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6th Gen Confirmed Information Discussion

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    I'm pretty sure Mega Metagross will get the Iron Fist ability. Look at these arms! (And he's steel type, good job GF). Metagross can learn 8 moves boosted by Iron Fist; Bullet Punch, DynamicPunch (Move tutor Emerald), Hammer Arm, Meteor Mash, Power-up Punch, Ice Punch and Thunder Punch (both move tutor Emerald). Fun fact; No Pokémon with the Iron Fist ability is capable of learning Meteor Mash, so it's a good game here by GF.

    Is it?
    He's one of the ones that was difficult to figure out which his ace was...Shiftry, Cacturne, Absol, and Mightyena were all options for his ace when I was playing the game. I hope it does, Mega Shiftry is on my Mega wish list.

    Absol was his signature Pokémon, as it was his highest leveled Pokémon.
     
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    I think perhaps all their ace's final forms getting Megas are on the cards...well for those with aces without Megas.

    I'm not so sure about that, the Gym Leaders or Elite Four didn't use Megas but the Champion, villainous team leader and even the main rival did. And nope, Korrina's Mega Lucario doesn't count since she only uses that in the Mega Evolution tutorial and the rematches in the Battle Chateau.

    At this rate, I know Steven will be using Mega Metagross, Archie using Mega Sharpedo, Maxie using Mega Camerupt and Brendan/May using Mega Sceptile/Blaziken/Swampert. I really do hope Brendan/May can get better rival treatment this time around, since they never fully evolved their starter in the original games. If they do still decide to retire from being your rival, Wally having a Mega Gardevoir could be a possibility as well.

    I'm pretty sure Mega Metagross will get the Iron Fist ability. Look at these arms! (And he's steel type, good job GF). Metagross can learn 7 moves boosted by Iron Fist; Bullet Punch, DynamicPunch (Move tutor Emerald), Hammer Arm, Meteor Mash, Ice Punch and Thunder Punch (both move tutor Emerald). Fun fact; No Pokémon with the Iron Fist ability is capable of learning Meteor Mash, so it's a good game here by GF.

    That's actually a good idea, given it can learn lots of punching moves plus the fact Meteor Mash can't be learned by any of the current Iron Fist users it should definitely make Mega Metagross a good candidate. The base power of Meteor Mash did get weakened this generation so I hope the boost from the ability can make up for that.

    Please Game Freak, don't screw this one up.
     

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    I'm pretty sure Mega Metagross will get the Iron Fist ability. Look at these arms! (And he's steel type, good job GF). Metagross can learn 7 moves boosted by Iron Fist; Bullet Punch, DynamicPunch (Move tutor Emerald), Hammer Arm, Meteor Mash, Ice Punch and Thunder Punch (both move tutor Emerald). Fun fact; No Pokémon with the Iron Fist ability is capable of learning Meteor Mash, so it's a good game here by GF.



    Absol was his signature Pokémon, as it was his highest leveled Pokémon.

    I don't think that the ace is always the highest leveled Pokemon. Lysander's ace is his Pyroar (just look at his hair and his Team's name) yet it wasn't his highest leveled Pokemon.

    I hope for Iron fist too. Especially if Dynamic Punch returns as a move tutor move. Also it's Meteor Mash could use a boost seeing how it's no longer the only one to have it. So for it to be the only Meteor Mash knowing Pokemon to have Iron Fist would make it special again.
     

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    I'm pretty sure Mega Metagross will get the Iron Fist ability. Look at these arms! (And he's steel type, good job GF). Metagross can learn 7 moves boosted by Iron Fist; Bullet Punch, DynamicPunch (Move tutor Emerald), Hammer Arm, Meteor Mash, Ice Punch and Thunder Punch (both move tutor Emerald). Fun fact; No Pokémon with the Iron Fist ability is capable of learning Meteor Mash, so it's a good game here by GF.



    Absol was his signature Pokémon, as it was his highest leveled Pokémon.

    In the screenshot the ability name has 5 characters, so Iron Fist is out, since Iron Fist has 6 characters. My guess is that it gets Tough Claws.
     
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    In the screenshot the ability name has 5 characters, so Iron Fist is out, since Iron Fist has 6 characters. My guess is that it gets Tough Claws.

    Tough Claws wouldn't be too bad either, despite two other Megas already having the ability. Still, most of the moves mentioned earlier will get the boost due to being contact-based and it's mostly a physical attacker so yeah I'm happy with it if that's the case.

    I might have to take a closer look at the CoroCoro scan and see what Japanese name that corresponds to and maybe I might be able to find out the ability from there. Although I may struggle since I'm terrible at reading any non-English language.
     

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    So could we expect Mega Glalie, Mega Shiftry, Mega Dusclops (or Dusknoir?) and Mega Salamence. I wouldn't really expect that many Hoenn Pokémon to receive Megas, otherwise they would be taking the concept a little too far IMO. The amount they've revealed so far is great, but I'd be happy with them alone, perhaps in addition to Mega Shiftry & Ludicolo ofc.
     
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    In RSE I didn't really see Brendan/May as your rival because they didn't fully evolve their starters and didn't really give off a "rival" feel. They were more like friendly neighbors who'd help you from time to time and occasionally battle. That being said, I'm hoping the male/fem. protags. in ORAS get to do more/get more involved in the plot; only then can I see them utilizing Mega Evos.

    re: Mega Meta's Ability, Tough Claws > Iron Fist because it affects more moves and boosts their power by 33% whereas Iron Fist only provides a 20% boost to punching moves. If the listed Ability is five characters (I tried to look to see where it was on the wide scan, but it was too blurry, orz), then I'm hoping it is Tough Claws for that reason.

    @^ I doubt GF would give a Mega to a not fully evolved Pokemon, so if the Duskull line got one, it'd go to Dusknoir.
     
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    In the screenshot the ability name has 5 characters, so Iron Fist is out, since Iron Fist has 6 characters. My guess is that it gets Tough Claws.

    That's some good Japanese skills you got there ;)

    Well that's a bummer actually :/ Tough Claws is just too OP imo.
     

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    In the screenshot the ability name has 5 characters, so Iron Fist is out, since Iron Fist has 6 characters. My guess is that it gets Tough Claws.

    Now that I think about it Tough Claws wouldn't be all that bad either. Plus it has a lot of claws at it's disposal... and it seems to have more contact moves than the other 3 who have the ability.
     
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    Now that I think about it Tough Claws wouldn't be all that bad either. Plus it has a lot of claws at it's disposal... and it seems to have more contact moves than the other 3 who have the ability.

    Wow, it actually learns that many contact moves... looks like ability will be nice for it after all, thanks to the detective work from Keiran there. Also, as Yato said the power boosts between Iron Fist and Tough Claws are noticeable - a 33% boost to contact-based moves as opposed to a 20% boost for just punching moves.

    Given Metagross fell out of OU tier this generation (blame this on Steel losing its Dark/Ghost resistance), maybe this Mega can help give it competitive relevance again if it's going to get a power boost to pretty much a majority of its best moves. As for stat boosts, I'm expecting it to be in Attack and both its defenses.
     

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    Wow, it actually learns that many contact moves... looks like ability will be nice for it after all, thanks to the detective work from Keiran there. Also, as Yato said the power boosts between Iron Fist and Tough Claws are noticeable - a 33% boost to contact-based moves as opposed to a 20% boost for just punching moves.

    Given Metagross fell out of OU tier this generation (blame this on Steel losing its Dark/Ghost resistance), maybe this Mega can help give it competitive relevance again if it's going to get a power boost to pretty much a majority of its best moves. As for stat boosts, I'm expecting it to be in Attack and both its defenses.

    I hope so. Some have theorized it may have levitate but that has only 3 characters so that can't be it either. I hope that it gains a boost in speed.
    Perhaps it's ability is a new one too? There's always that possibility.
     
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    I hope so. Some have theorized it may have levitate but that has only 3 characters so that can't be it either. I hope that it gains a boost in speed.
    Perhaps it's ability is a new one too? There's always that possibility.

    I don't know whereabouts in the CoroCoro scan the ability is mentioned but Keiran mentioned it was a 5 character name, I guess could try and compare that to the Japanese characters of existing abilities and see if it matches those or if it's going to be a new ability entirely.

    But as I mentioned earlier I'm really terrible at reading Japanese so yeah gonna be a bit hard.
     
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    I would assume it'd be right below Mega Metagross's artwork here:

    Confirmed Information Discussion


    After all, Metagross's Ability and typing is listed next to its art. (You can't see it in this screenshot, but you can in the other.) I think it might be the third line because the second one looks like it's listing its types.
     

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    I would assume it'd be right below Mega Metagross's artwork here:

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    After all, Metagross's Ability and typing is listed next to its art. (You can't see it in this screenshot, but you can in the other.) I think it might be the third line because the second one looks like it's listing its type.

    The quality of it isn't good enough for me to make them out :( Guess we'll have to wait for the rest of the scans or someone with better scans to translate it themselves.
     

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    The pictures of Mega Metagross which have been released so far seem to look as if its body is made in an awkward way. Hopefully it will be updated and improved on, if possible. However, it may just be because the quality and angle of the photo is not good. A lot of the Mega Pokémon so far have disappointed me and it seems as if they're just making ... too many.
     
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    Even though it's blurry, it doesn't look like the kana forms the Katakana for Analytic. However, that would be a good Ability for it, too, especially if it gets a drop in Speed. Its base Speed stat is 70, which is pretty mediocre (especially in terms of competitive battling), so if it dropped more Analytic would help. (Plus, Analytic provides the same power boost as Tough Claws (30%) but would affect powerful, non-contact Physical moves like Earthquake, too.) Of course, the downside to Mega Metagross being made slower is that other faster Pokemon could unleash super effective attacks against it, though if its Defenses are boosted a lot, that might not be too big an issue.
     

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    "The text is small, but we're working on translating. It appears that it's Mega Evolution remains Steel/Psychic, with Tough Claws. Although it is hard to make out, attack or speed seem to be the stat that has a significant increase in when mega evolving.Steven retains his title of champion."

    Looking most likely that the ability is in fact Tough Claws.
     
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