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Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

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    Tyranitar @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Nature: Jolly
    - Pursuit
    - Crunch
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge

    252 Atk Tyranitar Crunch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 294-348 (112.2 - 132.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Energy Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 234-276 (68.6 - 80.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
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    Swampert @ Swampertite
    Ability: Damp
    EVs: 104 HP / 252 Atk / 152 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquake
    -Ice Punch
    -Rain Dance

    crunch and eq are 3hkos while m-pert is always guaranteed to set up rain dance and proceed to ohko tyranitar with waterfall or immediate eq 2hko.
     
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    Mega Abomasnow @ Abomasite
    Ability: Snow Warning
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Sp. Atk / 4 Spd
    Relaxed Nature
    - Blizzard
    - Giga Drain
    - Focus Blast
    - Earthquake

    The best I can do:

    252 SpA Mega Abomasnow Giga Drain vs. 104 HP / 0 SpD Swampert: 540-640 (147.1 - 174.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    I have no clue how to do make swampert mega but I doubt it could hold itself through a giga drain. Do we have the stats of mega swampert or something?
     

    Nah

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    -Pangoro w/Choice Band
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Iron Fist
    EVs: 180 HP, 252 Attack, 76 Speed
    Moves: Hammer Arm, Crunch, Poison Jab, Parting Shot

    It's actually able to live a Focus Blast:

    252 SpA Abomasnow Focus Blast vs. 180 HP / 0 SpD Pangoro: 274-324 (72.8 - 86.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after hail damage

    And then smashes Mega Abomasnow flat with Hammer Arm.
     

    faf

    Queen of Dragons
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    Talonflame @ Leftovers
    Trait: Gale Wings
    EVs: 120hp/252atk/136spe
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
    -Swords Dance
    -Brave Bird
    -Flare Blitz
    -Roost

    Talonflame is able to live a Choice Banded Crunch via switching in (barring a crit) and thanks to its natural speed + Gale Wings, it is able to OHKO Pangoro via Brave Bird (and end up killing itself if the max damage takes place). Calcs:

    252+ Atk Choice Band Pangoro Crunch vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 276-325 (84.4 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    252+ Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 180 HP / 0 Def Pangoro: 386-456 (102.6 - 121.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Okay, looking at the OP, it's one on one. Talonflame can still outspeed and OHKO Pangoro though.
     
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    Quagsire @ Leftovers
    Ability: Unaware
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk
    Relaxed nature
    - Waterfall
    - Earthquake
    - Yawn
    - Giga Impact

    Unaware stops Swords Dance and Quagsire can take a few Brave Birds before fainting.

    4 Atk Quagsire Waterfall vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 204-240 (62.3 - 73.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    It doesn't learn any physical Ice type moves so Grass is going to destroy it.
     

    Dark Azelf

    ☽𖤐☾𓃶𐕣
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    Giga Impact and no Recover. -.- It gets Ice Punch btw also.


    Anyway....

    Sceptile@Sceptilite
    Naive Nature
    252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 S.Atk
    Trait: Overgrow--->Lightningrod
    - Leaf Blade
    - Earthquake
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Dragon Claw
     

    PlatinumDude

    Nyeh?
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    Giga Impact and no Recover. -.- It gets Ice Punch btw also.


    Anyway....

    Sceptile@Sceptilite
    Naive Nature
    252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 S.Atk
    Trait: Overgrow--->Lightningrod
    - Leaf Blade
    - Earthquake
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Dragon Claw
    Mega Altaria:
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    -Dragon Dance
    -Return
    -Earthquake
    -Roost
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/136 Def/120 Spe
    Item: Altarianite
    Ability: Natural Cure

    252 Atk Sceptile Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Altaria: 73-86 (20.6 - 24.2%) -- guaranteed 5HKO

    Earthquake is the best Mega Sceptile can do against this Mega Altaria, who can freely set up multiple Dragon Dances and proceed to wreck with Pixilated Returns.
     
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    Giga Impact and no Recover. -.- It gets Ice Punch btw also.

    I didn't know it got Ice Punch from Move Tutor :\

    Anyway:

    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

    Moltres @ Life Orb
    Pressure
    128 HP / 252 Sp. Atk / 128 Spd
    Modest
    - Fire Blast
    - Hurricane
    - Hidden Power Grass
    - Roost

    252+ SpA Life Orb Moltres Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Altaria: 239-282 (67.5 - 79.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    0 Atk Pixilate Altaria Return vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Moltres: 84-100 (23.7 - 28.3%) -- 95.8% chance to 4HKO

    Moltres can easily take a Return hit from Mega Altaria and can get around that Defense boost to beat Altaria down with Hurricane.
     
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    faf

    Queen of Dragons
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    Tyranitar @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 248hp/252def/8spd
    Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spe)
    -Stealth Rock
    -Crunch
    -Ice Beam
    -Stone Edge

    The best Moltres can do is 4HKO Tyranitar with HP Grass (thanks to Sandstorm, its Sp. Def increases) and a Stone Edge is an OHKO.

    252+ SpA Life Orb Moltres Hidden Power Grass vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 122-146 (30.2 - 36.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

    0 Atk Tyranitar Stone Edge vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Moltres: 612-720 (173.3 - 203.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

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    Oliver Queen
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    Machamp @ Assault Vest
    Ability: No Guard
    EVs: 252HP / 252 Atk / 4 sp.def
    Nature: Adamant
    - Dynamic Punch
    - Knock Off
    - Stone Edge
    - Bullet Punch

    252+ Atk Machamp Dynamic Punch vs. 248 HP / 252 Def Tyranitar: 532-628 (132 - 155.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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    Gligar @ Eviolite
    Ability: Hyper Cutter
    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk
    Nature: Impish
    - Aerial Ace
    - Roost
    - Earthquake
    - Toxic

    8 Atk Gligar Aerial Ace vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Machamp: 126-150 (32.8 - 39%) -- 99.5% chance to 3HKO

    8 Atk Gligar Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Machamp: 103-123 (26.8 - 32%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

    The best Machamp could do against Gligar:

    252+ Atk Machamp Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Gligar: 56-67 (16.7 - 20%) -- possible 5HKO
     

    Nah

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    -Mamoswine w/Life Orb
    Nature: Naive
    Ability: Thick Fat
    EVs: 244 Attack, 12 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed
    Moves: Earthquake, Icicle Crash, Ice Shard, Freeze Dry
     

    faf

    Queen of Dragons
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    Scrafty @ Assault Vest
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 252hp/252atk/4def
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
    -High Jump Kick
    -Knock Off
    -Ice Punch
    -Zen Headbutt

    Scrafty needs Intimidate in order to safely switch into Mamoswine otherwise it will take more than half and Mamo can outspeed to OHKO Scrafty. Since Intimidate reduces Earthquake from a 2HKO to a 3HKO, Scrafty can take two Earthquakes and OHKO with a High Jump Kick.

    -1 244 Atk Life Orb Mamoswine Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Scrafty: 125-148 (37.4 - 44.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    252+ Atk Scrafty High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mamoswine: 438-516 (121.3 - 142.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Without Intimidate (for those curious):
    244 Atk Life Orb Mamoswine Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Scrafty: 187-222 (55.9 - 66.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    i totally did not use scrafty as a counter because it's my favourite pokemon.
     

    Professor_Jared

    Mr. Fish trainer
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    Sableye@Leftovers
    Impish Nature
    Trait: Prankster
    252 HP/252 Def/6 SpDef

    Will-O-Wisp
    Foul Play
    Taunt
    Recover

    252+ Atk Scrafty Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 118-139 (38.8 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

    252+ Atk burned Scrafty Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 59-69 (19.4 - 22.6%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Resists most of Scrafty's moves, can switch into a Knock Off on the first turn, Will-O-Wisps Scrafty on the next turn, and recovers any damage that Scrafty dealt to it on the third turn, and prepares to stall and troll Scrafty until it faints.

    Oh and did I mention this prankster has become one of my favorite pokemon recently?
     

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    Oliver Queen
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    Mr. Mime @ Leftovers
    Ability: Filter
    EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Nature: Timid
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Dazzling Gleam
    - Shadow Ball
     

    Zeffy

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    Clefable @ Leftovers
    Ability: Unaware
    EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SpD
    Calm Nature
    - Calm Mind
    - Moonblast
    - Soft-Boiled
    - Flamethrower

    sometimes you just need to be unaware of your surroundings to win
     

    Nah

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    sometimes you just need to be unaware of your surroundings to win
    ba-dum-tssh


    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

    -Aggron w/Air Balloon
    Nature: Relaxed
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP, 16 Defense, 240 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Iron Head, Earthquake, Ice Punch, Thunder Wave

    0 SpA Clefable Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 240 SpD Aggron: 68-81 (19.7 - 23.5%) -- possible 5HKO

    0 Atk Aggron Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Clefable: 200-236 (50.7 - 59.8%) -- 84.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
     
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    Gastrodon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Storm Drain
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold Nature
    - Earth Power
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover
     

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    -Mega Aerodactyl w/Aerodactylite
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Tough Claws
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
    Moves: Stone Edge, Fire Fang, Aqua Tail, Aerial Ace

    Kinda overkill, but Mega Aero avoids an OHKO from all of Roserade's moves, then shreds it with it's choice of Stone Edge, Fire Fang, or Aerial Ace, all of which OHKO.
     
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