"You're all fags"

tbh, i hate it ! And yes i have done something about it. I have a friend who is gay. tbh, he's my best friend. This one time, we had been saving money for a month, and went on this long road trip just for fun. Of course, my friends dresses funny. I don't mind cause i never actually cared about looks, and i don't believe in feeling embaressed travellig with someone who dresses weird. We stopped at a gas station, and a couple guys called him a "fagget" ! My friend looked at him, then turned away and said lets go ! We walked away trying to avoid it, yet our attempt failed. One of the guys said something like: "Yeah walk away freak, wouldn't want your cute face to get cut no would you, leave with your faggy friend". I wasn't annoyed by them insulting me, but by how they could actually make fun of someone cause he's gay. I turned around and threw a couple swears. There were 5 of them, and two of us. A fight started quickly cause they can't let their 'dignity' get hurt. I personally gor beat up bad, and my friend was hurt bad too. I felt soooooooo good. Regardless, we had a great road trip, and didn't talk about what happened since. Personally, i'm pretty sure what happened tightened our bond. A LOT !! And i would be more than ready to do it again and again. Some people just annoy me.
 
JimJams said:
Well, my boyfriend (and many of my friends) and I call each other fags all the time, so I'm usually fine with that one, and will laugh if someone tries to use it in a derogatory way.

However, I do feel offended when people who know absolutely nothing about transsexuality or gender variance in general use slurs in casual conversation such as 'Tranny' 'He-she', etc. Also using these terms interchangeably to refer to cross dressers and drag performers.

I also cringe when people who do know that I'm transgender and a little bit about it use those terms to refer to me in a lighthearted way, because I don't identify as a transgender person so much as I do a man. In fact I tend to occasionally forget that I'm even trans and not just a regular cisgender guy.. So I'm unlike a lot of trans folks in that sense I guess.
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I feel the same way, being someone who identifies with both genders. It's not like I'm uncomfortable in my own body, but I don't feel strongly either way, and I enjoy expressing one way or other depending on who I am around. I know what it's like to forget I'm not "normal" in that sense.

I tend to dislike it when people throw slurs like that around in a pejorative way. It's not necessary to demean people like that. I also don't like it when someone explodes because someone used a slur or epithet in a real discussion to refer to something else, or to describe the type of person who DOES fit the word or phrases' meaning, and didn't use it to insult a group of people or someone, or imply that such a person exists.

Words are words, and while they don't break real bones, or leave real cuts or bruises...they still do damage, on the mental and emotional level. They should be respected as you would respect any non-lethal weapon, without being ridiculous or overly zealous.

Personally, I don't tolerate my friends using such slurs on me. It isn't cool, not even if you're jesting. It's fine if you're having a mature discussion though. My real friends know who I am in both senses though.


tl;dr:
I'm all for Political Correctness, just don't take it too far. There's an appropriate time to be PC, and there's times when it's not necessary as well. It's foolish to be offended by lack of PC when it wasn't necessary in the first place.
 
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I freely use all derogatory terms, swears and slurs that I know. It's not directed at anybody and anyone who gets offended over a word just needs to chill out. I make racist jokes with black friends, whites are horrified. Me and my gay friend call other fags all the time, straights are horrified. And yet I'll be the first to stand up for anyone of any sexuality, race, religion etc. in a serious debate.
 
Well I wouldn't be offended at all : ) if you're my friends lol, especially those if you joke around with me a lot! Lol even if you're the nice one all the time, and you just said that, I would look at you then laugh it off, since that was random lol, but if you're a random person.. then um no I would give you mean things about you that you never have noticed before, since I'm brutal if you want lol

and Fireworks of course lol, if you have a person walk up to you and say you're a ~badword~ then um wouldn't you get offended too? Lol
 
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Well quite frankly a word loses meaning like that. If you don't put any feeling behind it then it's just a word and that's how it is in most cases.

I personally try to avoid them. On the outward front, I'd claim that I'm too good to stoop that low. However, in actuality... I just want to avoid conflict ^-^' It also just makes me frown.
 
Well I dislike anything that has to do with certain body parts or a -philia or stoof, but I actually like it when people call things "gay" or "bi" because really, how long have gay people been around? And have they done anything positive except for cause a lot of rioting and them protesting for rights and to be treated normal.
I say they should go to re-orientation camps, no matter how bad they may be.. It's disgusting. And I don't hear gay people calling straight people disgusting..
 
All just words. The words are not wrong, its the people that use them.
 
Mr. X said:
All just words. The words are not wrong, its the people that use them.
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But what qualifies "wrong" usage? Is it all usage, or hostile usage?
And isn't this easier to say than actually follow through on in the end?
 
A word means only what people assign to it.

Rafmat. Guess what, this means meat. Why? Because I say it does.


Thats how all words are. Just a collection of letters that someone assigned a meaning to. How the word is used means nothing. All that matters is what people beleive it to mean.
 
Mr. X said:
A word means only what people assign to it.

Rafmat. Guess what, this means meat. Why? Because I say it does.


Thats how all words are. Just a collection of letters that someone assigned a meaning to. How the word is used means nothing. All that matters is what people beleive it to mean.
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I understand that, but does that put blame on the person uttering the word, or the person offended?
 
Both.

Personally, I believe that gay and fags will have entirely diffrent meanings in around 30 or 40 years. And yes, this statement is just to get past the character limit.
 
Well say that you replaced "fags" with the infamous "n-word". Yeah, our culture has bombarded us to never actually say the n-word therefor, as you can see I am wired to be afraid to say the n word. With fags, I hear people use that as an insult, and no one in looks over and is like you said the f word, well not ****, but the other f-word. More and more you also hear people say " this is gay" in place of "this sucks". Being a gay guy it kind of offends me, but I try to place it in context, they mean to say "this sucks" or "you are all losers" rather than " you are all fags". But I will actually become offended if you went up to me and said "you're a fag" and the intention is to mean "you are an abomination, disgusting, sexual deviant..." But yeah, it is not the phrasing as much as the way they say it. Props to anyone who can understand my jumbled thoughts.
 
I have a joke about fag (The word, not the meaning) but I can't tell it.

As for the infamous N-Word, its hipocritical. Blacks can use it without fear. Other people can't. (There was a black guy in one of my classes. He shouted that word every chance. He also conned me into joining NWA which is basicly N-words With Attitude... And im white.)
 
Mr. X said:
I have a joke about fag (The word, not the meaning) but I can't tell it.

As for the infamous N-Word, its hipocritical. Blacks can use it without fear. Other people can't. (There was a black guy in one of my classes. He shouted that word every chance. He also conned me into joining NWA which is basicly N-words With Attitude... And im white.)
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I know plenty of gay people who say "fag" all the time too, though.
 
I cringe at homosexuals referring to themselves with slurs the same as I cringe at black people doing it.
 
I tend not to mind either, actually.
Though, it's not always self-referential. Still the same though.
 
Mr. X said:
All just words. The words are not wrong, its the people that use them.
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People need to just remember this.

When 12 year old boys use the word on COD, they just prove that they're losers that can't think of another word.

When people with hatred against the homosexual use it then it has a more sinister meaning.

Actually, I think that many people younger don't even know what the word means. I didn't know what it meant until I was 16-ish and even then I picked up the word from other people that may or may not have known what it meant. I've stopped using it since unless paired with another word that disqualifies the homosexual attribute, like "phobofag" for a little twist D:
 
I dislike people using it as a simple insult; it makes the user look both unintelligent and lexically challenged, and one could really do better to avoid seeming like either case. If one is using it without real malintent, however, and is generally careful not to offend other people when the word is being utilized I believe it is nothing too serious.

Sort of like other swear words. : U Sure it carries a negative connotation, and you could find a large quantity of superior expressions to replace it, but if it's used carefully then I don't have too many problems with it.
 
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