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crocadilius said:
I know the feeling, but its down to whether people are there to answer the questions or if they know the answers. Basically IV and EV stand for Individual Values and Effort Values. I think IV's are automatically set when the Pokemon is made, but EV's are earned by subjectivley training by fighting certain monsters to gain boosted stats. There is a section somewhere on the forum designated for such discussion, think it might be a sticky so worth checking out. :)

But as for your team building related question, don't think I can help you since I'm a newbie to all this training malarkey myself, hence why I'm here :P You could try and find out what Lanturn is best at statwise then find a nature which helps boost that.

With my Victreebel, would it be worth teaching it Sunny Day to take advantage of its Chlorophyl or have another Pokemon in my team use it, like a tank? It's just the extra speed could come in handy for getting ahead of some speedy Pokemon and shoving something in there to cause some fuss.
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Thank you, I'll try looking for the sticky about IV and EV. And I'll go look up on the stats of a Lanturn. =D
 
I dom't see your question, but I would like to add this. Too many times do I see on these threads that "Ev training adds stat points to your pokemon". That is NOT true. It does NOT add any "extra" EV points. What it does, however, is it allows you to focus your stat points into certain areas.

For example, a Forretress that hasn't been EV trained will have less defense than a Forretress that has been EV trained in defense. However, it may have more Sp.Atk. Why? Because you decide that Sp.Atk is unecessary, thus you remove those EVs & put it in Def, making it stronger in that area. Bringing it closer to the max.
 
Alrighty, I have heard Grumpig referred to as an impenetrable force field, and was wondering if I could get a Grumpig set, seeing as Smogon is not working properly.
 
Heh, it was a joke, but seriously, my Grumpig isvery hard to take down.

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My Grumpig set, tailored for OU

Grumpig@Leftovers
Nature:Calm
Seismec Toss
Psychic
Rest
Reflect
EV:252 HP, 200 Sp.Def, 52 Sp.Atk

In all honesty, those Sp.Atk EV's should be going into defense, but meh. For Seismec Toss, if that is unavailible, you can substitute Focus Blast. He also gets Energy Ball, Shadow Ball, Charge Beam, Calm Mind (harder to play in OU, with Weavile & Ttar running amock),and the gallery of Hidden Powers. Bug would be my favorite for him. BTW, Seismec Toss allows him to better handle Sub users. Reflect helps him escape Pursuiters. I always throw it out as soon an he goes into play. For other support options, he gets Light Screen, great for those pesky Shadow Balls, Thunder Wave, hell, he learns Substitute on his own! What a great pokemon Grumpig is. And one of the best Mixape counters.

I use him best with a Cleric.
 
Well, you guys go on about Deoxy-E and how it should be Naive/Hasty nature to make the most of it's moveset. Anyways, I've made a set for a Jolly natured Deoxys-E. This Speed form is, how should I say it, "different".

Deoxys-E @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Jolly 6HP/252Atk/252Spd
Extremespeed
Super Power
Zen Headbutt
Poison Jab/???
I'm just not sure about that last slot but yeah, this is what I call a Deoxys-E. Anyways, I just thought it may work. Tell me what you think.
 
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Tortured_Soul said:
Weavile@Focus Sash
Hasty
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Fake Out
Taunt
Counter
Night Slash/Ice Punch

I can't decide on the last moveslot, this is meant to be a lead weavile, countering those suicide Focus Sash leads.

~T_S
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Ice Punch should OHKO 6 HP Aerodactyl but you may be inclined to take that out with Counter. Night Slash takes down Gengar, which should help, but Ice Punch gives more coverage in general. Still, prediction is really important, here.
 
~Celebi~ said:
Well, you guys go on about Deoxy-E and how it should be Naive/Hasty nature to make the most of it's moveset. Anyways, I've made a set for a Jolly natured Deoxys-E. This Speed form is, how should I say it, "different".

Deoxys-E @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Jolly 6HP/252Atk/252Spd
Extremespeed
Super Power
Zen Headbutt
Poison Jab/???
I'm just not sure about that last slot but yeah, this is what I call a Deoxys-E. Anyways, I just thought it may work. Tell me what you think.
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Look at that set and ask yourself if it looks good. Poison Jab? No, why is that even being considered? Poison hits nothing. As for Extremespeed, is that actually necessary? Deoxys already outspeeds everything ever- especially with max Speed and a boosting nature.

D-E's physical pool isn't strong- which obviously does not serve him well, given that his moves need to be as strong as possible to make up for that lackluster 95 base Atk/SAtk. Not to mention that he's so much scarier as a mixed sweeper, able to hit many different walls and outspeeding almost every sweeper. He just does mixed sweeping better. :|

Also, Anti thinks he's a good spiker, or something. I'm not really seeing it, but I guess that works too.
 
I was just trying something different. I know he has a shocking movepool, especially for Attack but TM's aren't that good on this guy. I wasn't considering Poison Jab, that's why I asked if there was another move. EQ and SD aren't available so I'm kinda lost. He is bad, but it's something they won't expect. Anyways, it probably belongs in BL with a set like that. lol.
 
I wanna try something novelty, a CB Blissey.

Blissey @ Choice Band
Adamant
252 Att/252 Def/6 HP
Earthquake (Tar and friends)
Focus Punch
???
???

Need some suggestions.
 
King Tyranitar said:
I wanna try something novelty, a CB Blissey.

Blissey @ Choice Band
Adamant
252 Att/252 Def/6 HP
Earthquake (Tar and friends)
Focus Punch
???
???

Need some suggestions.
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I suggest you run Double Edge or Return for physical STAB. I also recommend Flamethrower in the last slot, to deal with Forre and Skarm who would get in the way of CB Bliss.


Also, I need a CB Honchkrow set since Smogon is apparently down.
 
Tortured_Soul said:
Weavile@Focus Sash
Hasty
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Fake Out
Taunt
Counter
Night Slash/Ice Punch

I can't decide on the last moveslot, this is meant to be a lead weavile, countering those suicide Focus Sash leads.

~T_S
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Haha, i love this set im using it myself currently also.

You have to predict spot on or your screwed.

Anyways, i just use Night Slash, i generally find it more useful.

King Tyranitar said:
I wanna try something novelty, a CB Blissey.

Blissey @ Choice Band
Adamant
252 Att/252 Def/6 HP
Earthquake (Tar and friends)
Focus Punch
???
???

Need some suggestions.
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Dancing Salamence 1.1 said:
Also, I need a CB Honchkrow set since Smogon is apparently down.
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I actually prefer Specs Honchkrow.

But anyway..

Honchkrow@Choice Band
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Adamant Nature
- Sucker Punch
- Steel Wing
- Night Slash / Pursuit
- Drill peck

Thats the standard IIrc. Steel wing so, you know, can do something to T-Tar and other rock types, but your still walled hard by steels. Which is the exact reason i prefer specs.

icy Wind/Psychic/Dark Pulse/HP Fight, has better coverage.

airconditioning said:
Also, Anti thinks he's a good spiker, or something. I'm not really seeing it, but I guess that works too.
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Yep Deo is a cool spiker indeed


Deoxys@Leftovers
252 HP / 184 SP.ATT / 72 SPEED
Timid Nature
- Spikes / Stealth Rock
- Recover
- Psychic / Taunt
- Knock off / Taunt



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Anyways, Celebi, Deoxys gets the elemental punches, which is all about it has going for it on the physical side.

Deoxys@Choce Band
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Jolly Nature
- Super Power
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Zen headbutt / Fire Punch


Something like that... ._., blegh.
 
I just found out that the Roselia I used to breed Aromatherapy onto my Blissey has 30 Speed and flawless SAtk (which explains the flawless SAtk on both Blisseys that I bred). What's a good Roserade set?
 
airconditioning said:
I just found out that the Roselia I used to breed Aromatherapy onto my Blissey has 30 Speed and flawless SAtk (which explains the flawless SAtk on both Blisseys that I bred). What's a good Roserade set?
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Roserade@Choice Scarf
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 SP.6 HP
Timid Nature
Trait : natural Cure
- leaf Storm
- Sleep powder
- Sludge Bomb / Shadow Ball / Energy Ball
- Hidden power Ice

Make a great lead. Hidden power Ice is preferable in that last slot so you can revenge kill stuff, but you can put another move from slot 2 there if you dont have access to it.

Roserade@Choice Specs
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 SP.6 HP
Timid Nature
Trait : natural Cure
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden power [Fire/ice]
- Sludge Bomb / Energy Ball / Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb / Energy Ball / Shadow Ball

Same again, If you cant get a Hidden power just slap one of the other moves there from slot 3 or 4.


Roserade@leftovers
252 HP / 252 SPEED / 6 SP.ATT
Timid Nature
Trait : Natural Cure
- Grass Knot
- Hidden power Fire
- Toxic Spikes
- Sleep powder

A 132 SP.att Life Orb starmie can only 3hko this with ice Beam =)

Alternately, you can Focus sash and move all the hp evs into sp.att if you want it as a lead.

Spikes can also go >> Toxic Spikes, but thats Illegal with Sleep powder, so you'll have to resort to the sub par Grass Whistle as your sleep move, Wide Lense or Focus sash may be a good idea with that.
 
Would this be a good movset for a Lanturn.

Lanturn
Modest -ATK/+SP.ATK (or whatever is that stuff that people always put)
Thunder Wave
Aqua Ring/Hydro Pump
Water Pulse/Brine
Discharge
 
Umm...

Lanturn@Leftovers
Calm Nature
EVs: 40 HP, 192 Sp Atk, 240 Sp Def, 36 Spd -OR- 40 HP, 136 Sp Atk, 252 Sp Def, 80 Spd
-Discharge
-Surf
-Confuse Ray
-Ice Beam

Parafusion!!!! Water Pulse is useless when Lanturn gets confuse ray, the same can be said about Discharge, but without Ice Beam grasses laugh.

Anyway first spread is more suited for OU whereas the second is suited for the UU
 
Angelic Diablo said:
Umm...

Lanturn@Leftovers
Calm Nature
EVs: 40 HP, 192 Sp Atk, 240 Sp Def, 36 Spd -OR- 40 HP, 136 Sp Atk, 252 Sp Def, 80 Spd
-Discharge
-Surf
-Confuse Ray
-Ice Beam

Parafusion!!!! Water Pulse is useless when Lanturn gets confuse ray, the same can be said about Discharge, but without Ice Beam grasses laugh.

Anyway first spread is more suited for OU whereas the second is suited for the UU
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Ok, thanks. But I would have to get Ice Beam so it would be a bit difficult. But I can manage teh other moves. I'll try. =D Thanks again.
 
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