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American women earn less than their male peers.

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/women-in-elite-jobs-face-stubborn-pay-gap-1463502938

    "On average, American women earn less than their male peers. Highly educated women fare worst of all.

    A Wall Street Journal examination of pay in 446 major occupations found that women in many elite jobs earn well below men, with professions such as doctors, compensation managers and personal financial advisers among those showing the widest earnings gaps.

    Male doctors working full time earned about $210,000 annually on average for the five years through 2014, the Journal's analysis of Census Bureau data found. Female physicians made 64% of that, about $135,000 a year. Among personal financial advisers, men took in about $100,000 while women made about $62,000.

    Many white-collar jobs give substantially larger financial rewards to those logging the longest hours and who job-hop often, phenomena that limit white-collar women who pull back for child-rearing. Researchers on the topic say ingrained workplace cultures also impede women's earnings.

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    The gender pay gap has become a big issue in corporate boardrooms, state capitols and the 2016 presidential campaign. Executives and policy makers are weighing ways to bridge it, with ideas such as limiting employers from asking about salary histories and attempting to create "wage transparency" by requiring employers to report salary data.


    The widest gaps in many white-collar professions, however, don't easily lend themselves to legislative remedies. In fact, the Journal's findings belie policy makers' hope that the most-educated women would lead the way in shrinking the gap. Currently, more women than men graduate from college.

    Wage transparency is "just not going to move the needle much," says Claudia Goldin, a Harvard University economics professor and one of the country's foremost scholars on gender and pay. Prof. Goldin found in a 2010 paper that men and women earned almost the same salaries right after receiving University of Chicago M.B.A.s. At least a decade after graduating, the women earned 57% of their male classmates.

    The main factor, she and her co-authors concluded: Women became mothers, interrupted their careers and eschewed lengthy hours that generated higher paychecks. "These particular occupations," Prof. Goldin says, "are not very forgiving of taking time off and having kids."

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    In elite tiers of business, employees aren't seen as interchangeable and therefore earn premiums for working longer hours. "You work more hours, you work crazy hours, and you get not crazy-amount more—you get crazy-amount-squared more," Prof. Goldin said in one lecture on the topic.

    The factors fueling the U.S. gender earnings divide have changed significantly in the past three decades and could continue to make equal pay for women tough to attain. Photo: Adya Beasley/The Wall Street Journal
    Women with bachelor's degrees or higher earned 76% of their male peers in that group in 2014, according to the Labor Department. Women with less than a high-school diploma working full time earned 79% of male peers.

    In some professions, such as pharmacists, Prof. Goldin says, there is greater pay parity because employers more easily substitute one worker for another.

    Less-educated workers are also generally more interchangeable and often have less room to move up the pay scale, economists say, helping explain why those without college degrees have a narrower gender pay gap today.

    ENLARGE
    That is a reversal from a generation ago. In 1980, female college graduates earned 68% of their male peers, while women who hadn't graduated from high school earned 61% of theirs.

    Factors narrowing the gap more quickly between blue-collar men and women haven't all been happy. Much of it comes from the fact that those men lost ground when manufacturing jobs moved overseas and unionized work dried up. Between 1981 and 2011, the percentage of men covered by collective-bargaining agreements was cut in half, while women's coverage fell only slightly, according to Cornell University economics professors Francine Blau and Lawrence Kahn.

    The Journal analyzed Census Bureau earnings data for full-time year-round workers from 2010 through 2014. Across occupations, women made 79% of men on average. A Labor Department measure pegs the rate at 83% for 2014. Both include a slightly younger pool of workers than the education-specific figures.

    Lag in finance
    Of the 10 major occupation groups where women's earnings lagged most, five were in finance.

    Among personal financial advisers, who had the fifth-highest gap of any major profession, men outnumber women more than two to one. That imbalance prompted CFP Board, a national nonprofit group that certifies financial planners, to probe what it dubbed the profession's "feminine famine."

    Its 2014 report found women were more likely to take guaranteed income instead of the greater payouts and risks that came with heavily commission-based jobs or owning their own firms. They had less experience than men in the field and were younger.

    After the research controlled for experience, practice size and practice ownership, the women earned about $32,000 a year less on average, according to the study of more than 500 financial advisers. An advisory panel concluded gender discrimination and bias were among factors dissuading women.

    "A male friend told me I had several strikes against me," Lauren Lindsay, a financial planner at a firm in Covington, La., says she told the report's author, "I was female, Yankee and not a great golfer."

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    Real Time Economics: Have You Been Affected by the Gender Pay Gap? Tell Us Your Experience
    Cornell's Prof. Blau, who began researching gender pay disparities in the 1970s, has analyzed wage data isolating the role of education, experience, occupation concentrations and other variables. She and Prof. Kahn estimate that about half the gap stems from women being more heavily clustered in lower-paying jobs and industries—not that they are paid less for identical work. Around one-sixth comes from men being on the job longer.

    Just over one-third of the gap, she says, is from factors that can't easily be pinned down, including potential discrimination. She says the true impact of discrimination could be lower, because her calculation lumps in other intangible variables, or higher because it doesn't account for how discrimination may keep women from entering lucrative male-dominated fields.

    Among those unmeasurable forces is that women are less likely than men to angle for higher pay, research shows.

    Bettina Deynes, 43, a human-resources vice president in Alexandria, Va., says she didn't negotiate a higher salary for her first five jobs in that industry. "I was always so thrilled to get the jobs that were offered," she says, "that salary was a second thought."

    Before interviewing for her sixth job, as a city human-resources director, she sought negotiating tips and studied municipal-salary levels by digging through public tax filings. The city offered $130,000 a year; she countered with $140,000 and got it.

    Among reporters, correspondents and news analysts nationwide, the Journal's analysis of census data found women were paid 86% of men.

    ENLARGE
    The union that represents Journal reporters and other workers at the paper's publisher, Dow Jones & Co., in March released an analysis that says unionized women at Dow Jones earn about 87% of men. "We believe this is a problem, one that's existed far too long," says Tim Martell, executive director of the union. Dow Jones Chief Executive William Lewis told employees in emails that any pay disparity relating to gender is troubling and said the company has started reviewing compensation programs.

    The doctor gap
    The Journal's analysis found physicians had the 11th-highest gender wage gap of major professions. Researchers say some of that comes from women's greater concentration in lower-paying specialties such as pediatrics, while men are more prevalent in lucrative areas such as orthopedics.

    Anthony LoSasso, a University of Illinois at Chicago health-policy professor, tracked starting salaries of physicians leaving New York state residency programs over a decade. Their choice of specialty, number of hours worked and structure of their employment didn't account for the men's earning $16,819 a year more than the women in 2008.

    Nor did his theory pan out, in later research, that women were trading pay for jobs with more flexibility and fewer nights and weekends. Prof. LoSasso has yet to find a reason for the gap.

    "I continue to be befuddled," he says.

    Family doctor Anne Montgomery saw her pay lag at various points in her career as she made trade-offs for her family. The 55-year-old, who runs a family-medicine residency program in Rancho Mirage, Calif., cut back to 80% of full time early on so she could care for her son.

    "I actually pretty much worked full time my whole career," the M.B.A. holder says. "I only got paid for part time."

    By 2009, she was earning $170,000 a year as a full-time faculty physician in Spokane, Wash. At that job, she was delighted to get an about $30,000 raise but irked it only brought her more in line with a newly hired male colleague who had aggressively negotiated.

    Her husband of 12 years, family physician Glen Stream, had a smoother climb up the income ladder. He negotiated his pay as he ascended to earn a $275,000 base salary as chief medical-information officer of a Spokane multispecialty group. In 2012, his earnings approached $400,000 when he drew $190,000 as the American Academy of Family Physicians's president plus three-fourths of his executive salary.

    Last year, Dr. Montgomery earned $303,000, while Dr. Stream, 59, made $364,000 treating patients in California and running a national health-system improvement project. This year, the couple expects earnings to be about $360,000 each.

    "I made choices that a man wouldn't have been expected to make," Dr. Montgomery says. "To get back up to speed takes a while."

    Wage transparency hasn't closed a particularly wide gap for the very people who set salaries in the workplace. Female compensation and benefits managers earn about $71,000 a year on average, or 68% of men's about $104,000 annual average, despite outnumbering men more than three to one in the field, the Journal's analysis found.

    "We're talking about the subset of the working world that has exponentially more access to salary data," says Kerry Chou, a senior practice leader at WorldatWork, a human-resources association in Scottsdale, Ariz. "And still," he says, "we have this gap."

    The Obama administration says lagging salaries and a dearth of family-friendly policies are exacerbating an outflow of women from the workforce, which is weighing on economic growth. "We're leaving money on the table," says Labor Department Chief Economist Heidi Shierholz, "as a country that could be providing crucial economic activity."

    The White House says large employers next year must provide salary data by race and gender, part of the Democrats' push for wage transparency designed to spotlight unequal pay and spur employers to correct it. About 20 states are weighing equal-pay legislation, including a push to help women avoid being underpaid in new jobs by curbing employers' ability to ask job applicants about their earnings histories.

    Among the 2016 presidential candidates, Democrat Hillary Clinton wants to prohibit employers from retaliating against workers who size up their pay with colleagues, among other things.

    Republican Donald Trump's campaign hasn't addressed the issue formally. Asked if he would support equal pay for women, he said in October in New Hampshire: "You're gonna make the same if you do as good a job."

    Top Republicans have stressed that current law makes it illegal for employers to pay women less for equal work. "Women should receive equal pay for equal work, and while we have made progress, there is more work to do," says Republican National Committee spokeswoman Lindsay Walters.

    Economists and policy makers say a range of changes is needed to lift women's pay across occupations, including expanding paid family leave and creating more affordable child-care options.

    For top-tier workers, flexible schedules and making workers more interchangeable may have the biggest impact, economists say. More men need to take the paid paternity leave that is increasingly being offered by large employers since it helps women stay in the workforce. Research shows that having men shoulder more unpaid housework such as cooking and cleaning could also help unleash women's earning power.

    Novel solutions are playing out locally. In September, Boston began offering free salary-negotiation workshops to every woman in the city, with the goal of training 85,000 women in five years. About 1,000 women have participated."


    I really dislike reading studies like these. Sometimes I feel as if not much is being done to fix these inequalities. It's easy to blame the government, corporations and male dominance or whatever else people come up. We're the future of this nation and ultimately, it is up to us to fix these issues.

    What do you guys think about this article? In your opinion, what exactly separates men and women in the workforce? Why haven't we moved on from "gender inequality?"
     
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    Women make less money than men, but there are several factors such as maternal leave and choosing lesser-paid professions. That is in general, but for these specific elite jobs, I do not know.

    https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/epa.cfm <-- pretty sure its illegal too unless there are some loopholes i am unaware of. (in the US)

    Correct me if I'm wrong haha.
     
    Why the fuck do I have to sign in or subscribe to see the whole thing? Fuck you Wall Street Journal. I want to see the details on their analysis and the data they used and stuff.

    Something to note though is that the gap that this article claims to show is significantly larger than it is normally (usually it's said to be like a 23% difference, here they're saying it's like a 36% difference).
     
    Why the **** do I have to sign in or subscribe to see the whole thing? **** you Wall Street Journal. I want to see the details on their analysis and the data they used and stuff.

    Something to note though is that the gap that this article claims to show is significantly larger than it is normally (usually it's said to be like a 23% difference, here they're saying it's like a 36% difference).

    Lmao, whoops my bad. Let me copy and paste the info.
     
    Old argument from the 1970's. More Womanist bs. Men make more in there jobs because they use that money for there families. So get with the program folks. It is the men that chases after the women or makes the offer to them. It is the guy with the young young girl who is defenseless when she gets pregnant. It is the man providing for both families. Not the women What happens is that women gets money and then they do not use it for what it is meant for. Making children. Money is used for providing mostly and men will most likely make more money afterwards. So this old argument is the reality that men needs money more then women. women shoes are cheaper, there clothen are cheaper. Women also expects a man to provide and give her a nice place. Like building a nest. Think about things from the opposite end of the scale.
     
    Old argument from the 1970's. More Womanist bs. Men make more in there jobs because they use that money for there families. So get with the program folks. It is the men that chases after the women or makes the offer to them. It is the guy with the young young girl who is defenseless when she gets pregnant. It is the man providing for both families. Not the women What happens is that women gets money and then they do not use it for what it is meant for. Making children. Money is used for providing mostly and men will most likely make more money afterwards. So this old argument is the reality that men needs money more then women. women shoes are cheaper, there clothen are cheaper. Women also expects a man to provide and give her a nice place. Like building a nest. Think about things from the opposite end of the scale.

    Could you perhaps try arguing with some actual facts?

    Gender roles like "the man providing for the family whilst the woman goes and buys things" haven't been even remotely relevant for decades and they were never reasonable, fair or an accurate representation of what women wanted for themselves.

    Your argument falls apart in the context of a modern society where single mothers are common and women are actively involved in the workplace. Do you think the women who are more successful than you or I belong at home and not at work? I know of my three bosses, the female two are the better at customer relations and business. I really don't think they belong at the home letting the men make all the business decisions.

    As for your comments about the price of women's shoes, that's just ludicrous. I don't know about you, but I can go to Kmart and buy a $10 pair of shoes, that is extremely cheap. Here's some articles in support of me.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...o-unacceptable-gender-price-gap-a6820816.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/23/being-a-woman-costs-more-than-being-a-man-study.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/dec/14/cheaper-man-or-woman
     
    Could you perhaps try arguing with some actual facts?
    Nobody needs facts for this bs argument. You need to have some experience in life and that is about it. Just go look up youtube ( which is practically the internet ) among the many scribbles and logs on the subject. About more "laggy" talk. Checkout back when people were talking about ( advertising/marketing ) rape. Which just got even more confusing itself. Nowadays ( not kidding you ) we have losers arguing about men spreading there legs, to men attempting to pick up women in stores, to stuff with the law which I am not mentioning, that was practically legal and on television 24/7. The way I see things is that everybody is scared or confused about there place in this world.
    Gender roles like "the man providing for the family whilst the woman goes and buys things" haven't been even remotely relevant for decades and they were never reasonable, fair or an accurate representation of what women wanted for themselves.
    I am sorry your being really really sad. A man can take his fiddle stick or his head of god and impregnate over a million women in probably less then a day ( depends on measurement of time ). The man chases after the fruit ( the woman ) and she is the earth. The man is the one who makes the moves. ALL IF NOT MOST WOMEN WANTS TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF ( ROMANCE ). It is how it is. You can't change that fact. Yes there are families where the roles are reversed. But a man is still a man and a woman is a woman. Women are suppose to be the backbone of the relationship and keep it interesting and alive and keep the home together. They are to promote reproduction, and more importantly a man to be successful. The problem is that this is usually what is called a build-a-man and most women like men want there package right now. They do not want to be the support beam. Yesterdays world two people got together they knew each others role even if they were both mad scientists, or even human shield. Saying that point. Right now we have damaged roles. We have people walking around looking like mad pornstars. We have women who are struggling to make ends meat because there husbands are too cheap. We have people in prison for sitting on there arses. Meanwhile everybody is just jumping from one person to the next for there own personal gain.
    Your argument falls apart in the context of a modern society where single mothers are common and women are actively involved in the workplace. Do you think the women who are more successful than you or I belong at home and not at work? I know of my three bosses, the female two are the better at customer relations and business. I really don't think they belong at the home letting the men make all the business decisions.
    Like I just pointed out a damaged system with damaged people. It is like a person who can not lose weight or get a fit body and does not have a high metabolism. They drill themselves into health problems that otherwise would never have exsisted if they had just attempt to get educated about there health and act. They are suffering. I am sorry to say but for you to mention Kmart shows that your suffering as well. Better take that money and invest in something else.
     
    That's absolutely fucking disgusting, and this is exactly why I hate ""gender"". Man and woman should be paid equal, and it literally shouldn't matter if someone is male or female when working, holy shit.
     
    Nobody needs facts for this bs argument. You need to have some experience in life and that is about it. Just go look up youtube ( which is practically the internet ) among the many scribbles and logs on the subject.

    Well at least now I understand why you have such a distorted perception of the world. If you want to not look ridiculous in a debate/argument, then facts are essential. Without some sort of factual source backing up your point of view you're essentially choosing to ignore the way reality is because you'd rather the world fit your own bizarre point of view.

    As for youtube, random Youtube videos are not a good source either. The vast majority of them are produced by crackpots with no actual background in the topic they are discussing, a flawed scientific method or who have been extremely mislead themselves. Youtube is not "practically the internet" it is a very small part of a resource where you can instead find scholarly articles, reliable news sources and educational websites. Hell, as much as a lot of people have issues with it, wikipedia is a much more reliable source of information than Youtube.

    About more "laggy" talk. Checkout back when people were talking about ( advertising/marketing ) rape. Which just got even more confusing itself. Nowadays ( not kidding you ) we have losers arguing about men spreading there legs, to men attempting to pick up women in stores, to stuff with the law which I am not mentioning, that was practically legal and on television 24/7. The way I see things is that everybody is scared or confused about there place in this world. I am sorry your being really really sad. A man can take his fiddle stick or his head of god and impregnate over a million women in probably less then a day ( depends on measurement of time ). The man chases after the fruit ( the woman ) and she is the earth. The man is the one who makes the moves. ALL IF NOT MOST WOMEN WANTS TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF ( ROMANCE ). It is how it is. You can't change that fact. Yes there are families where the roles are reversed. But a man is still a man and a woman is a woman.

    I'm just going to do a quick checklist here. The bits I reply to are bolded for your convenience.

    1. Not sure what you're talking about. Even less sure that this is relevant to the topic at hand.

    2. I'd rather be sad than a chauvinist with no understanding about how the world works.

    3. Definitely not. I'll hand it to you, you said something so ludicrous that I could find absolutely no research on the topic at all. Math says otherwise though. There are 24 hours in a day. 1440 minutes. Even assuming that the man in question reached an orgasm within two minutes (poor guy, even poorer women) and that somehow every sexual encounter that day resulted in a pregnancy the maximum number of women he could possibly impregnate would be 720. That is assuming an extremely unlikely, fortuitous series of events.

    This still ignoring the fact that your argument had exactly nothing in it that showed me why women should be paid less.

    4. Without a doubt, some women like to have a dominant man. Some men like to have dominant women. Hell, some men like to have dominant men and some women like to have dominant women. To randomly suggest that all women want to be taken advantage of of all things though is ridiculous. I don't know anybody, man or woman, who enjoys being manipulated, taken advantage of or screwed over. Sexually or professionally. Either you're working with an extremely small and extremely specific sample or you're making more baseless generalisations. Why don't we do a little "poll" to test this though.

    I encourage all women who comment in this thread to tell us if they prefer to be taken advantage of or treated fairly and respectfully. I'm pretty sure I know what they'll say.



    Women are suppose to be the backbone of the relationship and keep it interesting and alive and keep the home together. They are to promote reproduction, and more importantly a man to be successful. The problem is that this is usually what is called a build-a-man and most women like men want there package right now. They do not want to be the support beam. Yesterdays world two people got together they knew each others role even if they were both mad scientists, or even human shield. Saying that point. Right now we have damaged roles. We have people walking around looking like mad pornstars. We have women who are struggling to make ends meat because there husbands are too cheap. We have people in prison for sitting on there arses. Meanwhile everybody is just jumping from one person to the next for there own personal gain. Like I just pointed out a damaged system with damaged people. It is like a person who can not lose weight or get a fit body and does not have a high metabolism. They drill themselves into health problems that otherwise would never have exsisted if they had just attempt to get educated about there health and act. They are suffering.

    You my friend, should have been born in the 1920's where you're outdated and misguided perception of the world was still prevalent. Gender roles are not broken, they are all but gone and they should be. We live in an era where we are working towards equality, where your sex does not determine what you can and cannot be or do. This a good thing. A positive thing. How you can possibly see it as otherwise is beyond me.

    As for your comparisons to the way people dress, being overweight and the rest. I honestly don't understand how those analogies demonstrate any point at all here, much less one suggesting it is okay to pay someone more or less for the same work depending on their sex/gender.

    I am sorry to say but for you to mention Kmart shows that your suffering as well. Better take that money and invest in something else.

    I appreciate your concern, but I assure you that after reading your last post I can safely say I'm suffering far less than any women who have had the bad luck of sharing a work or living space with an ideology like yours.
     
    This whole entire topic is controversy. Where in blazes do people get the idea that women are getting paid less. Men need the money because some of these women have the Jezebel mentality ( see the Bible Elijah v. Jezebel the Hoar Queen and her false prophets of Bali ).

    I could provide examples but the reality is this. Most of the stereotypical work you would expect a girl to do will most likely be label as a non-heterosexual areas of study. Almost all of my majors have been sold out to stereotypical daughters of policemen/border patrol and there stereotypical non-heterosexual men who think they are women. Bottom line is that as long as women keeps depending on there magical man, with his magical wallet the problem with continue.
     
    @The Doctor Example Being on 64% of the wage of someone who has the same qualifications and experience is ridiculous how on Earth can an average wage different of $100,000 be fair. Even with maternity leave taken in to account, for those women who took it.

    In this day and age we (most men) assume that the genders are equal. But in almost every instance, whilst improved on the past, men come up top.

    Where in blazes do people get the idea that women are getting paid less.

    Uh, in that article in the first post? -_-
     
    Look uhm so what, this is not a real problem at all. You show me where a public school teacher is getting paid less compared to a man and then we can talk. You show me side by side credentials. Another thing is that you can get a raise ( by asking for one ). Not everybody get the raise at the same time.
     
    I think there are enough statistics in the post supporting a pay gap without me needing to find further :). If I did find more, I have a feeling you'd deny them anyway.
     
    This whole entire topic is controversy. Where in blazes do people get the idea that women are getting paid less. Men need the money because some of these women have the Jezebel mentality ( see the Bible Elijah v. Jezebel the Hoar Queen and her false prophets of Bali ).

    Because the Bible provides empirical observation...you are trying to apply a fictitious anti-woman character to all women? This is perhaps one of the best examples of essentialization I have seen. Congrats!

    I could provide examples but the reality is this.
    You could? Go on...

    Most of the stereotypical work you would expect a girl to do will most likely be label as a non-heterosexual areas of study. Almost all of my majors have been sold out to stereotypical daughters of policemen/border patrol and there stereotypical non-heterosexual men who think they are women. Bottom line is that as long as women keeps depending on there magical man, with his magical wallet the problem with continue.
    Generally, this is incomprehensible. I have no idea what you are are trying to convey.

    Non-heterosexual areas of study? What does that mean? Isn't every field most represented by heterosexual people? With the sole exception of queer studies. So the type of work a girl will do will most likely be in queer studies? Um, no.

    Where are these "sterotypical daughters of policemen"? Are they supposed to be comically "rowdy" and "unladylike"?

    Also, really, non-heterosexual men who think they are women? Do you mean trans women? If you are going to be offensive at least structure your argument in a way that I can actually comprehend your writing next time. Thanks :)

    To your latest post, stop being lazy and research something for yourself rather than placing research burdens on other people especially when you are supporting anti-intellectual claims that reinforce inequalities and harms.

    This demographic data showing gendered pay-gap among teachers is as hard to find as a drink at a bar. You're welcome though.

    [PokeCommunity.com] American women earn less than their male peers.
     
    Get this in your head. Men make the bigger income because men makes the families. It is not the women who is the backbone of the family. While her presence is what is needed for the family to exist it is the men. Take Hillary. Without her father holding a special interest in her mother, she would probably never cease to be. Why? Because her father attempted politics and he pushed the idea on to his kids. What was her mother doing? She was busy with some sewing job.
    ..you are trying to apply a fictitious anti-woman character to all women?
    The reality is that women strip down. People pay them for images, videos, even to be nude, or a entity of sexual desire. These women are normal like any other women they want families but the flat fact remains. It is people ( not just men ) who promote the "Jezebel" ( hoar/woman who exchanges her time for money ) imagery.

    In reality these jump from men to men. Sucking out there wallets just for some bread ( food ). They believe they will marry rich, and realize in the end that men wants to have innocence, the innocence they lost behind the lens. However men will get desperate especially when they covert what they know and such a beast/woman will settle down with a man who admires from up close or afar.

    The feminist is no different. She can only achieve if she is a paracite as with the "Hoar queen" that sits atop the fictional image of capitalism. She is dependent on her spouse, the many men in her life. She is dependent on the flatfact that her abusive father, husband, boyfriend was there to give her an identity, sex, money, shelter. Whichever one comes first. Again dependent and even if she is not a supremacist she acts this intention out without knowing.

    It is like that "top-model" show and this contestant said "ewhhh black" when it came to another models race. These women are racist hoars dependent on there men, and the fruitfulness of there families.

    A very good example is the "Bikini Grandma" who was stopped and picked up by police for being drunk. They attempted to turn into a media craze by even talking to her previous husband. He said "She was too fast for me" and was with her "When he had money". Point being is that Bikini Grandma is still driving around half-naked in Florida.

    .............See what I did there..............this is part of marketing and just by talking about something.

    Point being is that women are dependent, it fuels the economy. The reason they become short sighted is because they find it easier to get free sex, free food, free housing, free transportation just being dependent and sub-servant, even without having children. A conversation with a brother and sister said it best, "Brother why don't you get a really high paying job so I can stay at home" and the brother was like "Why don't you appreciate me enough so I can have the want to get a job.

    In fact it is the human fault of curiosity and what I am going though. AKA "Curiosity killed the cat". These women are curious they have want like any men. They deserve there low pay for all the "fun" they have "inside" there heads.

    No the hoar-queen attitude only exist when all is right. Take any girl who lives inside a suburban paradise. She needs to be in a normal state of mind ( meaning mid-range, middle-class ). Some of these women have this notion installed inside them when they are young.

    The problem is that with women in order for them to grow up normal as with any men. They need to interact with people and feel familiar as with part of a community. So the problem resloves itself. If your a poor woman ( or poor man like me ) it is a good chance that you not following your stereotype or false community driven image that was given to you. You might make good with this world, but the paint of not being a man/woman is far greater then the pain of not following who you are.
     
    I trust the Wall Street Journal as much as I trust my dog to cook my Porter-House steak. This wage gap argument is a tired argument. I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that Asians as a whole make more money on average, creating an even wider gap than the 'gap' between men and women.

    It seems to me that they blanket the entire survey and not delving into actual true percentages.

    The problem is that they say women make less than men in X field. What they don't tell you is that particular field (electricians for example) is mainly made up of men.


    Men plumbers make more on average than female plumbers? You don't say? (Insert Nicholas Cage meme here)

    They basically add up everything everyone makes and weigh it against what everyone makes as a whole. Well, when you don't take into account that you have more people in a certain field your math is obviously going to be off.
     
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