News: Pokémon BDSP's map artwork suggests no Battle Frontier

Disappointing. It's not a confirmation, mind, but it is a big note against the BF returning. =(

yeah, i've long given up hope of a battle frontier ever returning. it's just a shame since having a rehashed battle tower every game is boring, but it is what it is. i hope the post-game has something of substance, though.

No Battle Frontier was to be expected since they haven't seemed to want to bother with it for generations now, plus how the BF wasn't in the original Diamond/Pearl, only Platinum.

The strange thing to me is why the Pal Park is on the map. It served exactly one purpose and is no longer necessary now given the existence of HOME and Bank and all that. So is it going to serve some new purpose now, or are they gonna be weird and have an NPC be like "back in the day we used this to transfer Pokemon" and is just wasted space

Dissapointing, but not at all surprising. Just hope they don't rub it in our faces like they did in ORAS with the Battle Frontier Project.

I literally don't care at all and still plan on buying and playing one of these games (likely Diamond)

But it'll just be a matter of time before the whiny complaints return about how it 'should have been in' and how people will call the game 'trash' just because it's not in and will 'refuse to buy it' due to this.

inb4 that starts soon. 🙄

While disappointing, it shouldn't surprise anyone at this point.

What is the difference between battle frontier and battle tower?

Cloud9Skywalker said:

What is the difference between battle frontier and battle tower?

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The Frontier is an area that has multiple different facilities in it, including the Battle Tower. The other facilities usually have gimmicks, special rules, etc instead of consisting of standard battles.

surely that can't be right? there's no way they could mess that up again?!
right??

this should be a slam dunk, everything fans wanted, following pokemon, pokemon seals, character customization, contests,
surely they couldn't not know people would want/expect the battle frontier.

I'm just gonna believe it'll be there for now.

I don't think I've ever used the Battle Frontier, but I know lots of people were looking forward to it. At this point I just wonder why they're so against it, is it just too hard to code or something? Or maybe they think it's too complicated for their target audience of little kids? Seems farfetched but who knows.

Honestly when they dropped the battle frontier from ORAS I took that as the end of days for a lot of effort going into the post game battles. I think they've expecting people to play online with friends moreso instead of playing against NPCs so at most we'll get a battle tower again and at worse we'll get some watered down version of it shoehorned into the end of some route people have forgotten about.

I am not surprised at this at all. I also agree with the above post. When they removed it from ORAS, I just knew that it was going to be the end of days for effort going into post game battles. I never really expected to see it make a return. I do not play online with friends or people, so would have preferred they kept doing a Battle Frontier.

it should be noted for everyone in this thread, that the platinum sinnoh map didn't have the Battle Frontier on it either...

that isn't to say it's going to be in the game, but there's precedence for this occurring way back then too.. it's not set in stone.

I wish we can get an interview or something with the directors(?) where they can talk about some of their game decisions. I know the Western fanbase has been pretty vocal about wanting the Battle Frontier but maybe it's different for Japanese players? I'd like to know the thought process that went in the production of these games.

I've honestly never done the battle frontier in any game... So I wouldn't miss it as I don't know what I'm missing xD

Empoleon671 said:

it should be noted for everyone in this thread, that the platinum sinnoh map didn't have the Battle Frontier on it either...

that isn't to say it's going to be in the game, but there's precedence for this occurring way back then too.. it's not set in stone.

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Indeed, and this is noted in the article as well. That said, the original map in Platinum obscured the area with clouds - so they basically hid the BF on purpose for a reveal (and the uncovered version has no buildings at all). Now we just see a Battle Tower in the remake map.

adventure said:

I've honestly never done the battle frontier in any game... So I wouldn't miss it as I don't know what I'm missing xD

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Basically it was a bunch of postgame challenges and modes to take on. You'd have a facility where you could rent Pokemon and swap them out, another where you try to take on set monotype teams in consecutive 1-on-1 battles, and even a roulette/arcade sort of game player between each battle, so some timing and strategy involved outside of the battles themselves. Plenty of content.

The Tower meanwhile is just a straight up 'try to beat as many teams as you can before losing', with points given out each battle (and more for beating bosses at the end of sets of 7). Fine but no bells or whistles, and it's more or less the same thing every game (the battle subway in gen 5, the battle tree in gen 7, etc... just a different setting for the same concept and execution.)

ah, I think I found it a pity that I couldn't use my own pokémon yeah. And since a big part of playing pokémon for me is getting attached to my team, that was a deal breaker xD

Personally, the only Battle Frontier I ever did and enjoyed was back in Emerald but I'm not all suprised that it doesn't seems to be in BDSP. After it not being in ORAS, I'd be more suprised if it did make a return tbh...

Masuda doesn't like the Frontier and he is helping development on these games. It isn't going to be there. Did people even enjoy 4th Gen Battle Frontier? Because Emerald Frontier is what I've always seen people want.

That being said, if it didn't come back in ORAS, people shouldn't expect it now. It just isn't going to happen.