.





@Sims, those evs look fine, but why Thunderwave when your using Gyro ball lolz. I dont think it can get T-Wave either



I also think you need something to block Machamp, not just Outrages [/Low Blow] Haha ;)
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You see, I am sick of getting these moves wrong! I coulda sworn it could learn Thunderwave! Gah! Whelp, time for Hypnosis.

So, those EV's are sound? Good, cause YOU gave em to me! But I needed to see if it stood up to the changes. And yeah, Gofre, I'll try them both out. Gyro Ball may seem superior, but it has less PP, so...


Now I gotta wear a cuff.
 
Alright, I'm in a slight dilemma. I have a standard Mismagius with Shadow Ball, HP Fighting, Calm Mind, and Taunt (Unique, but Bliss fodder and decimates teams not ready for it.) Anyway, I need 1 or 2 good accompanying pokemon to go with it. I'm not searching for anything in particular...just some stuff that partners well with it.
 
Well I'm planning a new team, I want to start with an Agility BP Bulky Zapdos:


Zapdos@Leftovers
252 HP/120 Def/138 Sp.Def
Bold
Thunderbolt
Roost
Agility
Baton Pass

This thing can survive to a CB Gyarados (Max attack) Stone Edge, or the always scary Draco Meteor on a Specsmence. ScarfGar can be a problem, but anyways he won't hurt me and I'll have a cleric in the team in case of a Hypnosys.



So, It this good? Or should I change a little things...?

Edit-Actually ABY, Mismagius will have the same problem that Gengar, he will die to pursuit. T-Tar,Weavile, Metagross and othe pursuit users will be a mess. A pokemon that can deal with them will be good, maybe Heatran or another Steel. Also watch for his low defense, a Physical wall is always welcome.
 
ABYAY said:
Alright, I'm in a slight dilemma. I have a standard Mismagius with Shadow Ball, HP Fighting, Calm Mind, and Taunt (Unique, but Bliss fodder and decimates teams not ready for it.) Anyway, I need 1 or 2 good accompanying pokemon to go with it. I'm not searching for anything in particular...just some stuff that partners well with it.
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heatran covers its dark and Ghost weak, and mismagius covers heatrans fighting and ground weaks.

Something to consider.
 
what level to pokemon learn trump card?
 
Including Slowking. His attack ain't so hot.
 
Oh no, Slowking is good, but no matter who uses it, Trump Card sucks.
 
sims796 said:
Including Slowking. His attack ain't so hot.
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I thought Trump Card was a Special Attack. Nevermind. Also, keep in mind that All the eeveelutions have access to it. This opens some options if it wasn't outdone by most STAB moves. It is almost useless competetively, as you cannot waste PP before a Battle, unlike in-game.

Also, are there any specific EVs for a Mixed wall Bronzong or should I just balance the Stats?
 
Well, whadda know, musta been thinking of Last Resort.
 
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