Theresa may planning to create government-controlled "new internet" for the UK

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    Absolutely disgusting. Here's hoping it never happens, although if the investigatory powers act is anything to go by it'll happen anyway no matter how controversial it is.
     
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    Goodness, she makes Ajit Pai seem like a good guy when it comes to policing the internet.
     
    I remember when I used to want to live in britan... at least they still have good accents...
    I like freedom of speech, I wouldn't want to live in a country without it.
     
    Goodbye freedom of speech and privacy I guess. I hope it doesn't pass otherwise people are better off go back to the Stone Age if they really want some privacy.
     
    Raffy98 said:
    Goodbye freedom of speech and privacy I guess. I hope it doesn't pass otherwise people are better off go back to the Stone Age if they really want some privacy.
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    But what if that privacy happens to be illegal pornography (you know the kind I'm talking about)? I say that alone is enough reason to justify a government-controlled internet.
     
    Pinkie-Dawn said:
    But what if that privacy happens to be illegal pornography (you know the kind I'm talking about)? I say that alone is enough reason to justify a government-controlled internet.
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    All security and moral reasons aside though, just the fact that the government or, more generally speaking, someone else can see what I'm doing 24/7 on the Internet bothers me... a lot. Even if you have nothing to fear about your internet activities, why should someone be always up to date with that? What is this, the Big Brother?

    Your claim is true, there are people who unfortunately use the Internet to do bad stuff, but taking away the privacy of people isn't the way to solve this and let me make an analogy to explain it better: for example, countries in which the death penalty is still in use do not have lower crime rates than countries who don't use death penalty, and I think that the example could still be valid here (even if it's a little exaggerated maybe :)).
     
    Tsutarja said:
    Are you kidding me? Did you even bother reading what the proposed changes include?
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    I have, and I see this as a necessary sacrifice because as much as I hate to admit, our government hardly enforces our CP laws towards anyone who visits R34 websites. It's like how in schools where the entire class is punished because one of them broke the rules.
     
    Pinkie-Dawn said:
    I have, and I see this as a necessary sacrifice because as much as I hate to admit, our government hardly enforces our CP laws towards anyone who visits R34 websites. It's like how in schools where the entire class is punished because one of them broke the rules.
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    Why are you so worried about regulation of pornography? That's hardly the issue at hand here.
     
    Yeah, no, I don't like this one bit. The government dictating what you can read, say, or download on the internet? This is 1984 stuff right here. Only what they decree is good goes and all the while they get to read every little post you make on every app that ever connects to a network. No thank you. I've already heard stories of people getting arrested for posting stuff the government doesn't like on Facebook, I don't want that crap to get any worse.

    Pinkie-Dawn said:
    I have, and I see this as a necessary sacrifice because as much as I hate to admit, our government hardly enforces our CP laws towards anyone who visits R34 websites. It's like how in schools where the entire class is punished because one of them broke the rules.
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    This is like the government following you around to every shop and house you go to and searching your grocery bags and bathroom because you might be harboring illegal drugs. I mean sure, if you don't have illegal drugs on you, you can say you have nothing to fear, but do you really want people snooping around watching you buy ibuprofen from the store and going through your medicine cabinet wondering why you have so much cold medicine? This isn't even going into government corruption, where one day the powers that be might decide having that bottle of robitussin on your nightstand is illegal and have you locked up for it.

    Yeah some people are going to download terrible things off the internet they shouldn't be dealing with. Yeah they should be punished for doing so and those places should be shut down. But we shouldn't be monitoring everyone, going through their posts and browser history and monitoring them like it's Dwarf Fortress just because some naughty dwarves in the corner might be getting their hands on illegal smuggled goods. The problem is no government enforcement of existing laws, so why make new laws that make it worse on innocent people who didn't do anything wrong and have no control over the crazies in society that will always exist and do evil crap because they're heinous individuals?
     
    Pinkie-Dawn said:
    Because whenever I read any article involving the government trying to regulate the internet, pornography is the first thing that comes to my mind.
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    Unlike other forms of questionable things which might be of concern - extremest propaganda, guides on how to commit suicide, getting illegal drugs or whatever, pornography is easy to protect minors from viewing.

    There are many simple ways of doing it - you can opt in to ISP filtering, use OpenDNS parental controls, install some browser addon etc. Do we really need the government to create a brand new internet to stop children from accessing pornography? Yes, the aforementioned things also block child porn, so again, do we really need to create a 'new internet' just for this?
     
    Chairman May further over-reaching the powers of the state. I always find this frustratingly inconsistent - the Conservatives are constantly trying to privatise everything yet when it comes to the internet and our private lives they can't keep out of it.

    I really hate how no other party manifesto talks about rolling back the Investigatory Powers Act either. That whole Brexit mess then another election...they've just been distracting everyone and doing what they like in the shadows.
     
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