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Bawww...Then why'd you close all the fun threads ;o;
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Best post evar. >D
I'm pretty sure that was Dave that closed most of them. At least, it was with CS TCTI. Oh, well, it was probably only a matter of time before they got closed.
And that is one of the best posts I've ever seen.
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TT: I strongly disagree.
Posts should totally count, they count in the staff area. (It'd be unfair if they disabled post count here and not for all hidden staff forums)
Posts should totally count, they count in the staff area. (It'd be unfair if they disabled post count here and not for all hidden staff forums)
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Me has a feeling, people are going to get a rollocking from the staff!
SPAM! XD
SPAM! XD
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Come on Lightning, at least I will post in them! XD
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Come on guys. Post count isn't everything.
Who cares if posts count in the staff HQ.
It is only a number and doesn't really reflect you in anyway.
Who cares if posts count in the staff HQ.
It is only a number and doesn't really reflect you in anyway.
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Yeah. I personally have no problem leaving postcount on in here and will fight for the right to keep it on, but not with TCTIs and random threads for the sake of being random threads abound. u_u;
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That is fine really. It is just like any board on the forum. As long as it isn't spammed, it is fine. That is my understanding anyway.
I don't think so, but some people were hinting that maybe there isn't a lot of actual staff discussion, but they still get a + in their posts.
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There is a mod lounge which is kind of like this forum (which is why we encourage mods not to post here unless they are also supporters) but it's not ~super spammy omgz~. It's like. A DCC, I think a "share your picture" thread, a contact information thread, a welcome thread, and a get to know each other survey kinda thread. ._.; It's the only forum where anything off-topic and not serious is permitted.
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When I was still a moderator, I gradually felt too put off to actually post in the mod lounge at all, and that was because there was an incredible amount of randomness and silly posts in there that just made me label it a horrid spam-pit, so I couldn't help but feel slightly annoyed at the sight of the locked threads today as an aftertaste. Because a lot of the gobbly guck I saw in the staff lounge over time couldn't honestly compare to these threads and what people were posting. >_>;
I can understand staff members needing to tone things down on all ends, but to be quite honest...I'm not too sure of any alternative that wouldn't lead to the regular decline of activity in this section, not at least without it being somewhat random, things like that just bait replies from people. If regular discussion alone couldn't do that much, then there ought to be a good balance between the two.
My opinion would be to disable post count altogether in this forum. If it is the reason that these threads cannot remain open and to be enjoyed, and should there be no real substitute that can be used to amend that...then it'd be the only sensible solution.
I can understand staff members needing to tone things down on all ends, but to be quite honest...I'm not too sure of any alternative that wouldn't lead to the regular decline of activity in this section, not at least without it being somewhat random, things like that just bait replies from people. If regular discussion alone couldn't do that much, then there ought to be a good balance between the two.
My opinion would be to disable post count altogether in this forum. If it is the reason that these threads cannot remain open and to be enjoyed, and should there be no real substitute that can be used to amend that...then it'd be the only sensible solution.
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My beef with that idea is somewhat simple and probably wrong in some ways but I honestly think that it can't harm anything to leave post count on in here. If the Mod's lounge is as bad as you say it is, then it's quite unfair that their posts count in there when someone as intelligent as you has labeled it a spam pit themselves.
So yeah, my first instinct is to fight the movement to disable post count here until it dies, because I simply hate seeing such double standards being applied when the silliness level we got to resulted in the threads being closed while the silliness in staff areas far exceed that of which we achieved.
I hate seeing unfair things like that, and to be honest, so does Steve...but I think the other staff members are stubbornly refusing to respect how he feels about things, which I find upsetting. Just because he isn't active 24/7 doesn't mean he can't read up on the recent happenings and get an idea of how the forum is running from day to day. >_>
So yeah, my first instinct is to fight the movement to disable post count here until it dies, because I simply hate seeing such double standards being applied when the silliness level we got to resulted in the threads being closed while the silliness in staff areas far exceed that of which we achieved.
I hate seeing unfair things like that, and to be honest, so does Steve...but I think the other staff members are stubbornly refusing to respect how he feels about things, which I find upsetting. Just because he isn't active 24/7 doesn't mean he can't read up on the recent happenings and get an idea of how the forum is running from day to day. >_>
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What I like about Steve is that a lot of the time, he has kept a more innocent outlook on things such as this and earnestly stands in the way as to defend the possible enjoyment members can have, which is them enjoying PC for what it ought to be...a place where they can really get into anything that is there to offer, even the trivial things. I can't say I haven't had my qualms with him in the past, along with other staff members, but I've always admired the way he would put members first in these situations. At times I feel staff members are far too jaded and focused on trying to set up barriers to avoid a possible mess of things, even to a rather exaggerated degree. It took me time to realise that, and I just appreciate what he has to do. I've also realised that there needs to be a good balance of consideration for the members and consideration for moderation. That's why I feel it's better to talk this out...and for staff members not to rule Steve out as him "acting like some kind of biased dictator" because in all honesty, he isn't. While there are ideas that will conflict, the very purpose of everything that is done is to ensure a safe place for members to post, and for them to enjoy every bit of what's there.
And that's why I can never treat post count as though it were some kind of medal deserving of so much attention. If it is the reason preventing people from having their fun, then I say disable it, reopen the threads and watch members post without the fear they're only doing it to bump up their post count, but instead you can watch them have a good time and treat the forum the way it is meant to be treated...as their own comfort zone to chill and relax.
And that's why I can never treat post count as though it were some kind of medal deserving of so much attention. If it is the reason preventing people from having their fun, then I say disable it, reopen the threads and watch members post without the fear they're only doing it to bump up their post count, but instead you can watch them have a good time and treat the forum the way it is meant to be treated...as their own comfort zone to chill and relax.
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Uhhhhhhhhhh. Come on guys!
The whole staff aren't like that, only a small handful.
The whole staff aren't like that, only a small handful.
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Omg this thread. *sigh*
I'll go ahead and admit that one staff forum (the Hangout, not really used for staff-issues) used to be pretty bad--I'm not gonna deny that. I definitely remember taking a look at it one day and being disgusted with the number of pointless threads but you know what? It was dealt with. The higher staff did exactly what we did in the VIP forum today--dealt with it by simply closing and giving the verbal equivalent of a slap on the wrist to let everyone know that was unacceptable. And it's better now because we don't turn a blind eye or let it get too out of hand like the VIP forum was getting today. That said, just because the lounge was rather spammy a while ago like Siggy said doesn't mean it's okay for the VIP forum to be the same way. Especially since we learnt from our mistake--that is, not putting a stop to it as it started--and don't want a repeat now. (I don't see how that's unfair, it's just... logic?)
Yeah, things get a bit chaotic and sometimes posts go by in the staff forums that are not exactly the greatest in content but you know what? That happens in a lot of threads, both in and out of post-counting forums. The wandering thread? It can get pretty crazy at times. The main DCC? Same thing. Even the supporter DCC, has some pointless posts in it at times. And that's okay once in a while! We can't be uptight and super srs all the time because that would be so boring I could cry. But it's okay for a few pages of a thread and after that, it's inappropriate no matter who it is and no matter where it is. If you think we let mods get away with spamming all over the place in the Mod Hangout, please, stop thinking that way. Because we don't.
The only issue I ever have with Steve is he gets a PM from someone and takes a very quick glance around to see what the surrounding issues are and then reverses whatever action was mentioned--without first talking to the staff member that did it. :( It's a little unsettling to have someone go behind your back without at least asking you about it since it makes all the difference. But that's really the only issue I've ever had with him. idk why people make it out like everyone on the staff shuns Steve like he knows nothing about the forum.
Fiiinally (mostly in reply to Siggy here), even removing postcount would make me feel unsure about the kinds of threads that were in here today. :/ The one today was... ridiculously pointless in the first page and from then on, felt more like a DCC to me (though others might disagree and say it was spam all the way through). Anything like that first page? No real discussion can come from that, seriously. Whether postcount was on or off, it'd just be a pointless thread. If people are going to effectively donate in order to gain access to a pointless spam pit, I'm not really on board with that. I'd rather open a total spam hole to all the members because spamming isn't special nor should it be treated as a perk for those who donate their time/money to PC. That's not fair. And if that's more about the TCTI... I don't see why this forum needs its own? I consider TCTI to be like the DCC of Other Trivia. (Or one of them, since DLTMS is kind of another one.) This forum... already has a DCC. :s Two is kind of overkill, especially when it doesn't get much activity to begin with.
/wanders off to play final fantasy xiii
Pachy, please don't talk about the staff forums like you know what goes on in it compared to this forum. You don't.
I'll go ahead and admit that one staff forum (the Hangout, not really used for staff-issues) used to be pretty bad--I'm not gonna deny that. I definitely remember taking a look at it one day and being disgusted with the number of pointless threads but you know what? It was dealt with. The higher staff did exactly what we did in the VIP forum today--dealt with it by simply closing and giving the verbal equivalent of a slap on the wrist to let everyone know that was unacceptable. And it's better now because we don't turn a blind eye or let it get too out of hand like the VIP forum was getting today. That said, just because the lounge was rather spammy a while ago like Siggy said doesn't mean it's okay for the VIP forum to be the same way. Especially since we learnt from our mistake--that is, not putting a stop to it as it started--and don't want a repeat now. (I don't see how that's unfair, it's just... logic?)
Yeah, things get a bit chaotic and sometimes posts go by in the staff forums that are not exactly the greatest in content but you know what? That happens in a lot of threads, both in and out of post-counting forums. The wandering thread? It can get pretty crazy at times. The main DCC? Same thing. Even the supporter DCC, has some pointless posts in it at times. And that's okay once in a while! We can't be uptight and super srs all the time because that would be so boring I could cry. But it's okay for a few pages of a thread and after that, it's inappropriate no matter who it is and no matter where it is. If you think we let mods get away with spamming all over the place in the Mod Hangout, please, stop thinking that way. Because we don't.
The only issue I ever have with Steve is he gets a PM from someone and takes a very quick glance around to see what the surrounding issues are and then reverses whatever action was mentioned--without first talking to the staff member that did it. :( It's a little unsettling to have someone go behind your back without at least asking you about it since it makes all the difference. But that's really the only issue I've ever had with him. idk why people make it out like everyone on the staff shuns Steve like he knows nothing about the forum.
Fiiinally (mostly in reply to Siggy here), even removing postcount would make me feel unsure about the kinds of threads that were in here today. :/ The one today was... ridiculously pointless in the first page and from then on, felt more like a DCC to me (though others might disagree and say it was spam all the way through). Anything like that first page? No real discussion can come from that, seriously. Whether postcount was on or off, it'd just be a pointless thread. If people are going to effectively donate in order to gain access to a pointless spam pit, I'm not really on board with that. I'd rather open a total spam hole to all the members because spamming isn't special nor should it be treated as a perk for those who donate their time/money to PC. That's not fair. And if that's more about the TCTI... I don't see why this forum needs its own? I consider TCTI to be like the DCC of Other Trivia. (Or one of them, since DLTMS is kind of another one.) This forum... already has a DCC. :s Two is kind of overkill, especially when it doesn't get much activity to begin with.
/wanders off to play final fantasy xiii
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