I am a bit dissappointed how my character doesn't come up when you talk about the super heroes versus things.
To be honest, people think Nerites is so overpowered, she's actually weak, really weak, with probably only one (depending on unknown backstory, there might be more but then they'd be more Super Heroes like sea champion) believer, so when people think that Nerites is my liabilty, I am hers. If you defeat me, she loses her only source of energy from her believers
I am not a sidekick. I think that character isn't that... great. You say he's the underdog but he's powerful, well I just think of the Angsty drug taking anti-hero/hero is a bit overused. It almost screams most animé ever. Not to mention all the anti-hero abilities that's a bit over powered also.
You might think I'm jealous or something, it is just that I was never creating a sidekick but a hero that works co-dependantly with Nerites, I actually inspired the connection we have, not a tag on at the end. And I am just telling you my opionion of that anime character or whatever. Roleplaying them could go bad, having their angst turn sour. I admit, I am not particularly fond of people obsessing over anime like Deathnote and SAO, for a couple of reasons. But I just think Emo Characters and Emo Storylines in anime are too overused and strangely obsessed over.
Rant over.
Although, what do you think of my character being able to regenerate health in two places, the Dead Sea, due to his backstory, and perhaps in a lake where he was born or something.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's just take a step back here.
Nobody was saying that your character was overpowered or underpowered or anything of the sort. Nor was anybody trying to say that your character was in any way just a liability or vice versa to Nerine. Nor did anybody ever even attempt to say that your character was just a "sidekick".
I described a scenario where Renegade fought against Nerine because that is what was offered to me by MI, I was describing why Renegade could put up a fight against those characters presented and why he was a worthwhile combatant. Your character wasn't mentioned at any point so I didn't discuss him.
Yet you describe my character as bad and try to cover it up with niceties like "not that great". Following this, you give your reasoning for him being bad by claiming he's a stereotype.
Well then sir, allow me to please bring forth a counter to that.
You are reading the very basic details about the character and then automatically assuming that he is an angst filled teenage stereotype batman rip-off.
The drug abuse is a part of his character and it isn't done because he is some two bit emo druggy, it's done as a necessary extension of his powers to allow him to fight for extended periods of time. In doing so he is slowly killing himself and the intent is for this to add character development as Renegade attempts to fight again and again while slowly realizing that the more he does, the weaker he gets. It's a metaphor for the kind of person he is and what he's doing to himself mentally. He's pushing himself to the limit to do what he thinks is right, but he's failing to realize that he's not perfect and that his methods are flawed. Even realizing this, he continues to slowly grow addicted to the adrenaline willingly, not because he's some dark and edgy character but because he feels that he has to do what he has to do to keep the city safe. Even if that means depriving himself.
This character is not a stereotype at all and apart from the fact that he is antisocial there is no comparison you can draw that I can not refute.
Edward is a twisted individual whom views all super-powered entities as a threat and as such has developed a bit of a messiah complex as he believes he is the only one capable of removing said individuals from the city by fighting fire with fire. He is intelligent and tactful with the best intentions at heart, but his slight twist of insanity threatens to pull him into a darker path as a villain if he is not brought to his senses before a certain part of the story.
He's not emo at all. He's tormented yes, but he doesn't sit around all day crying about his feelings, nor does he really dwell on them when he can help it. He forces himself to get things done regardless of what happened before and this drive often stretches him to his limits as a person and a hero both. In his dreams he is brought back to how he feels because in the end he's had a rather terrible time as will be revealed in his backstory. This is because his family is dead, not because he is a stereotype, in fact compared to stereotypes he deals with the situation pretty well.
In terms of other people he's antisocial yes, but this doesn't make him an emo. As Renegade he's almost clinical in the way he deals with other people. When he goes abck to being Edward everything he holds back starts to leak out and THAT is what leads to his mood swings, not an emo attitude and loathing self pity.
All of his "anti-hero abilities" are overpowered also? How are Chi control and echo-location in any way related to anti-heroes at all? I was actually quite proud of them as they felt unique compared to what other characters were choosing.
Roleplaying him could go bad? His "angst" could turn sour? If nothing else sir then I would please ask you to refrain from mentoring me in my roleplay abilities. I am more than capable of making this character work, I created him as he is, not only for my own personal taste, but for the sake of variety when compared to other characters present. I don't need your warnings about something I created with a plan ready in my mind.
If I'm being perfectly honest everything you've said about my character was of skin deep perception. I created Edward with much more than a stereotypical emo character template and in future I would advise you to pose your comments on other characters as suggestions and questions rather than as direct remarks on the quality of the character or the skill of the writer in theri ability to create original content.
I admit that I was offended by your words and thus a counter rant was inspired but I hope that now we can put an end to the issue as I have hopefully helped you (and all others whom viewed Renegade as a simple stereotype) to understand the purpose of Edward as a character much better than you previously did. I understand and accept that that was your opinion and I humbly request that you accept all that was previously stated as mine.
I apologize if I sounded or came across as bitter. But I have a horrible tendency of viciously defending what I create. T_T
Rant. Over.
I like this too, you've put a lot of thought into this. Smiley isn't stupid enough to have all of his copies at one location, and he wouldn't hesitate to kill one of his knocked out copies. I think they're way more evenly matched, although Renegade would have a bigger chance of winning, he wouldn't be able to actually kill Smiley. That's mostly Smiley's power, though, surviving, and he has to put a lot of effort in to take out strong super powered individuals, so he's kinda got a weird stat distribution. I mean, he wouldn't even try to touch Proto or Quantum, haha. Luckily they don't have to fight, though, haha.
Ahh very true! I hadn't considered the possibility of Smiley killing his own clones... that's actually very clever. It would add a nice sort of "capture the flag" element to the fight. With Renegade trying to capture and protect all of the Smileys without letting them die so that he could get them all together for the finisher.
Still you're right, they probably won't even end up fighting each other until much later on if ever. XD
Thank you for two things - justifying your character as not being the runt of the littter and ACTUALLY TELLING EVERYONE THAT NERITES ISN'T OP. I really like how you described that Regenade is very versatile in his combat - even more so than Nerites since he can easily take care of all three forms. If they were video game characters, Regenade and Hilda would be he all-across-the-board versatile warriors while people like Nerites and Quantum would be high risk, high reward sort of characters.
Also again it is completely fine to use character archetypes. Yes, they are common, but for a reason. We have the alien hero, the "just leave me alone I want to live normally" hero, the brooding badass batman hero, and ofc the classy pimp (I JUST noticed pimpman's organization is called TEA.) gg no re MI, gg no re.
Haha, well as you can probably see I'm always ready to jump in the line of fire and protect my characters as civilly as I can manage. ^^'' I like your perception of things as well, just because somebody seems weaker doesn't mean they are. Renegade is much more versatile than might be apparent from a first read of his SU.
