5th Gen Team Plasma Discussion Thread

Other than the shadow triad (since they've sworn to be loyal to him), I don't think I can really see anyone from Plasma sticking with Ghetsis. We can gather that a majority of them were part of Team Plasma because they were either intimidated into it, or because they were moved by one of Ghetsis's speeches on Pokémon liberation and agreed with the cause. I'd assume they'd find out that Ghetsis's motives were entirely selfish and had nothing to do with liberating them considering what happened with Team Rocket's downfall and how it spread cross-regions.
 
I'm hoping mainly just for cameos and not a major role in the storyline. I'm not entirely sure Kyurem is being motivated by an evil team and might be acting out on its own. I'm sure there will be an evil team in some capacity but I think their work will be going on at the same time as Kyurem's plan.
 
Patchisou Yutohru said:
Other than the shadow triad (since they've sworn to be loyal to him), I don't think I can really see anyone from Plasma sticking with Ghetsis. We can gather that a majority of them were part of Team Plasma because they were either intimidated into it, or because they were moved by one of Ghetsis's speeches on Pokémon liberation and agreed with the cause. I'd assume they'd find out that Ghetsis's motives were entirely selfish and had nothing to do with liberating them considering what happened with Team Rocket's downfall and how it spread cross-regions.
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I agree with this. Most of Team Plasma were loyal to N more than Ghetsis and the Seven Sages, dispite them being more higher up in authority (with N being the leader of course). And since the original BW saw the Triad following Ghetsis and all four currently on the run, the rest of the Sages locked up, and most of the grunts disbanded, I highly doubt Team Plasma as a whole will be making a grand return.
 
It would be wonderful if Ghetsis returned with the Shadow Triad (and maybe even some sages) and instead of an evil organization that has to be dealt with, we'd have to deal with just a few members of the broken Plasma team.
 
I think with every Pokémon game there must be an evil team so if there is no Team Plasma then surely another will return/be introduced.
 
I see N coming back at the very end of the game leading his own team to fight the villains in a moment similar to the Gym Leaders fighting the 7 sages. N would have a small part, but it would be sweet.

as for who the villains would be?
a band of diglet thieves known as The Band of Diglet Thieves! ... ?
 
I really want N to take a huge part in these sequels. After all, GameFreak pretty much left us at a cliffhanger at the end of B/W. We need a final answer and these games should give us that. N is pretty epic anyway! All I need to see is Team Plasma, N, and Ghetsis's last plans and actions all foil within these games. It's like a book. You just can't end one with a climax and give the main conflicts a small role in the sequel.
 
I could def see N coming back as an ally to the player character, and Ghetsis returning as well, creating factions between the remains of Team Plasma. I really like the idea of a struggle and showdown between N and Ghetsis!
 
I'm going to agree with the possibility of a split Plasma. As for the only the Shadow Triad being loyal to him thing, keep in mind that it's been two years and Ghetsis could have easily gained more followers.

The supposed evil!Professor, for starters
 
I can see N trying to take down Team Plasma in B2/W2 with the player's help. I also think Akuroma is evil and may be connected to Team Plasma in some way.
 
redjacketalchemist said:
I'm going to agree with the possibility of a split Plasma. As for the only the Shadow Triad being loyal to him thing, keep in mind that it's been two years and Ghetsis could have easily gained more followers.

The supposed evil!Professor, for starters
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Or people from whatever region he ran off to, that was so far away that they didn't get news of his escape so had no reason not to trust his words.
 
You know, I was thinking about it and N seems like a pretty believable guy. Team Plasma did get people of Unova to think about their Pokémon, so what if (to give people a new villainous team as mentioned), N got a hold of people to join his side in whatever he believes in now, as well as revenge against Ghetsis? Team Plasma seems more connected with Ghetsis too, so they could be on his side. I think that would be a fair situation as well.
 
But would revenge on the villain in the previous game be really "villainous"?

Although they could teach a lesson with that, in that revenge is wrong even if the person is terrible and stuff, if they chose to get really deep about it. But considering the twist at the end of B/W I feel like they're not ready for deep lessons just yet.

Edit: or you do mean Ghetsis is still the villain I'm confused :(
 
Toujours said:
But would revenge on the villain in the previous game be really "villainous"?

Although they could teach a lesson with that, in that revenge is wrong even if the person is terrible and stuff, if they chose to get really deep about it. But considering the twist at the end of B/W I feel like they're not ready for deep lessons just yet.

Edit: or you do mean Ghetsis is still the villain I'm confused :(
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As in - Ghetsis still wants to control over Unova and plans to get N on his side once more. He would even hope to get N's team members to join, creating one villainous group. It's hard to say what I want N to do in this situation though. :( N would be the ally, though.
 
Well how about this. After the last battle. You have to track down Kyreum,because Ghetsis was actually just controling it and not capture it,so we have to destory whatever is destroying it and Kyreum goes on a rampage and the only way to stop it,calm it down and get the ice to unfreeze is to capture it ourselves.

I for one want to de in a double or even triple battle with N and my rival on my side.
 
N vs. Ghetsis would be a great story line element. Through his travels over the past two years, N relaizes how much the world differs from what Ghetsis taught him and realizes that he was only being used as a pawn. So when Ghetsis returns to finish his plans, N catches wind of it, heads back to Unova, and joins you in stopping him.

Of course, whether Ghetsis can even revive Team Plasma in the first place depends on whether the Unovan populace was made aware of Team Plasma's plans throughout the events of the first games. If there were full news reports on the situation, I'd imagine it would be tough for a resurrected Plasma to gain support. But if everything regarding them was kept all secret, then their resurgence becomes a very real possibility.

Now, whether the Shadow Triad returns... that's a big question mark I couldn't even begin to speculate on, lol
 
Kaori said:

As in - Ghetsis still wants to control over Unova and plans to get N on his side once more. He would even hope to get N's team members to join, creating one villainous group. It's hard to say what I want N to do in this situation though. :( N would be the ally, though.
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Don't think N would fall for that :x Ghetsis is better off recruiting individual members from Plasma if anything than N himself.
 
Perhaps Ghetsis gathers members from the Isolated parts of Unova (the new areas) who know little to nothing about what occured in the Pokemon league two years ago.
I would also like to have a double match with N as an ally but who would Ghetsis team up with? Most likely if we were to team up it'll be against the Shadow triad.
Ps; I can see The new Plasma castle being made out of ice, like an ice palace to fit with the icy theme.
 
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