I mean, I get wanting to hold out for something better, but the election happens whether you're involved or not. A vote of no confidence is a vote to let other people make your choices for you. If you live in a heavily red or blue state it may make no difference to the electoral college, but the race is looking close and the popular vote totals could matter.
Trump or Clinton is going to be president and there are differences in their potential presidencies. Let me put it another way. If you're a fan of Bernie Sanders (don't know if you are, just using this as an example) which potential president do you think is going to be more likely to listen to anything he proposes or will be willing to work with him in any capacity? If Bernie isn't your guy, then just ask that question with a different senator or representative or governor or whoever you want. If you care about a certain issue or set of issues, which candidate do you think will be better for those issues, will work with the people supporting the issues you care about? It may be that you don't think either candidate particularly cares for a certain issue, but think about how they would respond if their party or congress pushed for it. That's another area of potential differences.
There's a lot of things you can consider about the two candidates. I'd suggest that there are many more differences than similarities. If you think that there is no difference at all when it comes to all the things you care about then I suggest you dig more into politics, economics, science, diplomacy, and so on because there is a host of things that are affected by who becomes president.
This was an actual intellectual response, and I appreciate it.
So, to answer, I rethought about the issue. A lot of people say that no vote = a vote for trump/hillary, which never made sense. But you have a point about not voting. However, the reason why I abstain from voting is because I feel the system itself is rotten. View it like a plank of wood, and there is a lot of rot (corruption) in the wood. There is so much so that, while you could sand it this way or that, the wood itself is what's rotten, and you can't really fix that. You'd need new would. That's how I view the two party system, and it's also how I view these candidates. You either have to vote left or right, and there is very little middle ground.
To me, each candidate might have good points and positions and thoughts, but 3 good points out of a few hundred negative ones doesn't sit well with me. Voting for a third party doesn't work, because not enough people will vote. I'm a somewhat private person, and I feel that it's not worth the effort to get registered just to fail. I know, people will say if you never try you won't succeed, but that's how it is.
Unfortunately, there are too many people in the country, and the actual voting process is decided by a few hundred people out of 300+ million. So, it's easy to see why I am taking a stance of no confidence.
If we want to talk about self-interest...
According to the Tax Policy Center and Tax Foundation, a Trump presidency would raise my wages. Although he would significantly increase the national debt. But Ill have to pay off social security and that in the future anyways, so its still in my self-interest to have a Trump presidency.
But I can't even vote, so it doesnt even matter.
That's very interesting. Again, I try to stay out of it, but I could really use high wages. What I have is not enough. But to raise the above point again, he has too many negatives that I can't see putting in the effort to register my information and vore. I'd rather just get a better job.
Well, I asked you to rate the past three elections on a scale of 1-10, not to rate my own scale (how meta), but I won't push it further.
5, 2, 3, 6
Bush, Mccain, Romney, Trump.
What people are saying is that it's obvious that both candidates are not equally bad. It's not an invalid claim to say both are bad, but one is worse than the other, regardless of what someone thinks of Trump and Hillary.
fun facts: Kanzler is Canadian and I'm an American who's voting for Hillary Clinton this Tuesday.
Good point to the first part, but even if one is slightly better, it's still not enough. I personally lean more toward Trump, but I don't think he's fit to run the country. But who knows, maybe he is.
I knew that Kanzler was Canadian. I was going to leave it to USA only, but I remembered NATO, and how a presidency could effect it. I know Ivysaur is from Madrid, so it won't effect him nearly as much as you and me.
As exciting as a Trump presidency would be, I'm very concerned about the economy and if the American economy tanks, I might be out of decent job opportunities because I'd be paid by the government and they need good tax dollars from a robust economy. So sorry Trump, my economic well-being is much more important than the excitement and seismic shift in history that President Trump would represent.
Economy rises and falls. Presidency doesn't have even a 1/10th stake in that.
Though that was part of the reason why I
first thought Trump would be an interesting candidate.
I don't really have much to say to this. EDIT: Yes I did :)
To me, non binary roles, genders, or whatever the hell it is is just made up stuff. Don't get me wrong, traditional roles are made up as well, but they worked and have worked for 5000+ years because they are functional and have a purpose. They have worked, and still work, whereas non binary roles seem to me to be useless. They seem to be almost a cry for help, or a product of a society that has lost any form of identity.
I guess the question that I have is: What function do non binary roles provide? Why do you feel the need to make up your own identity/gender? What makes you take them on?
I would also like to make the point that it is
extremely difficult to near impossible to provide evidence that can be categorized on the human consciousness, so to ask for evidence as to why non binary roles are an issue is simply not possible. I can't quantify it or write a research paper, hence why I asked the above questions.
As for the rest of it, yes, I was passionate about my points. I could be seen as arrogant, but I am tired of the Hillary camp ignoring things like corruption, of which you described not less then three times, because Trump "hurts my feelings". I personally don't care if he is racist or misogynistic. Those are personal beliefs, and you seem to think that 100+ years of equal rights can suddenly be undone.
Again, he is not Hitler, he doesn't have the populace not the power to make a
single law forbidding blacks or women from doing anything. Equal rights has it's leaders, but it's a cultural change, and would need to have a vast majority of the population to reverse, and that is simply not going to happen.
However, corruption on the other hand
can and does sway how people live. Think about GMO labeling laws for a second. A few corrupt companies get a few puppets into office and all of a sudden, they are able to block your knowledge of what you eat. I don't know if a tomato has GMO's or not, because it is not a requirement, and labeling is actually
stopped. That is what Clinton represents, more corruption and behind doors deals, which do have a impact on my life.
That is again, why I lean more toward Trump, because however racist he might be, he is not a corrupt as Hillary.
