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The Legend of Zelda

Dawn Defect said:
So why does this game get so much hate but has such high reviews such as a 10/10 from IGN, 4.5/5 from Metacritic and 9.5/10 from Destructoid?

It seems kinda weird that many companies think the game is good but many other people dislike it.
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Skyward Sword did a lot right - dungeons, item upgrades, motion controls, music, dungeon-like overworld, etc. Heck, I even like the stamina bar! lol

But the game is soulless. It is empty. It feels like Spirit Tracks. Something is missing though I can't place my finger on it. You have one main town, and while flying is enjoyable... there's nothing to fly too. Just barren islands. It's like The Wind Waker but feels worse. More nothingness. Nothing to look at besides clouds.

With nothing to see and no NPCs to interact with, it's just... meh. Plus the overworld (belowground) division sucks. I'd rather it all be connected that flying around as a map selector
 
I don't think I could bring myself to watch that video. I guess my bias kicks in since Ocarina of Time is one of my favorite Zelda games, ranking 3rd on my overall top 10, in fact. But I don't think my little black heart could take a ripping of it. As much stock as I put into games, whether praises or even criticisms, I don't think a game or series deserves so much critique like in that video. I can't justify putting that much stock into reviewing a game with such harsh criticism in a serious manner. For laughs, sure, I could understand and I've ranted about bad games to be funny plenty of times, but not something like seriously ripping at it.

tl;dr Games were meant to enjoy. A serious rant and rip of a beloved game and even series is just something I'm personally not into watching. Just play the game. If you love it, great. If not, that's that.
 
Triforce, I think it was the horrible gameplay/environment segregation that ruined the games. You have this really limited means of traversal for the player and everyone else, yet you are the only one seen using it. Sure, you didn't see travelers in the other games, but its a huge wide field in most cases, you can assume that they're just out of sight. In ST and SS? Nope, it just doesn't work.Anyway, love the series to death. Grew up with the games, and I'm probably going to play them until the last one.
Personally, my favorite has to be TP. People are far too quick to judge this game. The structure might be similar to OoT, but the story is far from the same. Zelda never really needs saving, the companion is the real star with the hero being their tool, and the plot mcguffins are far more interesting. While the Master Sword does pop up in the middle after three dungeons, its only out of neccessity and not because of your goal for the first act. And unlike OoT, you go on the second act quest not to gain access to Hyrule Castle, but to gain access to the cause of everything. Hyrule Castle, much like the Master Sword were consequential events, and not direct effects of your actions. Its much better then what LttP and OoT did in terms of story, much like SS.
Speaking of LttP, I think TP is more like it then OoT. Sure, OoT follows the same plot, but the parallels are more apparent in TP. Saving a princess from the sewer prisons, Usuper/Wizard being controlled by Ganon, forest location for the MS, its all very similar.
As for SS, the game easily comes after MM for me. Interesting characters, excellent plot(the 3 act structure was amazing, don't tell me it wasn't), and the overall effect the game has on the series is enough for me to hold it in such a spot. Those final hours from the final dungeon, to the last shot of the game are easily the best final hours in the series. However, like T89 said, its missing something. Which may/may not be what I opened this post with.
I do not want to go through a list war, but my rankings have to be:
2D Zelda's
OoS/OoA
MC
LttP
LA
ALBW
ST
PH
Z1=Z2

3D Zelda's
TP
MM
SS
OoT=WW
 
Jak said:
I don't think I could bring myself to watch that video. I guess my bias kicks in since Ocarina of Time is one of my favorite Zelda games, ranking 3rd on my overall top 10, in fact. But I don't think my little black heart could take a ripping of it. As much stock as I put into games, whether praises or even criticisms, I don't think a game or series deserves so much critique like in that video. I can't justify putting that much stock into reviewing a game with such harsh criticism in a serious manner. For laughs, sure, I could understand and I've ranted about bad games to be funny plenty of times, but not something like seriously ripping at it.

tl;dr Games were meant to enjoy. A serious rant and rip of a beloved game and even series is just something I'm personally not into watching. Just play the game. If you love it, great. If not, that's that.
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The video isn't actually as bad as you may think. The major points he likes to make essentially are 1.) how most of the attack patterns of enemies have no difficulty to them because the difficulty is just an illusion made by how long you fight them 2.) there truly aren't any puzzles in them and 3.) there isn't really this sense of adventure in the game like in the first LoZ. I'm a huge fan of Ocarina of Time and even though the comedian had some good points and opened my eyes a little bit, I still love OoT. It's perfectly alright to hear criticism for a game and still like it; I know I did! The video isn't necessarily a rant like some people might think; rather, it's just an interesting point of view that not a lot of people have really taken about a beloved game. It's not like he just randomly throws insults to the game, but rather he takes a pretty close analysis of the game which puts it in an interesting new light.

Sorry if that was too long, I'm typing this from my phone and have real sense of longevity haha.
 
What is your favourite LoZ species/'race'?

By that I mean the Gorons, Zoras, Gerudo, Kookoris, etc, etc. Is there a specific type of species you liked the most? I for one tend to enjoy the Gerudos, since they have pretty interesting backstory in LoZ OoT, aha. But still, I like the Gorons too! They're all about family and brotherhood; makes you feel right at home. <33
 
Dragon said:
What is your favourite LoZ species/'race'?

By that I mean the Gorons, Zoras, Gerudo, Kookoris, etc, etc. Is there a specific type of species you liked the most? I for one tend to enjoy the Gerudos, since they have pretty interesting backstory in LoZ OoT, aha. But still, I like the Gorons too! They're all about family and brotherhood; makes you feel right at home. <33
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I'm a big fan of the Korok and Rito from Wind Waker. I just love those little guys and the Rito were always neat to me, but it might be because of their music. :) Besides them, I love the Zora. The Domain was always a favorite locale of mine from Majora's Mask.
 
Klippy said:
I'm a big fan of the Korok and Rito from Wind Waker. I just love those little guys and the Rito were always neat to me, but it might be because of their music. :) Besides them, I love the Zora. The Domain was always a favorite locale of mine from Majora's Mask.
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They've got the jiggling fever hehehe

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I like the Twili, the Gerudos, the Sheikah, the Zora, the Rito, and the Terminans. I don't know if Skull Kids are a race separate from the Kokiri , but if it is then add them to the list as well.
 
I think the Rito have always been my favorite race in Zelda. I like how they evolved from the Zoras of OoT (or at least it's implied) and let's not forget the kick ass music on Dragon Roost Island where they reside. That being said, I also like the Zoras, especially from TP. They're gorgeous and so is the place they live.

Noticed no one has mentioned the Ooca. Strange race, but I think they're unique. Like with the other races I like, I think their domain is great, but it definitely outclasses Zora's Domain and Dragon Roost Island. Even that catchy music, yes. The atmosphere they live in is breathtaking and even more so is the thought of how armless bird-people made it so.
 
I seem to have more interest in the Gorons than the other races/species in the Zelda series, though the ancient robots from Lanayru Desert follow second, if they even count as races.

So I came across this Zelda video a couple of weeks ago, and I wanted to share you guys to hear your overall thoughts on this risky claim:

 
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