Your most hated move

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    So, what move, build, or ability do you just absolutely hate?

    Really, I just hate anything gimmicky that you need something very specific to counter. But nothing grinds my gears than someone who uses the move Substitute. I hate substitute. It gives me nothing but crap! All I want to do is beat the living daylights out of my opponent's Pokemon. But NO! Substutute! Then that player feels free to spam that skill for god knows how long dragging the battle on and on and on hoping that you'll get bored and just quit. Then they have the nerve to try to put you to sleep dragging the battle for even longer.

    I know that some people like battles to have 50+ turns. But I absolutely hate it. What makes matters worse is that my oppoonent ends up losing anyway. . . . WHAT THE PSYDUCK WAS THE POINT???????? You didn't even win? You just wasted my fricken time when I could have played 3-4 other rounds? You had the darn nerve to spam Substitute, and you weren't even good at it. *Sigh*

    Check out this battle:
    8R4W-WWWW-WW2WG3LX

    Let me share some advice about Sub:

    Sub Spammers are Noobs
    If you are gonna spam subs, don't be predictable
    If you are going to spam sub, don't do it in front of a Pokemon with the ability Pressure. Are you fricking retarded? Do you need a fricken cat scan or something?

    Okay, rant over. What is your most hated Move, ability, or gimmicky build?
     
    If you are going to spam sub, don't do it in front of a Pokemon with the ability Pressure. Are you fricking retarded? Do you need a fricken cat scan or something?

    >stays in long enough to allow sub user to use sub 8 times.
    >calls sub user retarded

    May I call Scald, Knock Off, and Lando-T to the stand?
     
    I hate ferrothorn!
    I hate it more when my fire type gets killed.
    #hate ferrothorn
     
    - Rock Slide
    - Fake Out
    - Encore
    - Rock Slide
     
    So, what move, build, or ability do you just absolutely hate?

    Really, I just hate anything gimmicky that you need something very specific to counter. But nothing grinds my gears than someone who uses the move Substitute. I hate substitute. It gives me nothing but crap! All I want to do is beat the living daylights out of my opponent's Pokemon. But NO! Substutute! Then that player feels free to spam that skill for god knows how long dragging the battle on and on and on hoping that you'll get bored and just quit. Then they have the nerve to try to put you to sleep dragging the battle for even longer.

    I know that some people like battles to have 50+ turns. But I absolutely hate it. What makes matters worse is that my oppoonent ends up losing anyway. . . . WHAT THE PSYDUCK WAS THE POINT???????? You didn't even win? You just wasted my fricken time when I could have played 3-4 other rounds? You had the darn nerve to spam Substitute, and you weren't even good at it. *Sigh*

    Check out this battle:
    8R4W-WWWW-WW2WG3LX

    Let me share some advice about Sub:

    Sub Spammers are Noobs
    If you are gonna spam subs, don't be predictable
    If you are going to spam sub, don't do it in front of a Pokemon with the ability Pressure. Are you fricking retarded? Do you need a fricken cat scan or something?

    Okay, rant over. What is your most hated Move, ability, or gimmicky build?
    Pressure doesn't affect Substitute because it only affects moves that specifically target the Pressure user itself.

    Anyway, one of my most hated moves is Thunder Wave coming from Prankster Thundurus. As an offensive player, my mojo gets thrown off when one of my fast attackers gets crippled.
     
    Pressure doesn't affect Substitute because it only affects moves that specifically target the Pressure user itself.

    Meh, didn't know that considering the ability's description says:

    The Pokemon raises opposing Pokemon's PP usage.

    Nothing about the description says that it only affects the moves that target the opponent.
     
    Protect in combination with toxic and wish.Damn it.I hate that move in general,but when used in this combination it can make me rage quit the battle.
     
    The move I have the most trouble dealing with is magic coat. It doesn't come up often, and it sometimes fails, but when it works, it can be a game changer.

    Magic bounce reflects status moves like willow wisp, thunder wave, stealth rock, probably roar, and toxic.
     
    Anything that is luck based so I say:

    - All confusion moves (confuse ray, swagger, flatter etc.)
    - Evasion moves
    - Critical hits in general
    - Focus Miss is probably my most hated move ever cause some pokémon really need it but can't use it well cause of the poor accuracy
     
    I second Evasion moves, specifically Double Team. It's extremely unfair and annoying when you can't even land a single hit on the opponent.
     
    has already been said, but scald is ridiculous. a 100% accurate 80 base power move is already nice, and burn on its own is really nice (that's why people will use the notoriously inaccurate will-o-wisp, after all), so combining both into one move is just ridiculous. i liked karpman's description that it messes up the balance of the type chart. people often bring up lava plume and discharge, but fire-types double as will-o-wisp absorbers, and they resist lava plume. they are weak to scald. as for discharge, electric- and ground-types offer great ways to take BOTH the attack AND the secondary effect. very few pokemon exist that can take scald as a water attack and deal with the burn. it also has a ton of low opportunity cost abusers like slowbro (and slowbro-mega), keldeo, manaphy, keldeo, and keldeo. it's the worst.

    honorable mentions to knock off, u-turn, and v-create.
     
    - Scald
    - Knock Off
    - Pixelate
    - Shadow Tag

    I know the thread says "most hated move" not ability - but I have to second pixellate. If it just converted normal to fairy, I don't think I'd mind as much - but normal to fairy, and +30% power (Fairly certain it's +30% power) is just crazy, and moreso with pixellate than aerialate or other things - because there IS NO 4 X FAIRY RESIST outside heatran. And I don't like where that puts Heatran. Or pixellate abusers, especially with hyper voice since both the primary ones got it. Just, please game freak - next gen, if pixellate is gonna continue to be so strong - seventh gen. Poison / Steel. Steel / Fire that's not heatran. Poison / Fire. Make at least one of those happen, please.

    As for moves, subs are annoying but I mean, there's ways to deal with them. Taunt. Encore. Sound moves. Status, since if they have to use sub every turn they're probably not healing enough to do it sustainably.

    I probably have a loathing for hyper voice because of pixellate too.
     
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