The Plot Bunny Thread

[Vindicate]

A new pokemon series/movie (Xerzus Wrath

Hello everyone, today I came up with an Idea for a new Pokemon series/ movie and I hope you like it.
So , Its like this;

While Ash is traveling trough a big city (one that hes never been before), he sees a Research building surrounded by some people(Team Apocalypse maybe?, if you could, please suggest me another name, because i find it too basic.) that captured all the research team. While they escort the research that fights back, Team Apocalypse are using strong Pokemon to attack the research team so that they will obey. Ash sees everything and is angered by their actions but knows that he cant act alone against this many people but one of the researchers is his father, then he stares and looking at his fathers injuries, he gets mad and uses his Pokemon to rescue his dad. Right after that one member of Team Apocalypse that was in charge (someone with high rank in their team) fights Ash alone (I could also make up some dialogs for them later ) He uses Yveltal, the legendary Pokemon to fight Ash, In the fight , Pikachu is severely injured and almost dies(maybe a bit too harsh ), the same as his others Pokemon that have been injured by Yveltal (The enemy didn't go all-out because it didn't want to attract the attention of the police . Ash faints upon loosing and wokes up in the hospital that was in the city . Standing near his bed , is one of the research team, that was away when they attacked. He tells Ash he is sorry for what happen to him and his father and tells Ash about them, that they are an organization made out of strong trainers and that they are lead by a man named Mr. Lexus that wants to awake a Legendary Pokemon , the strongest Pokemon that can be found on the face of earth (A new legendary, we gotta think of a better name and a lore) Xerzus (I just added the name of the god of destruction and Latin word Anguis witch also means dragon and modified them until i got that name LoL) the Legendary Pokemon that was locked away by a mysterious man centuries ago using 6 legendary Pokemon. with the intent to create a new world where no on will oppose him and where he can continue his experiments on Pokemon and humans to create the perfect being. He also tells Ash that his father was working with the researchers to find the clues about its whereabouts and make sure nobody tries to unleash Xerzus wrath.
Ash , inflamed with the desire for revenge he starts to gather his strongest Pokemon and start the search of those legendary Pokemon that the mysterious man used to lock away Xerzus .

That's all for now :), tell me what do you think and if you would like, tell me if I should add something. I already thought about an ending.
I want Ash here to be more vengeful , serious , with a will of fire to save his dad and the hole world.,
I thought about those 6 legendary Pokemon the mysterious man used should be one from each legendary Pokemon that already exist , for example one from each trio and duo of legendaries Pokemon. You guys could help me choose them if you would like or do you think it would be too much to create another 6 legendaries Pokemon?

I want to hear your opinions about every think, especially if this should be a movie or series

 

[Bay]

Hello everyone, today I came up with an Idea for a new Pokemon series/ movie and I hope you like it.

Hi, so I moved this to the plot bunny thread as I think it fits better here. Onto the story itself. One thing that pops up in my mind immeditely is why one of the researchers and not Ash's dad go talk to him himself. That would be a great oppurtunity for them to connect. Besides that, why a made up legendary and not one of the already canon ones? Perhaps use Arceus? Granted, Ash already met with Arceus in one of the movies, but Ash sometimes met legendaries more than once, like the DPPt legendaries. What you have here does sound like an interesting beginning already.

 

[Vindicate]

Hi,thanks for moving it to the right thread. You asked me why doesn't his dad go to talk to Ash, well his father is captured by Team Apocalypse along with all researchers except that one that went to Ash because he wasn't there at the building when Team Apocalypse attacked. Also I decided to "create" a new Pokemon because I wanted Xerzus to be kind of unstoppable when faced alone and that it requires 6 legendary pokemon to stop him which would make it an ultimate challenge for Ash. Oh, and I decided that Team Apocalypse should own Yveltal because it kinda resembles an "Bad" pokemon , just like their intentions.

 

[Kung Fu Ferret]

Just wrote the prologue for Eric Damon's origin story, and before I post the first official chapter, I need to figure some things out.

I've taken plenty of inspiration from both The Jungle Book and Tarzan.


Chapter One will begin with him at the seven-year anniversary of him being discovered by Ajagar, who brought him into Mahatma's pride.
This story arc will have Eric trying to figure out who he is, and there will be plenty of Pokémon to help him along the way, such as Shufo the Diggersby. (Yes, it's a play on the name Shofu of "Diggersby, tho?" fame)

Also,

Spoiler:

Temujin, who was mentioned in the prologue, is a Krookodile, and fills the "Shere Khan"-type role..

EDIT: Not sure if that last part was spoiler-worthy.....

 

[icomeanon6]

Lately I've been mulling over an idea for an episodic fanfic. I was thinking about the episode structure of shows like Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex where there are "plot episodes" and "standalone episodes" interspersed between them (there's a subtle difference between "standalone" and "filler," but I'm not going to get into that right now). The plot episodes tell an overarching story, and the standalone episodes are usually focused on individual characters, or particular facets of the world they live in. I think this kind of structure would be perfect for a Pokemon show, and since I'm not a screenwriter I'm wondering if it could work as an episodic novel.

So here's my idea:

There are two trios of main characters. One consists of young trainers on a journey together through the Johto region, and the other consists of adults who are done journeying but whose careers involve Pokemon to varying degrees. The overarching plot involves all six. The main theme is that the world looks much less dangerous to optimistic, over-empowered children than to responsible adults, and that managing children's freedom-to-danger ratio is a difficult balancing act.

The Characters:

(Spoiler tag'd for length only)

Spoiler:

• Jason (11) is a funny, good-natured kid, but being around his best friend Travis brings out his impolite side. He is an average battler who will never be better than average at it no matter how hard he tries. This frustrates him to the point where he can't be happy with his true talent: he is uncannily good at catching wild Pokemon. It is in part this frustration that drives him to set a dangerous, impossible goal for the team so that he might prove himself.
• Travis (11) has been Jason's best friend since they were little. He is a trainer of water-types with a considerable attitude problem and a smart mouth. He is pretty awful at battling, but is too macho to admit that he doesn't care about battling at all. His dream is to be the first trainer to circumnavigate the globe using Surf.
• Krissy (11) met Jason and Travis on their first day of training and immediately began following them for reasons that are unclear to the other two. She is courteous and well-behaved to the point where it might be called "suppressed." She is also an excellent battler and raiser of Pokemon, but her emotional connection with her Pokemon is lacking, and she worries that this stems from her family-problems that she hasn't yet disclosed to the other two.
• Jen (26) is Jason's close cousin. She's charismatic, energetic, and great with kids--even more so since she kicked her drinking habit. She runs an unofficial Pokemon gym outside Ecruteak City that caters mostly to families and adult trainers who don't have the time to be competitive enough for the League gyms. She trains fire-types.
• Hanna (28) has been Jen's best friend since their Pokemon journey together. She's smart, quiet, and introverted compared to Jen, and more emotionally stable. She is a programmer by trade who works for Bill on the PC Storage System and for Oak on the Pokedex. More than the others she has trouble remembering what it's like to be a kid. (In a short story I wrote earlier she was named 'Katie,' but I'm changing this so there aren't two female characters whose names start with 'K.')
• Derek (32) is Jen's older brother. He is un-charismatic, un-expressive, and has trouble forming meaningful relationships with people. He does well in professional settings and poorly in social ones. Unbeknownst to the other characters he is a plain-clothes officer for the Goldenrod Police Department on an undercover assignment to infiltrate and sabotage Team Rocket, who think that he's a police archivist selling them leaks. He finds himself out of his depth when some familiar kids start trying to do his job in a less subtle and more reckless fashion.

Some of you may recognize five out of these six characters from short stories I've written for the SWC over the years. This fic will be in a different continuity, meaning...

Spoiler:

Jason will not have a vaguely-defined terminal illness, and I'm not killing him off. When I wrote that first story Jason was thrown together to fit the theme of how one might approach the end of life, and since then he's grown into his own person. That Jason belonged to a single idea, but now he belongs to himself so he doesn't need to die anymore.

...and other details will change, like how Jason and company will all be from Johto. They'll still be essentially the same people though, just more fleshed out.

The Main Story:

The main story kicks off with Derek, who's working deep undercover with the police to take down Team Rocket. His job becomes much more difficult when he spots his younger cousin Jason along with two other kids trying to stalk and take out a pair of Grunts. He abandons his present objective to get them out of harm's way, but he learns that this is only a temporary fix and that he'll have to do something to keep them away from Team Rocket. He can't order them to do so because he can't blow his cover to anyone outside of the police; he doesn't want to go to their parents lest they force them to end their journey and stay at home; and it doesn't help that he's terrible at talking to kids. In desperation he goes to his outgoing younger sister Jen, thinking that Jason will be more likely to listen to her.

Derek's situation is complicated further when Jen's more inquisitive friend Hanna gets involved as well and discovers exactly what Derek's job is. In exchange for keeping his employment a secret and trying to dissuade the kids, Hanna wants to assist his sabotage efforts directly, and for that she wants him to steal her some of Team Rocket's technology for analysis. What was supposed to be solo-mission is rapidly becoming a team-mission despite his best efforts to stop it. At the very least he wants the pre-teens out of the picture before they learn what a huge difference there is between the Grunts and the Executives.

On the other side of this are three brave kids who want to do the right thing in the vein of the heroes the reader is familiar with from the games and anime. But underneath the surface there is doubt. Jason doesn't want to admit to himself that he's mostly doing this to prove his (unexceptional) battling skills to the others. His friend Travis eventually realizes that they're in over their heads but he is afraid of being seen as a coward. And although their relatively new friend Krissy isn't lacking in confidence, she is seriously thinking about disappearing before they...

Spoiler:

run into members of her family in Team Rocket.

As for structure, I'm thinking the fic will begin in medias res with the first chapter being a plot-chapter. The plot-chapters will take place chronologically later than the standalone-chapters, which will be character-focused stories that lean more on the slice-of-life side. The intent is that the standalone-chapters create a fuller picture of what makes the characters tick and ultimately adds gravity to the climax of the plot-chapters.

So here are my main questions to you all: Does this premise seem stale to you? I'm hoping it seems like more than just "three OTs are fighting Team Rocket." Do you like the idea of a fic that alternates between being a collection of short stories and something more like a proper novel? I think that starting with the main plot described above will be more interesting than starting with when Jason gets his first Pokemon and the trio is formed; do you agree?

I also haven't decided on a title. The first one I thought of was Will Somebody Stop These Kids? but that feels off somehow. Maybe I'll name the plot-chapters "Will Somebody Stop These Kids? - Part 1" etc. in the style of Haruhi Suzumiya episode titles--basically the standalone ones have unique titles and the plot ones have a shared title.

 

[Venia Silente]

re: icomeanon6's ideas

The format you describe is certainly not a rarity and as you mention it is done with (and works well with) Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. It is still done but less notable due to the medium format, with other shows, one example I'd say is notable is Batman Beyond's first season (ca. 1999), one could argue it was done with some spy procedurals of the 2000s like Alias. There is no particular reason I could see it not working with an episodic novel except for story length constraints, as this format can increase the feeling of arc fatigue.

Now, before I get onto the idea proper, I just want to say one thing.

I also haven't decided on a title.

With your premise, how hasn't "If it Wasn't for Those Meddling Kids" been an option yet? I mean come on, it pretty much runs with the spirit of the franchise... :p

And *now* on to the idea proper: the plot idea is, basically, good. I'm not sure how much of it is doable within novel-style story constraints, depending on how much of the freedom-to-danger ratio you want to work with it can get somewhat long because, simply put, sometimes consequences (and danger) take their time. Think an injury while hiking with your Pokémon. It might mean little now, but if for some reason it healed wrong or it triggered a different subyacent issue... you won't hear the beginning of it for a while.

Setting-wise, you might need to account for some things.

Like what are 11-year-old children doing openly and repeatedly antagonizing Team Rocket. Given that your story theme is specifically children in danger, you need to somehow justify in-universe if children (not "Red" or "Gold", who are special cases, but "in general") are capable and allowed to just go and do that. If this is a world where children can regularly make criminal teams stumble, it stands to reason there is not much adult worrying about them being "in danger"; if it is not, and your three children get away with it because they are Special™, then you run the risk of circling around the issue of Evil Teams being useless to Adults Are Useless, which will instantly defeat your entire premise (because the adult side of the story is about what they have to do, and they are already supposed to be capable if they are *infiltrating* Team Rocket).

Given that you plan to use the same adult charcacters for a long term in-story, one variable to play with it properly exposing their different perception of time. For children, everything is an adventure because two weeks is a huge percentage of their awake time; for adults it's just yet another period of lower your head and grind yourself for paycheck.

So basically you have to oversee what justifies that your characters even think this can work out, and why is it even perceived as a possibility at a societal level.

Regarding where to start, most people recommend starting where the story gets exciting / interesting. I can't recommend that because as a worldbuilder I have learnt that if you do that, you are dragged and slowed down too much by necessary exposition and flashbacks of the mechanics of the world and the motivations of the characters. Of course, I can't recommend either to start where the influence of the story begins, as that might put you too close to a gap in the timeline of events and on events that don't really need focus (the police infiltration - these kinds of operations take months if not years to properly set up).

As a middle point, I'd recommend starting the story at the first crossroad: when the children intervene and that forces Derek's hand. That's the point where you can introduce the most characters or events without any of them stepping on each others' toes, because at that point pretty much every major character involved will have agency.

Overall, if you want to give this a spin, by all means do so! Just credit me if for some reason you end up taking my title idea... :p

 

[ShadowDragon1234]

I need book advice for a fanfic I'm writing.

Hi! I'm writing a fic about Ghetsis being kidnapped by Team Rocket, but I don't know what should happen to him once he's been kidnapped. I need ideas!

 

[icomeanon6]

Hey, welcome to the forum! I have as little idea about what should happen to Ghetsis as you do, but here are some questions that I think can you can use to piece it out:

Why did Team Rocket kidnap Ghetsis? Money? Ideological differences? Mistaken identity? Other, unspeakably unseemly reasons?

How did Team Rocket kidnap Ghetsis? Is this part of a larger conflict between Team Rocket and Team Plasma? Does Team Plasma know their leader's been kidnapped? Why couldn't they stop it, and what are they doing about it?

What kind of resources does Ghetsis have at his disposal? Does he have any of his Pokemon with him, or did they take everything and have him chained to a wall? Do you want him to try to escape on his own power, by manipulating members of Team Rocket, or by some other means entirely? For that matter, is this told more from the perspective of Ghetsis, Team Rocket, or both? Who are the other characters?

What kind of story do you want to write? Is it action-packed and suspenseful? Funny? Tragic? Are you picturing something large in scope or something short and sweet? Is this going to be just the start of a larger story about the two Teams or just about Ghetsis's kidnapping/possible escape? Any of these are fine, but whatever happens to Ghetsis should be something that fits the kind of story you're going for.

Hope this helps get your creative juices flowing. Good luck with your story!

EDIT: Btw, the main forum's for posting fics, so the mod will probably move this to the Writer's Lounge.

 

[Bay]

Hi! I'm writing a fic about Ghetsis being kidnapped by Team Rocket, but I don't know what should happen to him once he's been kidnapped. I need ideas!

Hi, I moved your thread to the plot bunny thread as you're asking help for a plot bunny. I would recommend consider some of icomeanon6's ideas as they made some nice suggestions there. I wish you luck.

I don't have time to check icomeanon6's idea right now but seems Venia offered some suggestions. As for Digimon Kaiser, I haven't check out your fic but inspirations from Jungle Book and Tarzan doe sound fun and has potential.

 

[ShadowDragon1234]

Ghetsis and Touko working together?

I'm writing a fanfic about Ghetsis and Touko being forced to work together. I need ideas as to how they would interact with each other, considering their previous endeavors with each other.

 

[Bay]

I'm writing a fanfic about Ghetsis and Touko being forced to work together. I need ideas as to how they would interact with each other, considering their previous endeavors with each other.

Once again, moved this in the Plot Bunny thread as your post isn't a fic and moreso needing ideas.

Am curious, will you be working on the Ghetsis being kidnapped by Team Rocket idea you mentioned last time, too? If so, hopefully you'll be able to manage both fics at the same time. Only thing I can think of is maybe there's some sort of antagonist or antagonistic force that forces them to work together. I think I would like it Touko is willing to help if Ghetsis turns himself in with Ghetsis reluctantly agreeing to the terms.

If you'll combine those two ideas, though, maybe Ghetsis and Touko will go against Team Rocket together. Of course, if you go that route you'll need to think over why Team Rocket wants Ghetsis.

 

[ShadowDragon1234]

Once again, moved this in the Plot Bunny thread as your post isn't a fic and moreso needing ideas.

Am curious, will you be working on the Ghetsis being kidnapped by Team Rocket idea you mentioned last time, too? If so, hopefully you'll be able to manage both fics at the same time. Only thing I can think of is maybe there's some sort of antagonist or antagonistic force that forces them to work together. I think I would like it Touko is willing to help if Ghetsis turns himself in with Ghetsis reluctantly agreeing to the terms.

If you'll combine those two ideas, though, maybe Ghetsis and Touko will go against Team Rocket together. Of course, if you go that route you'll need to think over why Team Rocket wants Ghetsis.

Don't worry. I'm writing both, but they are separate fics. Interesting idea though. I'll give it further thought, but like I said previously, if the fics are gonna work the way I want them to, they'll have to be separate. Thanx for the reply tho. :) I look forward to more people willing to lend a hand.

 

[Bay]

Hoy, so I thought of a Sun/Moon fic idea that will probably be a few parts. Will put it under spoilers though as it contains some Sun/Moon plot stuff.

Spoiler:

So I thought of a fic that will have Grimsley and Nanu interact with one another. I already thought how I'll do the beginning and end, but one part in particular I'm unsure. Bare bones outline:-

-Grimsley visits Ula'ula Island, meets with Acerola and Nanu. They take him to the temple where Tapu Bulu resides.
-Middle part I want something to do with Grimsley being aware of Team Skull and perhaps some interaction between him and them?
-Ultra Beasts attack thanks to Lusamine. Grimsley helps Nanu and Acerloa fighting one or two Ultra Beasts, then Tapu Bulu comes help out too.
-Last part will have Grimsley and Nanu battle, Nanu teaching Grimsley Z moves.

I'm thinking this will be a few parts because of how several events will happen. One thing I'm unsure of is the bolded part, how I'll have Grimsley know/deal with Team Skull. In the games he's aware of the gang and warns the player to not go against them, so I'm wondering if it's possible he had crossed paths with them, and if so how? Maybe he battled against Plumeria and/or Guzma?

Besides that, I wonder if I can reference Grimsley's experiences with N/Team Plasma too.

 

[bobandbill]

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Spoiler:

Perhaps Grimsley encounters them beforehand - after all, they're all over Alola in the game, and Ula'ula is where their base is.

I would say go for the 'interaction between him and them' - Team Skull grunts are the best, and I feel you could come up with something fun involving his gambling/chance stuff perplexing said Team Skull grunts, heh.

Team Plasma reference is doable - he can compare TS grunts with that of TP, or just be reminded Unova was overrun by a team too (which may just automatically make him wary given what happened there).

 

[User19sq]

...Or Nanu, you know... a cop, can simply inform Grimsley of Skull and their antics. While it sounds boring, it's the event that leads Nanu to inform him that can prove entertaining. Like bobandbill said, interaction is probably best. Grimsley can interact with some grunts, and then Nanu and possibly Acerola can begin telling him of Skull.

 

[Bay]

Thanks Taro Tanaka and bobandbill for your suggestions!

Spoiler:

Yeah, I thought about Nanu letting Grimsley know about Team Skull somewhere down the line. I originally thought about Grimsley going to Po Town also, but it might complicate things. But yeah, probably will just have him encounter grunts and some interaction.

 

[Shadowchaos1010]

Interest Check - Fire Emblem: Conjoint Souls

Greeting fellow users of Pok?community. I had started on a story based off of Fire Emblem some time ago, but deserted it. Then I watched the Fire Emblem Direct, downloaded four different FE roms and got inspired again. Here is a synopsis I wrote when I started to work on it again:

The continent of Ignis is split into five different countries: the empire of Cicerus, the kingdom of Veroe, the parliamentary democracy of Arnion, the warrior society known as Kinea, and the small theocracy of Moria. In the midst of an Industrial Revolution, the most recent Cicerusian emperor, Viktor, passes and his eldest son Alistair inherits the throne. Shortly after, his second eldest son, Charles, moves to the capital of Veroe to marry the princess, Lucindia. All is well for a time, until war breaks out between the two nations. Charles sides with his new bride, her family, and her nation, making him his own family?s enemy. After the war, Cicerus does all it can to fix the crippled Veroe, but the relief effort is interrupted by uprisings by the Feramil, a people with the ability to turn into various animals. The Feramil were slaves until after a was a decade prior, and still treated like second-class citizens. In both wars, many Feramil lost their lives, and some say more Feramil died than humans, despite the fact that they?re the minority in the kingdom. The uprising finds allies in select groups of Feramil from Kinea, and all of those involved have one goal: to wipe humanity off of the planet for all of the atrocities committed. Among some radicals, this goal then grows to include the extermination of the Nagamil, the people of Arnion, capable of turning into dragons, because they refuse to take a side. The new war rages, until a plot is uncovered surrounding The Fourth Order, the continent?s prominent religion, one which concerns the fate of the world.

Aside from that, I don't know much about what I'd want to do with the story. And for some reason, I have a cast of about thirty or so characters. In true Fire Emblem fashion, the vast majority have little to no plot relevance, but since this isn't a game, it makes their existence even more illogical. So, I decided to write supports for all of these characters, as well as paralogues in order to flesh them out more. I also think that it would be a good idea to 'feature' one or two of the other not as important characters into each of the main story chapters.

Anyway, I would like to know if anyone would be interested in reading this story once I've worked more on it. If you're interested, please either leave a response or simply vote in the poll. After a while I'll check and see what the people think.

 

[Bay]

Hey so I moved your post to this thread as it seems you need some help with your idea/wanting to know if someone is interested in it. I don't know too much about Fire Emblem, so I can't help you there but I'm sure there are other folks that can. Wish you luck, either way.

 

[User19sq]

All Fire Emblem is about war. I strongly advise you to make it... a little different. Like Pokemon did with the badges and trials this time around. It needs to stand out a whole lot.

But the things that drive FE are support-convos and action, both of which make it hard to write a full fic. Like when you see a movie of a game and hate that they cut out a lot. So, while I support your idea, I find myself hoping that you know what you're doing. -w-

 

[Vragon]

Anyway, I would like to know if anyone would be interested in reading this story once I've worked more on it. If you're interested, please either leave a response or simply vote in the poll. After a while I'll check and see what the people think.

The small snippit you gave sounds a lot in common with the Tellius series (I've played FE and also a fan so, Yah Ike!)

If your going to make a large continent with many kingdoms, I would agree with Taro Tanaka that it needs to stand out from the Tellius series, but there may be other ways around that.

Since your's has a group like the Grimleal (from awakening) I would suggest making them different at least in nature. Also, Support conversations are good, but you would need to make adaptions should certain plot lines fail. I would suggest creating your supports, after you know where this story will go.

I know it's hard to not have some FE (It's really awesome and even I have issues with not using some) but it good to have some originality. Your two brothers of the kingdoms Cicerus and Veroe was a differ in my opinion (unless there is one like this that I don't know).

But, I wouldn't advice you to give it up. There is good potential here and though the little bit of stuff you did show, is just what it is. A little bit of stuff of a bigger picture. FE fans like it for story, strategy, support, characters, and the genre. I am curious about how you plan to involve guerrilla warfare in the uprising and such. Though I am also wondering who your protagonist is. But don't worry about it. From the vantage point I have, it looks like a skeleton to the future GRIMA! (FE fan nerd I am).

Robin all the way

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*Good luck and have fun with it.*