The Best Overall Team (Unofficial)

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The Chatot Pirate said:
We need Tangrowth. Tangrowth as status inflictor/wall, he can take Ice Punch/Fang easily. The REAL issue here is if Nape serves more purpose than Weavile, and it depends, Weavile can take down so many Pokemonn with its hugely diverse moveset, but Nape has the aspect of being mixed and also defying ice. Nape gets my vote, as well as Garchomp because we need speed.
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Tanrowth is okay, but keep in mind, he's a oe-type Pokemon. Even with his high def, a Infernape with a Life Orb would BBQ him with Flare Blitz.

As for the speedy choice, I'd go for the Hoenn heroes Sceptile and Manectric. Weavile will fall easily to fighting types, but single types like the mentioned above can hold their own in battle, especially if they have a few different type moves with them.
 
jb0000612 said:
Tanrowth is okay, but keep in mind, he's a oe-type Pokemon. Even with his high def, a Infernape with a Life Orb would BBQ him with Flare Blitz.

As for the speedy choice, I'd go for the Hoenn heroes Sceptile and Manectric. Weavile will fall easily to fighting types, but single types like the mentioned above can hold their own in battle, especially if they have a few different type moves with them.
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Megnetric isnt as speedy as Gengar who we currently have , Sceptile is but it brings nothing to the team.




Also read the thread, the current team is

Bronzong Wall/Status Inflictor (W/Hypnosis and Reflect, this makes an awesome lead)
Donphan Physical Wall/Rapid Spinner
Blissey Special Wall
Gengar Sp. Sweeper
Mixed Infernape Mixed Sweeper (Quite Speedy)
Scarf Garchomp Phy.Sweeper/ Revenge Killer.


Also we have enough status infliction with Bronzong with Hypnosis and Blissey with thunderwave and our Physical wall is Bronzong (to some extent) and Donphan, so Tangrowth is not really needed.
 
jb0000612 said:
Tanrowth is okay, but keep in mind, he's a oe-type Pokemon. Even with his high def, a Infernape with a Life Orb would BBQ him with Flare Blitz.

As for the speedy choice, I'd go for the Hoenn heroes Sceptile and Manectric. Weavile will fall easily to fighting types, but single types like the mentioned above can hold their own in battle, especially if they have a few different type moves with them.
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No offense at all when I say this. You have (decent) poke knowledge, but your strategy is..,ehhhh.

Why I say this? Well Tangrowth can indeed take a Flare Blitz, espscially with that berry. Plus, we have 3 others who can rough up any Infernape. Just cause its solo-typed, doesn't make it bad. Second, Manectric is not as good as other speedsters. And as Dark Azlelf said, Sceptile is great, but does nothing for this team. 3rd, and most importantly, despite Weavile's fragility (yes, I can make up words), it is SO fast, SO strong, & SO diverse, it can rip apart teams not prepared. You will do well to never EVER underestimate Weavile.
 
sims796 said:
No offense at all when I say this. You have (decent) poke knowledge, but your strategy is..,ehhhh.

Why I say this? Well Tangrowth can indeed take a Flare Blitz, espscially with that berry. Plus, we have 3 others who can rough up any Infernape. Just cause its solo-typed, doesn't make it bad. Second, Manectric is not as good as other speedsters. And as Dark Azlelf said, Sceptile is great, but does nothing for this team. 3rd, and most importantly, despite Weavile's fragility (yes, I can make up words), it is SO fast, SO strong, & SO diverse, it can rip apart teams not prepared. You will do well to never EVER underestimate Weavile.
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Not indeed take a Flare Blitz sims. Complete Physical Infernapes can almost 2HKO Tangrowth with Flare Blitz. I think it even can, its a fact, a true fact.
Manectric... nope only 105 speed, Gengar gives you the edge even on that one easily. Sceptile is an often Subseeder/ChoiceScarf/Specs Pokemon, and yep I love the Weavile ^^
 
Dark_Azelf said:
We have infernape already


The Current team is

Bronzong Wall/Status Inflictor (W/Hypnosis and Reflect, this makes an awesome lead)
Donphan Physical Wall/Rapid Spinner
Blissey Special Wall
Gengar Sp. Sweeper
Mixed Infernape Mixed Sweeper (Quite Speedy)
Scarf Garchomp Phy.Sweeper
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Yes, Garchomp is autimatically part of our team because you said so..........Dragonite is still very much part of this picture.

A DDnite>>Scarfed Garchomp IMO. Why, because that may make Garchomp insanely fast but if it can't finish something off it's a goner, as well it's inability to change moves without switching could hurt if on the wrong move.

Nothing against Choice Items, they're very valuable as everyone knows but when you have the option of DDnite why not take it.

It's bulkyness alows it to DD a couple times, which can add to it's alrady amazing attack while boosting it's speed to a very respectable level. DDnite vs. Garchomp straight on equals a loss for Dragonite, but for fitting in with the rest of the team, I like Dragonite. Unlike all our other team's this one isn't down on it's knee's begging for speed.

Of course, I can definately understand if everyone else like Garchomp better. I guess that leaves the vote a 1 to 1. That's the way Vainz wants it done.
 
I vote DDnite. I honestly think garchomp is way overrated, Mence and Nite are better IMO. IF we use garchomp, I'd rather not use scarfchomp anyways.

EDIT: It was mentioned earlier weavile falls to any strong physical hit...and sceptile and manectric don't? And tangrowth DOES take flare blitz...and can knock off the life orb...
 
I vote DDnite.

It must be noted that Chomp are immune to electric attacks, making it immune to Thunderwave. Handy indeed.
 
sims796 said:
I vote DDnite.

It must be noted that Chomp are immune to electric attacks, making it immune to Thunderwave. Handy indeed.
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Flygon! Flygon! Flygon! Sorry about that...my underdog madness got ahold of me there. Really, dragonite can even use special attacks pretty darn well, and has a nice movepool. The only thing Chomp has over it is SD...that's it movepool-wise. After 1-2 DDs, Nite is near unstopable, ESPECIALLY if you have fire blast for sakrm patrol. IT's like a miracle. Why people don't use Dnite much...why? While my opinion IS biased, I do have battling results to back it up for once Besides, there's always that hint of unpredictability with Dnite Chomp doesn't have.
 
The Chatot Pirate said:
DDNITE! Garchomp is one, ugly, and two, has a less diverse movepool and is taken down by Skarmbliss in twenty seconds flat in most cases.
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No... Garchomp is now used with Fire Blast making a SkarmBliss counter :\

Garchomps not ugly, it's awesome XD

Garchomp@Focus Sash/Life Orb
Trait : Sand Veil
Moves :
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance/Stone Edge
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw/Dragon Rush

Excellent sweeper Chomp. Focus Sash is better preferred from me due to Sandstream resistances.
 
First off, Chomp is ugly.

As I said, he is immune to T-wave, something that MUST be considered.
 
Oops, forgot about that. Mind Wipe of Pokemon Strategies over week-long absense. DDnite can use both type with more skill though. He can pull EQ TP DD and Fire Blast and finish off with a grin. The Thiunder Wave resistance is a good thing also. They both have good choices, and even though I dont liek Garchomp, he IS a more suitable choice.
 
How is he in any way more suitable, they both work out the same. And last time I checked the vote's were 4-2 (of course some second opinion's seem to be flaoting in the air.) Donphan also Thunderwave resistant. And most pokes with TW are pretty predictable.
 
Still, don't ever count out that resistant. Can Nite boast being immune to electric? Not at all. Don't get me wrong, I still vote Nite, but don't disregard Chomp's strenghts. Sure, T-wave/bolt are predictable, but I cleared quite a few matches by fooling people, gettting them to think the standards.
 
Dragonite is slow. It needs to at least get in one DDance if it wishes to outrun anything thats a threat to it.


Revenge killer Scarf Garchomp outruns adamant Tyranitar after two Dragon Dances, Jolly Electivire after a motor drive boost, it outruns Jolly Weavile, Timid Jolteon and a whole other host of foes that will cause problems otherwise.


We need something that can take those out.

Its this if we are still using it or interested.


Garchomp@Choice Scarf
Lonely Nature
252 ATT / 224 SPEED / 32 SP.DEF
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Fire Blast
- Stone Edge / Crunch

Alternatively, you could just max speed to tie at worse with other Garchomps.

However its probably up to votes at the end of the day. Im not discounting Dragonite by any means.

Mr.May16 said:
Yes, Garchomp is autimatically part of our team because you said so..........Dragonite is still very much part of this picture.
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I actually only said this to inform jb0000612 of what the current team was as he suggested Magnetric and Sceptile for some reason and was not intended to reflect what the final team set in stone was, and we were also discussing the Dragonite vs Garchomp matter shortly before the website was down and i thought Garchomp won.However I didnt discount Dragonite by any means.
 
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I might change my vote to Chomp.
 
Outrage lures Steelix/Skarmory out O_o completely defeating the point of Outrage. It should ONLY be used under some Swords Dances ONLY. It's like using Hyper Beam on Porygon-Z :\
 
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Outrage lures Steelix/Skarmory out O_o completely defeating the point of Outrage. It should ONLY be used under some Swords Dances ONLY. It's like using Hyper Beam on Porygon-Z :\
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Its for late game sweeps only and should not be used otherwise (when Skarmory and Steelix are dead). I put Dragon Claw initially and then edit it in when i read smogon.

Actually Hyper Beam after a Nasty Plot can OHKO a Max Hp/306 SP.DEF Blissey if Porygon is holding a life Orb lol
 
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