4th Gen A G/S Remake?

[Mika555]

Your point 2 makes it null and void. the reason they would make it is for the legendaries. And if they were to do that in the 5th gen it wouldnt be jhoto but sinnoh due to the last gen being sinnoh not jhoto. So? We knew what to do in fr/lg and that didnt stop em. Seriously all your points are stupid and wrong. So what? Just the fact that its a remake doesnt make it the best. Just a widely popular thought. An added feature would be touch screen pokegear and a full sized kanto. Nothing more nothing less.
I think your wrong. If they really wanted to send the people who play to jhoto they might as well have in dppt.

That person who I talked to on serebii would exactly say the samething to you that they had said to me and that you can get those legendaries in Colessum and XD even if you do not have a Gamecube or Wii and do not could not afford them and just bash your opinion as well. Though the Nintendo and Pokemon Company probably could care less if people could afford them or not think that he or she think they are omnisicent.

That user on serebii try to discourage me greatly on the remakes of the video games. I do not understand why people are so discourage remaking a of a video game. If I do not like a video game or think it is unnecessary to be remade, I would be neutral to it and not complain about it being remake or not because I respect that people's feelings. There is no use in discouraging others whether they should remake something that is not real. I know some people give invalid reason on why a game should be remake, but you do not have to talk to them so harshly. They also harshly to people who valid reason of why a game should be remade too. If this disagree on why a video game should be remade they should say it in a polite way.

Also Gamefreak can choose want they want to do. They can either remake the Gold and Silver games to obtain legendaries, or they can make a new game where you can get Johto legendaries. I signed a petition about the remakes the petition may work and may not work. If a GS remake does not happen I will just have to move on. It is okay to hope that something would come, but I would not have too much hope, so I will not be too disappointed if it does not come. I learned that people cannot always get everything they desire. One thing is for sure though I am never going back to those sections on the serebii board about the second generation video games.

 

[bobandbill]

Or through gba link cable and colloseum but who plays those? Seriously although its never good to trust someone over the internet due to later on flaming for being wrong could ther be more signs towards gs remake road?

*glances at fanfic based on Colosseum*
*glances at Colosseum disc on pile of games*
*glances at friends who have also played Colosseum*

WELL... :/

(And quite a number do play that and XD as well, actually - more than you might think. And I should know. -_-)

i think it's pretty useless to make a remake of G/S because:
1) you could catch johto pkmn in D/P including the past games

You can catch SOME. But some are also missing from within D/P/Pt, such as the Johton legendarys. Unlike other generation's legendaries which are not only available through 3rd gen games, but in D/P/Pt, like the Regis and the Kanto birds.

Also, it does appear there is less of a focus on the 'gotta catch them all' part, and it's already a challenge to get near 500 Pokemon.

2) legendary (pure legit... alot nowadays are hacked..) pkmn such as the dogs, lugia and ho-oh, celebi and etc. would be easier to catch... and the effort of those who tried getting legit ones from events will be useless.. and if nintendo on the other hand thought of removing them and only accesible on events, again, it would be rather useless that they made a remake that you could only catch exclusive ubers via- event...therefore, a waste of money...

Who says Celebi would be given in a GS remake? It was event only then, may be still now. This is also discounted in the examples of Lugia and Ho-oh and the dogs (i.e. all of Johto's legendary Pokemon), as they are not event-only Pokemon. Proof? Colosseum - dogs and Ho-oh. XD - Ho-oh (and Kanto birds). FR/LG - another one of the dogs. These are obtainable in actual games.

But this didn't stop the widely searched-for event for Lugia and Ho-oh now, did it?

Plus - money obtained from games being made >>> money made from events. By a long shot. Heck - you could argue by your logic that the Surfing Pikachu in PBR (which has been around since AGES) makes any events involving Pikachu (which still occur) void. But they don't. People still boast about they event Pikachus and what-not. So these things really do not matter.

Plus you've always got your event-only Pokemon to use as well - a handful of them. Although they only make up part of all the events.

3) what makes this game good is the fact that you could go to another regions, so nintendo should just make a 5th gen with features like to those of G/S...

ORRRRRRR they could do both? And make money from both? But this is up to them anyway - no point saying 'well, Nintendo SHOULD make this, and this, and this...' - if a game can sell, Nintendo will consider making it. Same goes for a possible GS remake (otherwise they wouldn't have used the in-game coding, right?).

And the games with only one region, like, say, every other game including D/P/Pt has also sold really well. So there is no need for either a GS remake or a 5th gen with multiple regions - but if GS sold well, and a remake will, then there's every chance it will be made. I.e. it can happen or can not happen - but there is no such thing as 'this SHOULD happen'.

4) the game is soo old that everyone knows anything you must do... and if they change the plot, it wouldn't be a remake anymore

Bad point. Firstly - the people who have arrived on the Pokemon scene AFTER the second gen wouldn't know a thing about GSC. Therefore making a remake new for them. That means millions of players.

Secondly - well, simply, that didn't affect FR/LG, which was made TEN YEARS after RBY. Long time - yet it still sold. Also, many bought it for nostalgia.

And if they change the plot.. well, it is still the same game in terms of setting and features and whatnot - and I actually wouldn't mind a new plot. Although judging by FR/LG, they probably won't... :/

5) unless they put another extremely cool feature, too great that it would be considered the best game, this remake (for me, i dunno bout others,) will only be bought by obssessed collectors and people who don't realize what they're doing...

so for now, i think the best thing for nintendo to do is to make a 5th gen, then add a plot that will enable the player go to a another region(for e.g. johto; a neo johto would be great)... what do you think...?[

...AND bought by the new players who haven't played it before.... and if you look at the amount of those people, and the people who want it (including the people who don't frequent Pokemon forums) - that's a few million sales easily, IMHO.

Seems a bit early for a 5th gen as well to me (I've said why in previous posts here).

So I think - don't be so quick to discount a GS remake for this gen. It can not happen just as easily as happen - there's nothing saying it won't as much as the stuff saying it will (like the actually in-game coding in D/P/Pt - which as I also said a page back that if a GS remake IS made, it seems to point more to a 4th gen release and why is there as well (I'm lazy :P )...), and frankly your reasons were a bit ill-thought out and not enough to discredit it by a long shot.

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That person who I talked to on serebii would exactly say the samething to you that they had said to me and that you can get those legendaries in Colessum and XD even if you do not have a Gamecube or Wii and do not could not afford them and just bash your opinion as well. Though the Nintendon and Pokemon Company probably could care less if people could afford them or not think that he or she think they are omnisicent.

That user on serebii try to discourage me greatly on the remakes of the video games. I do not understand why people are so discourage remaking a of a video game. If I do not like a video game or think it is unnecessary to be remade, I would be neutral to it and not complain about it being remake or not because I respect that people's feelings. There is no use in discouraging others whether they should remake something that is not real. I know some people give invalid reason on why a game should be remake, but you do not have to talk to them so harshly. They also harshly to people who valid reason of why a game should be remade too. If this disagree on why a video game should be remade they should say it in a polite way.

Also Gamefreak can choose want they want to do. They can either remake the Gold and Silver games to obtain legendaries, or they can make a new game where you can get Johto legendaries. I signed a petition about the remakes the petition may work and may not work. If a GS remake does not happen I will just have to move on. It is okay to hope that something would come, but I would not have too much hope, so I will not be too disappointed if it does not come. I learned that people cannot always get everything they desire. One thing is for sure though I am never going back to those sections on the serebii board about the second generation video games.

I might add that everywhere there are people who are annoyed by some people's views on a GS remake everywhere - heck sometimes I too get annoyed by the people for a GS remake. And this problem got pretty bad on serebii - hence the negativity by some. And frankly I can't blame them... the same stuff got repeated TO DEATH. And then some. Plus the terrible reasoning behind some posts...

 

[Mika555]

*glances at fanfic based on Colosseum*
*glances at Colosseum disc on pile of games*
*glances at friends who have also played Colosseum*

WELL... :/

(And quite a number do play that and XD as well, actually - more than you might think. And I should know. -_-)

Comments in bold.


I might add that everywhere there are people who are annoyed by some people's views on a GS remake everywhere - heck sometimes I too get annoyed by the people for a GS remake. And this problem got pretty bad on serebii - hence the negativity by some. And frankly I can't blame them... the same stuff got repeated TO DEATH. And then some. Plus the terrible reasoning behind some posts...

Yes there are so many problems with people wanting a GS remake and think that showing references will grant them a remake. They also say that the Pokemon Company has to make one, which they do not have to do anything about remaking those games and go on and make an entirely new game. There is also those people who spread false news about a GS remake. It is getting out of hand. There was also spam on that petition I linked to and people signed twice or more which is dishonesty. I linked the petition because people on this fourm mention something about signing them. I deleted that link since they cannot be mature about it.

 

[CP3]

i think it's pretty useless to make a remake of G/S because:
1) you could catch johto pkmn in D/P including the past games

Not if you have the DSi.

 

[Squire202]

I'll stay out of teh dabate thing...(for now) But I sure hope they re-make it.

 

[Mika555]

Not if you have the DSi.

I was told that the DSi will not replace the DS Lite I do not know if this is true or not, but even the Dsi might not even guarantee a remake. We will have to wait to see what the Pokemon Company will do and I was also told that Dsi will last until the next handheld game came out which I was also told not very long.

 

[Haza]

With all the talk of Brawl leaks recently, it's kind of easy to forget the other leaks as well.

I recently found out from a noted Japanese leaker (the same one who is saying Falco, Jigglypuff, and Ridley will be playable and who said Kirby Super Star would be released for the DS months before it was announced) that two new Pokemon DS games would be coming out in 2009. The games are titled Pokemon Golden Sun and Pokemon Silver Moon. These would be remakes of the very popular and revolutionary Pokemon Gold and Pokemon Silver which were released in 2000 for the GBA.

I am aware that many fans years ago started thinking of names for the remakes, and many came up with the above titles. Coincidence?

Let's hope this information is true, but let's also think, how could they possibly improve Gold and Silver and/or include something that wasn't in Diamond and Pearl? Hmm...

Just liked reading this. It was supposably an early leak that I found on Nintendohub. There was a link to the original article there too.

 

[The Wave]

With all the talk of Brawl leaks recently, it's kind of easy to forget the other leaks as well.

I recently found out from a noted Japanese leaker (the same one who is saying Falco, Jigglypuff, and Ridley will be playable and who said Kirby Super Star would be released for the DS months before it was announced) that two new Pokemon DS games would be coming out in 2009. The games are titled Pokemon Golden Sun and Pokemon Silver Moon. These would be remakes of the very popular and revolutionary Pokemon Gold and Pokemon Silver which were released in 2000 for the GBA.

I am aware that many fans years ago started thinking of names for the remakes, and many came up with the above titles. Coincidence?

Let's hope this information is true, but let's also think, how could they possibly improve Gold and Silver and/or include something that wasn't in Diamond and Pearl? Hmm...

Just liked reading this. It was supposably an early leak that I found on Nintendohub. There was a link to the original article there too.

I've heard that leak a few months ago, and IIRC, it was confirmed that this is false. this is the same as when duskgold and dawnsilver were copyrighted; everyone thinks that these names are the names of the G/S remake and that a remake will come, but it's not confirmed by any trustable source (like nintendo).

 

[dialga493]

Maybe if they do the games name would be maybe this:

Pokemon ShinyingGold
Pokemon BrightSilver
Pokemon Radiant Crystal

and have all regions kinda like g/s/c

kanto to jouto boat ride to hoean and fly to Sinnoh

how's that sound

 

[Mitchman]

You know what? Im actually going to take haza's words. I mean his post might sound like just another pointless hype up post but hell that guy knows what he is talking about. I mean the guy who has that site. haza you wouldnt have a link? Also golden sun? Nah more like gold sun. Golden sun is a popular (but last gen i dont see any current gen rpg. You guys might consider me and haza crazy but im telling. When that comes out true like the stuff the site said ill be happy. Cause we believed.

 

[Devil's Guitarist]

i have a simple theory...it's too early to make a 5th generation.nintendo wants money and they know where to get it without releasing a new gen.
besides,as everybody knows,nintendo HAVE TO make a new pokemon game for ds.

 

[Haza]

You know what? Im actually going to take haza's words. I mean his post might sound like just another pointless hype up post but hell that guy knows what he is talking about. I mean the guy who has that site. haza you wouldnt have a link? Also golden sun? Nah more like gold sun. Golden sun is a popular (but last gen i dont see any current gen rpg. You guys might consider me and haza crazy but im telling. When that comes out true like the stuff the site said ill be happy. Cause we believed.

Oops. I just read more on that site and he edited that post and said that someone hacked into the guy who was said to have leaked the informations IP address and typed those things. It still sounds like a cover story but thats what it says. I can provide a lik if it is allowed just to read this urself. BTW this is an older "leak".

 

[Mitchman]

Nah ill search it but i believe its a cover story just to cover their butts. I really hope so as i really want the games to be made. And roxas. Your theory is sensible but if the new MD is for ds(which i doubt i mean 2 mds for 1 gen is over kill) then its a small chance. But you never know.

 

[Devil's Guitarist]

yeah,well.but don't forget that the dsi doesn't have a gba slot,so in case that u want YOUR johto pokemon,what are u going to do?u NEED something,u NEED a gsc remake.
in general,i agree with that guy who post about the dsi.

 

[Heart's Soul]

Maybe if they do the games name would be maybe this:

Pokemon ShinyingGold
Pokemon BrightSilver
Pokemon Radiant Crystal

and have all regions kinda like g/s/c

kanto to jouto boat ride to hoean and fly to Sinnoh

how's that sound

Impossible for these reasons:
ShinyingGold is supposed to be ShiningGold, which is a remake name of ShinyGold, which everybody knows, even Nintendo.
They are not making a Crystal remake! Yellow never got one, but Blue was supposed to, but didn't. Yes, Nintendo did confirm that.
You mispelled Johto and Hoenn.
Thgere isn't enough space on a DS cartridge (DSi cartridge is no different, just more compatible with Wii) for all that and neither is RAM space. As this is, by rumour, supposed to be for DSi, there will not be any extra RAM boost for DS games.

 

[Mitchman]

Just wondering but where the hell did you here that its a DSi only game? So what we got a new ds with a camera. Hell thats not stopping us from using our lites. Sure ok big deal its a new fd but surely they wouldnt actually make it DSi only. thats like saying they would make every game from now on DSi only which is retarded and 2 more wii compatible? Uh-huh who ever told you that doesnt know what they are talking about.

 

[Devil's Guitarist]

ok,first of all: I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS ONLY FOR DSI!
second:i mean that if u own a dsi and u want to get the pokes,you couldn't.
geez...

 

[Haza]

First of all a there is not specific DSi games. Its a branch of the original DS and will continue to use those cartridges.

Anywho, I am still searching for any good stories to post here.

 

[bobandbill]

Impossible for these reasons:
ShinyingGold is supposed to be ShiningGold, which is a remake name of ShinyGold, which everybody knows, even Nintendo.
They are not making a Crystal remake! Yellow never got one, but Blue was supposed to, but didn't. Yes, Nintendo did confirm that.
You mispelled Johto and Hoenn.
Thgere isn't enough space on a DS cartridge (DSi cartridge is no different, just more compatible with Wii) for all that and neither is RAM space. As this is, by rumour, supposed to be for DSi, there will not be any extra RAM boost for DS games.

You can add to that, on top of 'why they won't include even more regions in one game', that Nintendo won't do so for marketing reasons. Why sell all of the regions in one game... when they can see multiple games with one region each and get way more $$$? Hence why they haven't had more than one new region in one game so far.

GSC only had Johto and Kanto: revisted. No more than 2 regions, and only one of them new. (And it had evidence of a lack of space - Kanto was noticeably diminished in size as well due to memory issues).

First of all a there is not specific DSi games. Its a branch of the original DS and will continue to use those cartridges.

Anywho, I am still searching for any good stories to post here.

*throws own support that Nintendo wouldn't limit a game to just the DSi as it's the same as the DS lite + bells and whistles, and Nintendo would want to increase the ability of customers to buy a game not limit it anyway*

And by good stories, you mean 'articles on a GS remake'? If so - there are none out there, I can assure you, and the only creditable ones will be ones from Coro Coro, or ones that get mention on serebii.net.

 

[jboy]

No bussiness for DS/DG

A fake!!!

Nintendo wouldn't continue to bet on GBA!!!

I've went through many game faqs websites,but the upcoming game development list for GBA has finished...............

The producer is not from Nintendo and it's a fake game hacked by someone.

You'll never know if there's a bug or glitch.

By the looks of it....... it can be a great game!!
But I would rather download it

NO NEED TO WASTE MONEY!!!Safe it for Other Things!!!