2016 US Presidential Elections Thread [Trump Wins]

[Klippy]

He would not join her ticket. And she would never offer him a position that could potentially result in the presidency. He represents everything she and the corporate interests hate.

 

[Her]

I'm aware, but a girl can dream!

 

[Neil Peart]

Could you imagine Hillary choosing Elizabeth Warren as her running mate? That would be amazing.

 

[Klippy]

Elizabeth Warren would never join her ticket. :P She's pretty solidly similar to Bernie.

Also some good news for Sanders supporters. He's projected to win almost ALL remaining primaries. This means if his supporters fight hard, he fights hard, does well in debates, and Hillary performs poorly, the nomination isn't lost yet.

 

[Netto Azure]

LOL I'm just watching for the popcorn worthy fun.

Though the calls to drop will be a bit louder now. Though I just don't see how that would be beneficial in the long run.

 

[Ivysaur]

Trump just won NC and Illinois, but Kasich, the Governor of my state, carried Ohio, lmao. Which means we're basically headed for a contested convention later this summer. I didn't forsee Hilary sweeping so far, though. Illinois is still too close to call.

Nooot exactly. Looking at the 538 delegate tracker, and by my delegate calculations for Il (and waiting for Mo's results), Trump is barely 27 delegates off his path to the majority- could get that down to 22, depending on how Mo goes, if he keeps the lead there. Considering that (most of) Rubio's 163 delegates are now unbound, and some will be redistributed between the remaining candidates, it's pretty likely that he'll close the gap shortly enough. And if Trump really gets to the convention only 27 delegates short of a majority, with over 200 unbound delegates up for grabs, it's hard to imagine him not getting any.

 

[Neil Peart]

We may have a brokered convention on our hands, folks.

 

[Kanzler]

How big is the risk of Hillary Clinton being indicted and how could it affect the Democratic nomination and the Presidential race if it occurs?

 

[Kanzler]

Just injecting some humour in this thread:

It's Over Gandalf. We Need to Unite Behind Saruman to Save Middle Earth from Sauron!

I've been on Team Gandalf ever since he first visited the Shire. It was so nice to see a wizard who was truly a wizard of the people. The kind of wizard who wouldn't even throw you in a dungeon for smoking a little Longbottom Leaf or Old Toby. Here was a wizard who didn't have a big fancy tower. His staff and cloak were rather plain and grey. And he had quite a dream, didn't he?

Gandalf had the crazy idea that some little hobbits could stand up to and defy the power of the billionaire class Dark Lord Sauron. But I guess that was a pipe dream after all.

Gandalf failed. He got his ass locked up atop Saruman's tower when he foolishly defied the head of the Democratic Party council of wizards. And now that he's locked up it's not like some eagle is going to magically appear and rescue him. It's over. And now Saruman is our only hope against Sauron.

We need to stop saying nasty things about Saruman or it will be difficult to rally the people of Middle Earth to his side. Here are some things we should no longer mention, or if we do, we should put a positive spin on them so people will still see Saruman is our only hope.

• Saruman's Environmental Record: While it is true that Saruman has supported clear cutting huge ancient forests, and while an old hippie tree hugger like Treebeard might tell you lots of those trees were his friends, we ARE talking about trees here. And sure, Gandalf has a much better record on the environment but he's done now. It's time to focus on how much worse Sauron's environmental record is. I mean, have you seen Mordor?
  
  
• Saruman's Being in League With the Dark Lord: Okay, okay. It's true. Saruman did go to Sauron's wedding. But that was a LONG time ago when Sauron still had both eyes. And fake hair. It's also true that Saruman may have promised to do the dark lord's bidding and to find the ring of power and give it to Sauron. But c'mon! You know Saruman was just doing that because he plans to ultimately betray Sauron after he's done betraying us!
  
  
• Saruman Actively Seeks Out the Ring of Power, and the Ring of Power Has Only One Master and Is Evil. Gandalf says that is evidence you have to refuse to have anything at all to do with the Super PrACious at all. His biggest criticism of Saruman is that Saruman plans to try and use the ring. But that's just an artful smear on Gandalf's part, implying that Saruman doesn't have the integrity to be totally uninfluenced by the speaking fees one ring once he accepts it!
  
  
• Saruman Has Instigated Pre-Emptive War That Has Killed Thousands: Look, he only did that to prove his loyalty and toughness to Sauron so he could get some of that sweet, sweet ring of power. You know, the power we can totally trust him to use AGAINST Sauron later. Sometimes you have to burn a few villages in Rohan to save the world. Besides, it was all a misunderstanding. Saruman glimpsed in the palantir and thought he saw a spear of mass destruction being constructed at Helm's Deep. Cause you can totally trust what Sauron chooses to show you in the palantir.

So now you all have your talking points. Let's get out there and whip up support for Saruman! Saruman is the wisest and most powerful of the wizards and has the most experience! Saruman will not be influenced at all by the Super PrACious ring of power and will instead use its might to betray the one who made it. He totally is going to betray Sauron and not us.

So forget about Gandalf and his ridiculous plan involving little hobbits and actually giving up Wall Street money the ring of power. Only a fool would take on the power of Wall Street Mordor without it.

So it's time to say #I'mWithSar because Saruman isn't after the ring for himself, he's always been fighting for us. Thank you, Saruman, for bearing the heavy burden of all that Wall Street money the ring of power to save us from a fate even worse than you:

Remember, you might not like having to support Saruman but we live in a TWO TOWER system!

And I don't hate Saruman. Saruman makes me sad and a little angry. You know why? Because I'm with Tree Beard: "A wizard should know better."

source: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...hind-Saruman-to-Save-Middle-Earth-from-Sauron

 

[grassdragon]

My thoughts on the Presidential Election: What part of Canada should I move to.
This is the first presidential election where I haven't liked anybody....at all.

 

[Klippy]

That Gandalf/Saruman/Sauron post just makes me wholly more afraid of all of them, haha.

 

[Kanzler]

Now that it's very likely that Hillary will get the Democratic nomination, does anyone want to give a shot at figuring out who'd be the best candidate for the Republican nomination?

 

[gimmepie]

Now that it's very likely that Hillary will get the Democratic nomination, does anyone want to give a shot at figuring out who'd be the best candidate for the Republican nomination?

The best, or the most likely? From what I understand it looks like Trump is extremely likely to be the republican candidate. The best would be anyone who is not Trump.

 

[Kanzler]

The best, or the most likely? From what I understand it looks like Trump is extremely likely to be the republican candidate. The best would be anyone who is not Trump.

If it goes to a contested convention, then all bets are off, right? I think it's worth considering who'd be the best if it comes to the point where everybody can have a fighting chance again.

 

[Neil Peart]

If we get a brokered convention, Trump doesn't get the nomination, then breaks off and runs as a third party, changing everything forever.

 

[Kanzler]

Trump and Sanders both take back their pledge not to run as a third party candidate. A four-way race for the presidency ensues. With Citizens United we will see campaign fundraising rise to astronomically new heights.

 

[Neil Peart]

A four-way presidential race... I have chills.

I would assume, given stratospheric CU funding levels, the public would appreciate Sanders and Trump more than the other two.

 

[Kanzler]

Who knows how that would turn out, right? Especially with the electoral college and all, man, strap in for some really fucked up election results XD

 

[Neil Peart]

Third party candidates usually get about one percent of the popular vote in elections, and they're always seen as spoilers to whichever party loses - especially in close races. Sanders and Trump would stand that on its head.

 

[SingSongBirdy]

As a Canadian all i really hear is "Donald trump is literally Hitler" and "well, time to move to Canada" and i'm like "We are drowning in Syrian refugees how in the HELL are you gonna get anywhere. Does someone mind giving me an unbiased breakdown on the current status of murican' politics?