The new Alola region!

BadSheep said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvl9bjTg4jU

According to this video, there is also a similar looking purple portal over the Sinnoh region like the one over the USUM Alola region. Its probably a coincidence, but it is at least a tiny bit of evidence that either hints to Sinnoh remakes or hints towards traveling to Kanto in USUM.
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It is either coincidence or hints to a sinnoh remakes. We are not going to Kanto again aside from GS virtual console post game.
 
What looks suspicious to me is that below Poni Island in at least one spot it looks like there's land underneath the giant cloud. I couldn't tell you how much land specifically, but you can see what looks like a shoreline, and that wasn't there before in S/M's map. So maybe there IS something more there we just... can't see it yet. You can also see a boat trail being covered up, which looks kinda suspicious considering I doubt they'd cover up something as minor as a boat. But don't quote me on this. This is just speculation on my part and I could be wrong.
 
IcyIce said:
Most people have pointed out things, that I could spot. But there are a few new things. Ones known though are:

Volcano's are no longer smoking on Akala.
Brooklet Hill is dry.
The rift which there is almost no doubt in Ultra Space.
Water in the garden on Big Island is dry. Or some is.

Others things I see are these things:
~ School of Wailords of Wishiwashi just south of Akala.
~ There is a new beach with a building or cave on Akala Island, just north of the port building.
~ Multiple buildings have different color roofs.
~ There is a new building on the beach on the east side of Big Island.
~ The water at the Lake of Moon/Sun is dry
~ The Islands are larger on the Northside of Melemele in the hidden area that we get to from a cave.
~ New beach area with a cave or something on Melemele that is behind the Hotel.
~ There is a new building in the main city on Melemele where the empty spot was.


That is all the changes I can see. However, I will say that a lot of the "dry spots" where water was could be them trying to depict the color of the water in a sunset and it could just look dry. I think the only really dry spot currently in Brooklet Hill, even though I think there is water still there. If it was dry, it would be all that light grey color, but there is a color difference.. And although I can see the Garden thing, I don't know why only half would be gone, especially when it goes in like a circle.
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The larger islands and the dried up water in some locations is making me think that the sea level in Alola is dropping.
 
Looks like 4chan noticed something with that forest in the trailer.
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Daily reminder this is Kartana's Ultra Space

The litlle orange dot is obviously Kartana, its glowing and moving when you watch the trailer. Kartana is grass Pokemon, this is a grass area with leaves looking like Kartana. Not to mention its a very small Pokemon so GF chose it to show in the trailer because its hard to spot.

Such a chinese forrest area is nowhere to be found in SM or on the USUM map

These people are probably just fallers. Remember how for a while Lusamine and Guzma lived in Nihilego's world? Its possible.

Nihilego is rock so its "space" was a cave, Kartana is grass so its "space" is a forrest

The layout looks also similar to Nihilego's cave: a short corridor with a wider area at the end

Given that we have version exclusive beasts i'd say each game will have 5 Ultra space "corridors"
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Very interesting. Kind of cool to go to each ultra beasts individual corridors.
 
Okay, the Alola map has changed, it's true. However, what most makes the region look different is just the sunset/sunrise. Yes, we can see some new areas on Melemele, etc, and things on Poni don't look so good, but there aren't that many big differences (aside from the cloud). The "dried places" are kind of an illusion since it's just the water's color being different thanks to the sunset. Now, I'm not saying the ecossystem in Alola is doing great, and I really WANT a plot focused on its ecossystem. As many have said, Zygarde might have a role in the plot of this games.

Now, if Alola's ecossystem is actually getting worse or being altered, then who could possibly do this? Aether Foundation? I doubt it. The Ultra Beasts? Maybe... What about Necrozma? What will be its role in this game. Things are still pretty confusing so we should wait and see...
 
Pyrax said:
Looks like 4chan noticed something with that forest in the trailer.
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Wow. If this really is the Ultra Space and each Ultra Beast does have their own domain which I totally called earlier this year, BTW, then what is that person doing there? Are they a Faller? If so, how did they survive when their doesn't seem to be any food or water in the Ultra Space?
 
clbgolden said:
Wow. If this really is the Ultra Space and each Ultra Beast does have their own domain which I totally called earlier this year, BTW, then what is that person doing there? Are they a Faller? If so, how did they survive when their doesn't seem to be any food or water in the Ultra Space?
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Well, the forest has leaves, one can survive off of those.
 
The thing about individual ultra spaces is really cool, and it makes perfect sense now that I look at that image closer. I wonder what would cause us to go to their ultra spaces instead of them being dropped in Alola? Alternative story, that's what I'm thinking.

The thing about environmental changes and a possible Zygarde connection is interesting too. IIRC, Dexio in SM makes this comment in SM after you collect 10% Cells:

"Zygarde is said to maintain the order of the Kalos region...then why is it in Alola...? Is it a sign that something is about to happen?"

Another semi-related thing I wanted to point out is that there doesn't appear to be any rain on Po Town anymore. It makes me wonder if it will be restored to its former glory and Team Skull will have their base elsewhere?
 
Even if this should be in another thread, it's still related to USUM's region map:

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The pictures are self explanatory. So, what do you guys think? Is it really a reference or are we just imagining things?
 
kingdenas said:
Even if this should be in another thread, it's still related to USUM's region map:

Spoiler:

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The pictures are self explanatory. So, what do you guys think? Is it really a reference or are we just imagining things?
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This may be a coincidence because the original Alola map featured a cloud that slightly resembled Mewtwo, yet you couldn't catch it. However, when you look at the rift above Poni Island, how Silvally is essentially a poor man's Arceus, right down to the ability and signature move, and the fact that Ultra Space has been compared to the Distortion World, things start to fall into place. It could be possible, but unlikely, that Dialga/Palkia/Giratina could play a role in the plot, or maybe get some more Sinnoh cameos. And then we'll be getting Sinnoh remakes!
 
WingsofBliss said:
The thing about individual ultra spaces is really cool, and it makes perfect sense now that I look at that image closer. I wonder what would cause us to go to their ultra spaces instead of them being dropped in Alola? Alternative story, that's what I'm thinking.

The thing about environmental changes and a possible Zygarde connection is interesting too. IIRC, Dexio in SM makes this comment in SM after you collect 10% Cells:

"Zygarde is said to maintain the order of the Kalos region...then why is it in Alola...? Is it a sign that something is about to happen?"

Another semi-related thing I wanted to point out is that there doesn't appear to be any rain on Po Town anymore. It makes me wonder if it will be restored to its former glory and Team Skull will have their base elsewhere?
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Zygarde should be in the games more and have more information on why its there, maybe that happens in USUM.
 
Ida13 said:
Zygarde should be in the games more and have more information on why its there, maybe that happens in USUM.
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Even so, it doesn't explain why Zygarde is in the game, but not Xerneas or Yveltal. Even if they do have a massive ecological disaster which seems likely by the map, it won't be a cue for the life/death duo to come out to play, so it could be possible that they'll just be gated until postgame, and catching them will obviously end up being an optional task.
 
I really do hope those clouds are something, as unlikely as it may be - perhaps they saw all the fan speculation about "seeing legendaries in the clouds" last time around?

The amount of references to Sinnoh increasing wouldn't be a bad thing either, but I question where that would take us since they traditionally do that right around when they're about to release a set of remakes... and that's not likely to happen with the Switch game in development already.

Regarding Zygarde, I'm very, very strongly opposed to its involvement in the plot. It had its generation, and it didn't get a game then - that doesn't mean that they need to keep making it up to fans that like Zygarde. Lore-wise, it doesn't make all that much sense anyway - I don't think the map so far suggests any kind of major ecological incident or shift, and I don't think it makes much sense to assume that Zygarde's role reaches that far outside its own trio, as that would run contrary to most other legendary Pokémon ever.
 
Don't count on Zygarde being a part of the story or post game. These games are about the mascots.
 
Alexander18 said:
Don't count on Zygarde being a part of the story or post game. These games are about the mascots.
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But it was already technically a part of the game in a more significant way than being there randomly like other legends....

I already know what you're gonna say though, idk why I bothered replying.

I hope there's some sort of explanation as to why the cells are scattered in Alola.
 
Altairis said:
But it was already technically a part of the game in a more significant way than being there randomly like other legends....

I already know what you're gonna say though, idk why I bothered replying.

I hope there's some sort of explanation as to why the cells are scattered in Alola.
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In SM, you only collect cells and cores to make a Zygarde. Not really a bigger role than XY in my opinion.
 
kingdenas said:
Even if this should be in another thread, it's still related to USUM's region map:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:


The pictures are self explanatory. So, what do you guys think? Is it really a reference or are we just imagining things?
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The Sun and Moon clouds looked like Lugia and Ho-Oh, but I think we were seeing things because they didn't appear in the game or aftergame.

HeroLinik said:
This may be a coincidence because the original Alola map featured a cloud that slightly resembled Mewtwo, yet you couldn't catch it. However, when you look at the rift above Poni Island, how Silvally is essentially a poor man's Arceus, right down to the ability and signature move, and the fact that Ultra Space has been compared to the Distortion World, things start to fall into place. It could be possible, but unlikely, that Dialga/Palkia/Giratina could play a role in the plot, or maybe get some more Sinnoh cameos. And then we'll be getting Sinnoh remakes!
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Mewtwo? Could of sworn people were saying Ho-Oh and Lugia.
 
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