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Magmarizer said:
Its not humaine to kill... Hmmm then what is the death penalty?
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Yes it is. It's how you kill that makes it humane.

If you kill a murderer by injecting him with poison, that causes no pain for him, that's a humane way.

If you kill them in an electric chair, that's not.

It's in human nature to kill. You know why? Because we're animals. We're omnivores, that means we used to hunt and kill for food, as well as eat berries and vegetables.

We're just smarter than that.
 
Surmonter said:
Yes it is. It's how you kill that makes it humane.

If you kill a murderer by injecting him with poison, that causes no pain for him, that's a humane way.

If you kill them in an electric chair, that's not.
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Were not talking about a dog. There is no humane way to kill a human, its inherently inhumane to deicde that you should live but some other guy should die, no matter what they did.
It's in human nature to kill. You know why? Because we're animals. We're omnivores, that means we used to hunt and kill for food, as well as eat berries and vegetables.

We're just smarter than that.
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I agree. We are civilized. We dont need to individualy kill for food any more. Thats why we have a supermarket.
 
There are worse things then death. Personally I find rotting in a jail sell for a life sentence to be one. Therefore I don't find the death penalty to be especially cruel. Also they don't just hand out the death sentence for petty crimes they go to terrible criminals.
 
If you put someone in jail for decades and you find out evidence that proves he was completely innocent, you can get him out of jail. If you have killed him, you will have solved an injustice with an even worse injustice (killing off a random guy who had nothing to do with whatever crime you were punishing him for). So I'd stick to jail.
 
Well not where I live. I think that you deserve it if you killed somebody. 1st degree murder = killed :/
 
Off with their heads! Alice in Wonderland?

I'd rather have them locked up in a jail, than sentence them a death penalty. If they were proven innocent, they can continue with their life.
 
I think I prefer life without parole to the death penalty, though I'm sure there's situations that could sway me otherwise.
 
I believe if you're a pedophile rapist or a serial killer, you deserve the death penalty. The would is better off without you. With these two crimes, it is close to impossible to get it out of their system...if many people can be saved by putting an end to someone who doesn't put a value on life in the first place, it's for the best imo.

And life in prison costs a lot on a side note, countries can't afford that. Might as well put them all on an island...
 
Depends on the situation. Now, countries that execute people for things like drug smuggling (Bangladesh, Iraq, etc.) are retarded.
 
GFA said:
That was incredibly rascist.
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...how is that racist? Illegal immigrants. See the word illegal? It means not legal. They shouldn't even be in the country in the first place. lulz.

Oh, my view. Personally I think it should be allowed, but only for the most extreme cases, such as child traffcking. Murder, no.
 
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Hmm...

1. Nobody escapes alive anyway, so killing an innocent is just letting him out early. (Lulz, I'm not a fatalist. That was a joke.)

2. The Chair is actually probably one of the most 'humane' ways, if done properly, as the victim is essentially brain dead in under a second. Injection, however, is much worse, it's been theorized.

3. Leave a man in prison and he'll probably just get killed in prison. Same result, different paths.

...yeah.

Please don't take any of that too seriously.
 
Shanghai Alice said:
Hmm...

1. Nobody escapes alive anyway, so killing an innocent is just letting him out early. (Lulz, I'm not a fatalist. That was a joke.)

2. The Chair is actually probably one of the most 'humane' ways, if done properly, as the victim is essentially brain dead in under a second. Injection, however, is much worse, it's been theorized.

3. Leave a man in prison and he'll probably just get killed in prison. Same result, different paths.

...yeah.

Please don't take any of that too seriously.
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xD haha.

Sometimes i think people don't realize the gravity of that. Death will come to everyone, sooner or later. We as a culture have trouble accepting the grim reality of that. But how and when it comes its the discussion.

If i ran the prison system, id have them all in solitary confinement, it would eliminate the vigilante justice, and the maximum effect of the saying "letting them rot in prison" could be realized.
 
I don't think that death is a real punishment. They should shoot people in the spine instead.
 
Shake said:
I don't think that death is a real punishment. They should shoot people in the spine instead.
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But then they'd be paralyzed. being trapped in your own body, being nothing but a shell, incapable of basic human function is a fate worse than death, but something i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. :/ its really a terrible way to exist.

There are far worse things you can do to someone than inflict bodily harm, much worse things.
 
I support the death penalty but only in the most extreme of cases. I think it is only a suitable punishment in cases of murder and multiple offenses of rape.

A life in jail without parole is usually the way to go, I think. But there are situations, albeit very few, that call for harsher punishment. While the whole "what if they're later proven innocent" thing is a cause for concern, this happens rarely enough that this is most certainly the exception and not the rule, and so isn't even a very legitimate point in opposing the death penalty, I think.

Also -- to those who say that it's not "our place" to choose whether someone lives or dies: what about the victims who died at the murderer's hands? Did they get a choice in whether they lived or died? No. They were killed and they didn't have a say in that. The way I see it, the moment you decide to take another person's life, you forfeit control over your own life. The moment you decide you have the authority to kill a human being, you cease to be a human being yourself, and you've become a menace to society and don't deserve to continue living your life.

And that is why I think the death penalty is acceptable in such cases.
 
Kleinchen said:
I support the death penalty but only in the most extreme of cases. I think it is only a suitable punishment in cases of murder and multiple offenses of rape.

A life in jail without parole is usually the way to go, I think. But there are situations, albeit very few, that call for harsher punishment. While the whole "what if they're later proven innocent" thing is a cause for concern, this happens rarely enough that this is most certainly the exception and not the rule, and so isn't even a very legitimate point in opposing the death penalty, I think.

Also -- to those who say that it's not "our place" to choose whether someone lives or dies: what about the victims who died at the murderer's hands? Did they get a choice in whether they lived or died? No. They were killed and they didn't have a say in that. The way I see it, the moment you decide to take another person's life, you forfeit control over your own life. The moment you decide you have the authority to kill a human being, you cease to be a human being yourself, and you've become a menace to society and don't deserve to continue living your life.

And that is why I think the death penalty is acceptable in such cases.
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i agree perfectly with that statement. I would like to point out that the people that get convicted of crimes, that are truly innocent, are from crimes dating before the advent of genetic testing. I rarely hear of stories where the DNA incriminated the wrong person.
 
Two-sided about this topic. If someone goes over to say, Singapore, and decides to try and smuggle in cocaine or another drug, and they get sentenced to the death penalty, I believe that they should suffer that consequence. It's common knowledge that most countries have different rules and regulations.

However for something like murder, I think that a lifetime of community service would be better than the death penalty or jail.
 
Death penalty is fine in some cases, but not all. I believe you have to look at it from a case-by-base basis. It should be legal, but not abused. There's people out there who we don't need and we should get rid from in any way possible regardless of their being human, simply because they are how they are, they do what they do, and they're not going to chance regardless of what treatment they are given (if any) or what institution they're put in (if any); if this is the case, shoot away. We don't need scum that won't change their ways.

But more often than not, criminals are not black and white. Most of them should be given a second chance. In their case, not only do I believe that the death penalty shouldn't be an option, but actually, jail isn't that great an option either. Most jails don't actually do anything to correct the lifestyle or the ways of the criminals that they house, or at least in my opinion they don't go about it the wrong way, which ultimately means society loses money for harbouring criminals whose prison system isn't doing anything much (if at all) to actually help them.

And once you're actually out of jail? Oh boy, all the stigma and the looks. Not to mention, good luck finding a job. :\ So they go back to their criminal ways.

...Alright, so I went slightly off-topic, but either way, the point is that death penalty should be legal but not abused and overused. In most cases, it's just not necessary.
 
Sorry guys, too lazy to reconstruct a post that parrots what I wrote last year, so instead I'll just copypaste.

I was replying to a chap named Mence Master, who said:
For those that believe in human life, should those who murder hundreds, even thousands be left alive?
Should Bin Laden live?
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My response was:

I know a lot of people are going to lose respect for me for what I'm about to say and that I'll problem get neg-repped so hard I'll have five red blocks, but yes. Human life is (as Nick put it) sacred. It doesn't matter how much wrongdoing someone has committed in his life, we shouldn't kill as a punishment. We claim that the killing of nearly four thousand people is a bad thing, but by killing the person behind that act, are we serving justice or just becoming the monster Bin Laden is?

Let whoever it is rot in a prison cell for the rest of his life; maybe that will give him the chance to realise what he's done wrong. By ending his life, we aren't letting him realise what he's done wrong, we're just showing him what we think should happen to him.

People who have done something against the law are put in jail in the hopes that they'll learn their lesson. If you kill someone, how will that person ever learn his lesson?
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Just gonna make a small addendum; after researching numerous cases of cold-blooded murder, I'm gonna say it's a pretty fine line between whether psychopaths or extremists should be let live. Would you let the Columbine murders deal with a lifelong prison sentence if they hadn't committed suicide? If the Islamic extremists who caused 9/11 were willing to die for their cause, is it possible that their minds would ever be able to show them they were in the wrong? John Lennon's killer, Mark Chapman, has said he regrets what he did. Charles Mason still insists his followers did nothing wrong when they killed someone for no reason. Is it worth keeping deluded in prison for the rest of their lives when they may never see sense? That's a moral conflict inside and I just can't answer it so (once again) sorry.
 
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