Request an Individual Move Set Thread

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Standard "Lead" Machamp runs 160 Attack EVs, giving it a total of 369. I'm assuming that the Bulky Gyara you speak of is the 370 HP/219 Defense version.

(-1) 369 Attack Machamp's Thunder Punch vs. 370 HP/219 Defenses Gyarados: 65.95%-77.84%

With Stealth Rock up, the chance of an OHKO is only 15.38%.

(-1) 369 Attack Machamp's Stone Edge vs. 370 HP/219 Defense Gyarados: 43.78%-51.89%

Even with Stealth Rock up; it will never OHKO.


However, the Choice Band versions is very different;

(-1) 591 Attack Machamp's Thunder Punch vs. 370 HP/219 Defense Gyarados: 104.86%-124.32%

OHKO's 100% of the time.

(-1) 591 Attack Machamp's Stone Edge vs. 370 HP/216 Defense Gyarados: 69.73%-82.16%

With Stealth Rock support, it OHKO's 53.85% of the time.

 

[F-F-Franklin]

Hahaha alright thanks man, I'm using an Anti-Lead Sub champ' with 252/252 hp and atk evs and I wanted to know if I wanted to use stone edge or thunderpunch.


And is Jirachi a better special or physical wall?

 

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Honestly, Anti-Lead Machamp does best with Payback/Ice Punch/Dynamicpunch/Substitute. Gyarados will never willingly take a Dynamicpunch, and the chances of you OHKOing isn't exactly great.

 

[F-F-Franklin]

Well, I really need some more support on killing Gyarados, and I usually hate using something like Payback, because the only thing that that uses anything needing payback is Gengar or Azelf, so I'm setting up another pokemon (celebi worked great before the platinum version of scizor came out) to switch it out on, and no one predicts right at the start of the game, so I think I'm good there.

And also, I've been using the same standard pokemon movesets/evs and I've failed with it, and I need to be more adjusted to my battling style.

 

[Archer]

hi,does this set work for donphan

Donphan@the berry that raises attack
adamant nature
sturdy
atk252/def252/spD or HP 6
iceshard
stoneedge
earthquake
endure

i need to know if this wood work for the battle tower.if say kecleon endures a hit and salacberry activates, then if kecleon kills the foe and wins the fight,when kecleon goes into the next fight does salac berry come back

Thanx :D

oh yeh almost forgot,that tyranitar setshould work as ttars special atk is not that bad
thanx again

That is completely inferior to CBPhan. Oh and the berries do come back, yes.

 

[Dark Azelf]

I honestly dont get what Anti Lead machamp acomplishes, like every lead still sets up on it apart from t-tar lol


Sub/Encore/D-Punch/ <Random Attack> is a MUCH MUCH better set. Use the standard ev's too as they allow for some endurance. Although you can use some speed evs if you want.

 

[Keyaki]

Nature: Naiive

EV: 24Att/252SpAtt/232Spd

Ability: Blaze

Item: Life Orb

Attacks:
Flamethrower
Grass Knot
Close Combat
Nasty Plot/HP Ice

I just thought of something, what if i replace HP Ice with Stone Edge instead?

 

[Dark Azelf]

I just thought of something, what if i replace HP Ice with Stone Edge instead?

Nope, stone edge really doesnt warrant a moveslot, what do you need it for ? Grass Knot 2hko's Gyarados and OHKO's most Gyarados after a NP. Mence gets OHKO'd with HP ice and OHKO's with SR up with a NP Flamethrower.

 

[Keyaki]

Nope, stone edge really doesn't warrant a move slot, what do you need it for ? Grass Knot 2hko's Gyarados and OHKO's most Gyarados after a NP. Hence gets OHKO'd with HP ice and OHKO's with SR up with a NP Flamethrower.

and SR is what again?

I just thought just in case my IVs for Infernape wont result in Ice HP ( My infernos HP on Diamond is Bug :/)

Grass Knot 2hko's Gyarados

Just what you said by that, 2HKO after the first hit gyarados could come back and hit with an Hydro Pump or something

 

[Lalapizzame]

and SR is what again?

I just thought just in case my IVs for Infernape wont result in Ice HP ( My infernos HP on Diamond is Bug :/)



Just what you said by that, 2HKO after the first hit gyarados could come back and hit with an Hydro Pump or something

SR is Stealth Rock, does 25% to Gyarados and Mence if they switch in. Gyarados does not EVER use Hydro Pump unless it's Specs, Waterfall from a 125 Base Atk is stronger than a Hydro Pump from 60 Base SpA

 

[Keyaki]

SR is Stealth Rock, does 25% to Gyarados and Mence if they switch in. Gyarados does not EVER use Hydro Pump unless it's Specs. Waterfall from a 125 Base Atk is stronger than a Hydro Pump from 60 Base SpA

hmmmmmmmmmmm, i see

And how about Muscle Band for Starpator? Is that a little better than Choice Band, because Choice Band's Move lock effect sort-of .........turns me :/

 

[Lalapizzame]

hmmmmmmmmmmm, i see

And how about Muscle Band for Starpator? Is that a little better than Choice Band, because Choice Band's Move lock effect sort-of .........turns me :/

10% boost is utter garbage, any time. Use Life Orb if you insist on versatility, gives a 30% boost at the cost of 10% HP, Staraptor isn't even meant to be bulky anyway.

 

[Keyaki]

alright now something else

Nope, stone edge really doesnt warrant a moveslot, what do you need it for ? Grass Knot 2hko's Gyarados and OHKO's most Gyarados after a NP. Mence gets OHKO'd with HP ice and OHKO's with SR up with a NP Flamethrower.

meant to do this in the last post, i want my Infernape to be as mixed as a mixed sweeper can be, and i heard from other guides about wifi competitive battling, and it said that Stone Edge is a considerable move :/

Also, i still need help with choosing my last 2 Pokemon, I'm thinking i need a good Water type but the last Pokemon i don't know :/

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

alright now something else



meant to do this in the last post, i want my Infernape to be as mixed as a mixed sweeper can be, and i heard from other guides about wifi competitive battling, and it said that Stone Edge is a considerable move :/

Also, i still need help with choosing my last 2 Pokemon, I'm thinking i need a good Water type but the last Pokemon i don't know :/

What, you really shouldn't trust that they know what they're talking about.

Sure, Infernape can run a lot of moves, but THE BEST one runs Nasty Plot, Close Combat, Grass Knot (or HP Ice), and Flamethrower. It lets him kill off the most walls.

 

[Keyaki]

What, you really shouldn't trust that they know what they're talking about.

Sure, Infernape can run a lot of moves, but THE BEST one runs Nasty Plot, Close Combat, Grass Knot (or HP Ice), and Flamethrower. It lets him kill off the most walls.

I know, i know

I don't trust 100% ,it's just that i really wanna get good at Wifi battling so im open to any and all info i can get my little hands on *washes hands*



Okay so what about this:

nature: Jolly

Item: Left Overs

EV: undecided

Ability: Swift Swim

Attacks:
Ice Beam
Aqua Tail
undecided
undecided

 

[Lalapizzame]

I know, i know

I don't trust 100% ,it's just that i really wanna get good at Wifi battling so im open to any and all info i can get my little hands on *washes hands*



Okay so what about this:

nature: Jolly

Item: Left Overs / Life Orb

EV: undecided

Ability: Swift Swim

Attacks:
Ice Beam
Aqua Tail
undecided / Rain Dance
undecided / Crunch

Waterfall is nice if you don't want to miss and only lose 10 BP... Consider LO if you want more power. I won't chance Ice Beam but if you want to keep it, chance the nature to Naive, Jolly just weakens Ice Beam. Rain Dance abuses Swift swim too btw, Crunch helps with Cresselia problems.

 

[Keyaki]

Crunch helps with Cresselia problems.

true, true

Consider LO if you want more power

uh, heh heh i don't think i you can get multiple Life Orbs in Platinum :/

So Floatzel is more of a Physical Sweeper?

EDIT: What about Thunderpunch for Infernape?

 

[Xebelleon]

I am raising a Donphan for myself. It has been EV wiped.

~I would like an EV spread for Donphan
~I would like an item suggestion/(s)
~I'll consider moveset edits

Donphan (m) @ Impish
EV's: none, as yet
Sturdy
~Endeavor
~Ice Shard
~Earthquake
~Knock Off

~H.o.t Dawn~

 

[Lalapizzame]

I am raising a Donphan for myself. It has been EV wiped.

~I would like an EV spread for Donphan
~I would like an item suggestion/(s)
~I'll consider moveset edits

Donphan (m) @ Impish
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk OR 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def if you choose CB
Sturdy
~Endeavor / Stealth Rock / Stone Edge for CB
~Ice Shard
~Earthquake
~Knock Off

~H.o.t Dawn~

The EV spread really depends on if you want bulky or Choice Band Donphan. Stealth Rock is a must and so is Rapid Spin for bulky ones. CB can go Stone Edge for more coverage.

 

[Detox]

hows this for a probopass?

probopass @ leftovers
impish
252 def, 200 hp ,52 sp. def

thunder wave
explosion
earth power
gravity

im really unexpierenced with this thing so i know this set should be crap...