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Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

Nah

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    Sharpedo@ sharpedo nite
    Nature bold
    Ability speed boost
    Aqua jet
    Aqua ring
    Taunt
    Dark pulse
    Ev
    Sp 252
    Atk 252
    Sp def 4

    Sharpedo is really fast with that speed boost and with the megastone
    That doesn't counter since Aqua Jet doesn't hit hard enough (especially cuz -Attack nature) and even defensive Krookodile's Earthquake 2HKOs Mega Sharpedo:

    252- Atk Mega Sharpedo Aqua Jet vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Krookodile: 104-126 (26.4 - 32%) -- 30.3% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

    8 Atk Krookodile Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0+ Def Sharpedo: 153-180 (54.4 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    And for the Mega Sharpedo counter:

    -Sceptile w/Life Orb
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Overgrow
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Giga Drain, Focus Blast, Hidden Power Ice, Leaf Storm

    Can take a couple of hits from Aqua Jet or Dark Pulse, then destroys with Giga Drain/Leaf Storm
     

    faf

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    The war on starters!
    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

    Delphox @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Blaze
    Evs: 4def/252spa/252spe
    Modest nature (+Sp. Atk, -Atk)
    -Fire Blast
    -Psychic
    -Grass Knot
    -Switcheroo

    252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Delphox: 118-140 (40.5 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
    To avoid the drop from Leaf Storm:
    252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Delphox: 73-86 (25 - 29.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

    If Scept does go for Leaf Storm:
    -2 252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Delphox: 60-70 (20.6 - 24%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
    All moves are weaker.

    And then:
    252+ SpA Choice Specs Delphox Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Sceptile: 614-726 (218.5 - 258.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    For funsies:
    252+ SpA Choice Specs Delphox Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Sceptile: 252-297 (89.6 - 105.6%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

    Roasted~
     

    Professor_Jared

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    Dragonite@Lum Berry
    EVs: 252 Attack/252 Speed/6 Defense
    Trait: Multiscale
    Jolly Nature

    Dragon Dance
    Outrage
    Extreme Speed
    Earthquake

    252 SpA Choice Specs Delphox Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 100-118 (30.9 - 36.5%) -- 65.9% chance to 3HKO

    252 Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Delphox: 292-344 (100.3 - 118.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Aww...you used Psychic on a Pokemon that can shrug it off and Earthquake you to death in one turn or use you as set up bait, that's cute.
     

    Kameken

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    Togekiss
    252 HP/252 Sp Atk/4 Sp Def
    Bold
    Leftovers

    Air Slash
    Roost
    Dazzling Gleam
    Nasty Plot

    252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Togekiss: 94-111 (25.2 - 29.7%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

    And you thought the psychic was bad

    252 SpA Togekiss Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 124-147 (38.3 - 45.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    It won't be beautiful, but it'll get the job done.
     

    Polar Spectrum

    I'm still here; watching. Waiting.
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    Togekiss,

    Bold, with Serene Grace, holding Rocky Helmet
    252 Def EV's, 252 Sp Atk EV's.

    Dazzling Gleam, Roost, Air Slash, Aura Sphere

    It's immune to Outrage and Earthquake - and extremespeed won't bother it as much as it will dragonite. Since the only attack it can use on Togekiss is priority, its multiscale will be broken when dazzling gleam hits - and even if it dances it up, it can't withstand repeated dazzling gleams while building enough attack for extremespeed to actually overcome roost - which it could spam to rack up rocky helmet damage.


    Dammit ninja'd.

    to counter magnazone; erm... well I don't have moves or EV's and stuff :I
     

    Kameken

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    Vibrava @ Eviolite
    Adamant
    Levitate

    156 HP / 92 Att / 252 Sp Def / 8 Spe
    Earthquake
    Crunch
    Bulldoze
    Outrage

    92+ Atk Vibrava Bulldoze vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 216-256 (66.6 - 79%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    92+ Atk Vibrava Earthquake vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 352-420 (108.6 - 129.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 156 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Vibrava: 42-50 (15 - 17.8%) -- possible 6HKO

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 156 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Vibrava: 171-202 (61 - 72.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
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    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

    Heatran @ Air Balloon
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 248 HP / 220 SpD / 40 Spe
    Calm Nature
    - Lava Plume
    - Earth Power
    - Toxic
    - Taunt

    Wall'd
     

    LightBlast

    I am fire. I am... death!
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    Conkeldurr @Assault Vest
    Ability : Guts
    EVs: 116 HP/252Atk/4Def/136SpDef
    Adamant

    Drain Punch/ Knock Off/Ice Punch/ Mach Punch

    0 SpA Heatran Lava Plume vs. 216 HP / 136 SpD Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 85-102 (20.9 - 25.1%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO

    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 270-320 (70.1 - 83.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Did you just status me? Thank you for making me stronger.
     
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    LightBlast

    I am fire. I am... death!
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    Sorry, I actually meant 116 HP.

    Mega Charizard Y
    Drought
    EVs: 252 SPAtk/252 Speed/4Atk
    Mild Nature

    Fire Blast
    Solar Beam
    Focus Punch
    Substitute

    0 Atk Mawile Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Mega Charizard Y: 96-114 (32.3 - 38.3%) -- 98.1% chance to 3HKO

    No need for explanation.
     
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    Sorry, I actually meant 116 HP.

    Mega Charizard Y
    Drought
    EVs: 252 SPAtk/252 Speed/4Atk
    Mild Nature

    Fire Blast
    Solar Beam
    Focus Punch
    Substitute

    0 Atk Mawile Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4- Def Mega Charizard Y: 96-114 (32.3 - 38.3%) -- 98.1% chance to 3HKO

    No need for explanation.

    Aggron @ Shell Bell
    Ability: Sturdy
    Nature: Brave
    EV: 100 Attack, 152 Defense, 252 Sp. Defense, 4 Speed
    Moves: Stone Edge, Rock Tomb, Smack Down, Iron Defense

    Rock Tomb to lower speed. Shell Bell to heal. Smack Down to destroy Substitute and possibly finish off. Stone Edge for quad damage.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Latios@Clown Stone
    Timid Nature
    252 SAtk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
    Trait: Levitate
    - Calm Mind
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Psyshock
    - Recover

    EDIT: Beaten

    And above doesnt beat zard wtf son rofl.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)


    Weaville @ Life Orb
    Ability: Pressure

    EV's: 252 Atk / 232 Spe / 24 Def
    Nature: Jolly

    - Ice Punch
    - Ice Shard
    - Knock Off
    - Low Kick

    R.I.P Latios. Ice Punch and Knock Off are OHKO, Ice Shard is a 2HKO, And Low Kick is a 5HKO. Latios makes 2HKO With Dragon Pulse, But Weavile is faster so it can resist one attack and kill it

    252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Knock Off vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Latios: 315-374 (104.3 - 123.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Latios: 361-429 (119.5 - 142%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252 SpA Latios Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Weavile: 160-189 (56.9 - 67.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    You calced wrong

    Mega stones cant be knocked off so

    252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Latias: 226-268 (75 - 89%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Latias: 260-307 (86.3 - 101.9%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

    Aka weavile doesnt mega Latias

    Anyway,

    Alomomola@Rocky Helmet
    252 Def / 252 Sp.Def / 6 HP
    Bold Nature
    Trait: Regenerator
    - Mirror Coat
    - Soak
    - Toxic
    - Wish


    G______________________g
     

    Nah

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    Charizard gets Focus Punch?

    But as for Alomomola:

    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

    -Black Kyurem w/Choice Band
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Teravolt
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Outrage, Fusion Bolt, Iron Head, Ice Beam

    252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 364-430 (77.1 - 91.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Alomomola can't heal itself fast enough, especially since it lacks Protect and lefties, and Kyu doesn't care about Rocky Helmet since Fusion Bolt isn't a contact move for some reason.

    I also don't understand why (Black) Kyurem doesn't get Ice Punch but Wooper does.....
     

    faf

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    I was going to use Ferro again but it gets KO'd before it gets to finish it off. Finding counters were difficult but luckily, I've found a match! So now, first time I'm using a mega in this thread:
    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

    Aggron-M @ Aggronite
    Trait: Sturdy---> Filter
    EVs: 252hp/136def/120spd
    Impish nature (+Def, -Sp. Atk)
    -Iron Head
    -Earthquake
    -Stealth Rock
    -Toxic

    If we are applying that Mega Aggron has already Mega Evolved then Kyurem's best option is a 4HKO:
    252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Mega Aggron: 90-106 (26.1 - 30.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

    If Aggron switches into a Fusion Bolt as its normal form in order to mega:
    252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Aggron: 110-130 (31.9 - 37.7%) -- 93.3% chance to 3HKO

    And then, it will 2HKO with Iron Head (standard runs Heavy Slam but it does worse damage in that case):
    0 Atk Mega Aggron Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem-B: 230-272 (58.8 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Now, I believe Megas get their M. stats when they mega evolve (barring Speed); if that's the case then Aggron will be at a slither of health left (assuming max damage for all Fusion Bolts).

    Icicle Crash would be more rad for Kyurem, just saying. :P
     

    Kameken

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    Mega Medicham @ Medichamite
    Adamant
    Pure Power

    4 HP/ 252 Att/ 252 Def
    High Jump Kick
    Fire Punch
    Drain Punch
    Bulk Up

    252+ Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 235-279 (68.3 - 81.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252+ Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 136-162 (39.5 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    0 Atk Mega Aggron Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Mega Medicham: 102-120 (38.9 - 45.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

    0 Atk Mega Aggron Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Mega Medicham: 85-100 (32.4 - 38.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
     
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    no offense (okay maybe...) but the posts here are getting stupider and stupider =-= apart from elf's (and other well thought posts) which are actually counters and amusing. like srsly u gonna wall zard-y with aggron, krookodile with random garbage sharpedo? cool beans bruh...

    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

    Sableye @ Sablenite
    Ability: Prankster -> Magic Bounce
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold Nature
    - Calm Mind
    - Dark Pulse
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Recover
     
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    Clefable @ Leftovers
    Ability: Unaware
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
    Bold Nature
    - Calm Mind
    - Soft-Boiled
    - Moon Blast
    - Flamethrower

    Can set up a couple of Calm Minds, while ignoring all opposing setups, resists Dark Pulse and doesn't care for burn.
     

    Nah

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    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

    -Seismitoad w/Life Orb
    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 80 HP, 252 Sp.Attack, 192 Speed, 4 Defense
    Moves: Hydro Pump, Earth Power, Focus Blast, Sludge Wave

    Heatran's Earth Power is its best bet, but is only a 3HKO:
    252+ SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 80 HP / 0 SpD Seismitoad: 137-162 (36.9 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    And then Seismitoad can OHKO with Hydro Pump:
    252+ SpA Life Orb Seismitoad Hydro Pump vs. 12 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 367-432 (112.5 - 132.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

    Kameken

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    Noivern @ Life Orb
    Infiltrator
    Modest

    252 Sp Atk/ 156 Sp Def/ 100 Spe

    Draco Meteor
    Flamethrower
    Hurricane
    Air Slash

    252+ SpA Life Orb Noivern Hurricane vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Roserade: 400-476 (153.8 - 183%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252+ SpA Life Orb Noivern Air Slash vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Roserade: 276-328 (106.1 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252+ SpA Life Orb Noivern Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Roserade: 238-281 (91.5 - 108%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

    252+ SpA Life Orb Noivern Flamethrower vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Roserade: 221-260 (85 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

    252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 156 SpD Noivern: 187-222 (60.1 - 71.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252 SpA Life Orb Technician Roserade Hidden Power Fire vs. 0 HP / 156 SpD Noivern: 62-74 (19.9 - 23.7%) -- possible 5HKO

    252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 156 SpD Noivern: 39-45 (12.5 - 14.4%) -- possible 7HKO

    Every one of noivern's moves has the potential to OHKO, but its best best is to use air slash as soon as it switched in, to avoid being hit by the second sludge bomb from roserade.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    People need to account for burns when posting counters, there is a reason Scald and Wisp is on sets. Just something ive noticed.


    Anyway.

    Venusaur@Venusaur Clown Stone
    Rash Nature
    160 HP / 252 S.Atk / 96 Speed
    Chlorophyll --->Thick Fat (ask your mom)
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Giga Drain
    - Earthquake

    offensive saurrr
     
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