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thebest said:
Sharpedo@ sharpedo nite
Nature bold
Ability speed boost
Aqua jet
Aqua ring
Taunt
Dark pulse
Ev
Sp 252
Atk 252
Sp def 4

Sharpedo is really fast with that speed boost and with the megastone
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That doesn't counter since Aqua Jet doesn't hit hard enough (especially cuz -Attack nature) and even defensive Krookodile's Earthquake 2HKOs Mega Sharpedo:

252- Atk Mega Sharpedo Aqua Jet vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Krookodile: 104-126 (26.4 - 32%) -- 30.3% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

8 Atk Krookodile Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0+ Def Sharpedo: 153-180 (54.4 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

And for the Mega Sharpedo counter:

-Sceptile w/Life Orb
Nature: Timid
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Giga Drain, Focus Blast, Hidden Power Ice, Leaf Storm

Can take a couple of hits from Aqua Jet or Dark Pulse, then destroys with Giga Drain/Leaf Storm
 
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Delphox @ Choice Specs
Trait: Blaze
Evs: 4def/252spa/252spe
Modest nature (+Sp. Atk, -Atk)
-Fire Blast
-Psychic
-Grass Knot
-Switcheroo

252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Delphox: 118-140 (40.5 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
To avoid the drop from Leaf Storm:
252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Delphox: 73-86 (25 - 29.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

If Scept does go for Leaf Storm:
-2 252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Delphox: 60-70 (20.6 - 24%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
All moves are weaker.

And then:
252+ SpA Choice Specs Delphox Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Sceptile: 614-726 (218.5 - 258.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

For funsies:
252+ SpA Choice Specs Delphox Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Sceptile: 252-297 (89.6 - 105.6%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

Roasted~
 
Dragonite@Lum Berry
EVs: 252 Attack/252 Speed/6 Defense
Trait: Multiscale
Jolly Nature

Dragon Dance
Outrage
Extreme Speed
Earthquake

252 SpA Choice Specs Delphox Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 100-118 (30.9 - 36.5%) -- 65.9% chance to 3HKO

252 Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Delphox: 292-344 (100.3 - 118.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Aww...you used Psychic on a Pokemon that can shrug it off and Earthquake you to death in one turn or use you as set up bait, that's cute.
 
Togekiss
252 HP/252 Sp Atk/4 Sp Def
Bold
Leftovers

Air Slash
Roost
Dazzling Gleam
Nasty Plot

252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Togekiss: 94-111 (25.2 - 29.7%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

And you thought the psychic was bad

252 SpA Togekiss Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 124-147 (38.3 - 45.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

It won't be beautiful, but it'll get the job done.
 
Togekiss,

Bold, with Serene Grace, holding Rocky Helmet
252 Def EV's, 252 Sp Atk EV's.

Dazzling Gleam, Roost, Air Slash, Aura Sphere

It's immune to Outrage and Earthquake - and extremespeed won't bother it as much as it will dragonite. Since the only attack it can use on Togekiss is priority, its multiscale will be broken when dazzling gleam hits - and even if it dances it up, it can't withstand repeated dazzling gleams while building enough attack for extremespeed to actually overcome roost - which it could spam to rack up rocky helmet damage.

Dammit ninja'd.

to counter magnazone; erm... well I don't have moves or EV's and stuff :I
 
Vibrava @ Eviolite
Adamant
Levitate

156 HP / 92 Att / 252 Sp Def / 8 Spe
Earthquake
Crunch
Bulldoze
Outrage

92+ Atk Vibrava Bulldoze vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 216-256 (66.6 - 79%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

92+ Atk Vibrava Earthquake vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 352-420 (108.6 - 129.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 156 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Vibrava: 42-50 (15 - 17.8%) -- possible 6HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 156 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Vibrava: 171-202 (61 - 72.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
Conkeldurr @Assault Vest
Ability : Guts
EVs: 116 HP/252Atk/4Def/136SpDef
Adamant

Drain Punch/ Knock Off/Ice Punch/ Mach Punch

0 SpA Heatran Lava Plume vs. 216 HP / 136 SpD Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 85-102 (20.9 - 25.1%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO

252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 270-320 (70.1 - 83.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Did you just status me? Thank you for making me stronger.
 
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Sorry, I actually meant 116 HP.

Mega Charizard Y
Drought
EVs: 252 SPAtk/252 Speed/4Atk
Mild Nature

Fire Blast
Solar Beam
Focus Punch
Substitute

0 Atk Mawile Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Mega Charizard Y: 96-114 (32.3 - 38.3%) -- 98.1% chance to 3HKO

No need for explanation.
 
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LightBlast said:
Sorry, I actually meant 116 HP.

Mega Charizard Y
Drought
EVs: 252 SPAtk/252 Speed/4Atk
Mild Nature

Fire Blast
Solar Beam
Focus Punch
Substitute

0 Atk Mawile Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4- Def Mega Charizard Y: 96-114 (32.3 - 38.3%) -- 98.1% chance to 3HKO

No need for explanation.
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Aggron @ Shell Bell
Ability: Sturdy
Nature: Brave
EV: 100 Attack, 152 Defense, 252 Sp. Defense, 4 Speed
Moves: Stone Edge, Rock Tomb, Smack Down, Iron Defense

Rock Tomb to lower speed. Shell Bell to heal. Smack Down to destroy Substitute and possibly finish off. Stone Edge for quad damage.
 
Archer99 said:
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Weaville @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure

EV's: 252 Atk / 232 Spe / 24 Def
Nature: Jolly

- Ice Punch
- Ice Shard
- Knock Off
- Low Kick

R.I.P Latios. Ice Punch and Knock Off are OHKO, Ice Shard is a 2HKO, And Low Kick is a 5HKO. Latios makes 2HKO With Dragon Pulse, But Weavile is faster so it can resist one attack and kill it

252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Knock Off vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Latios: 315-374 (104.3 - 123.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Latios: 361-429 (119.5 - 142%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Latios Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Weavile: 160-189 (56.9 - 67.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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You calced wrong

Mega stones cant be knocked off so

252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Latias: 226-268 (75 - 89%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Latias: 260-307 (86.3 - 101.9%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Aka weavile doesnt mega Latias

Anyway,

Alomomola@Rocky Helmet
252 Def / 252 Sp.Def / 6 HP
Bold Nature
Trait: Regenerator
- Mirror Coat
- Soak
- Toxic
- Wish


G______________________g
 
Charizard gets Focus Punch?

But as for Alomomola:

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-Black Kyurem w/Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Outrage, Fusion Bolt, Iron Head, Ice Beam

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 364-430 (77.1 - 91.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Alomomola can't heal itself fast enough, especially since it lacks Protect and lefties, and Kyu doesn't care about Rocky Helmet since Fusion Bolt isn't a contact move for some reason.

I also don't understand why (Black) Kyurem doesn't get Ice Punch but Wooper does.....
 
I was going to use Ferro again but it gets KO'd before it gets to finish it off. Finding counters were difficult but luckily, I've found a match! So now, first time I'm using a mega in this thread:
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Aggron-M @ Aggronite
Trait: Sturdy---> Filter
EVs: 252hp/136def/120spd
Impish nature (+Def, -Sp. Atk)
-Iron Head
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Toxic

If we are applying that Mega Aggron has already Mega Evolved then Kyurem's best option is a 4HKO:
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Mega Aggron: 90-106 (26.1 - 30.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

If Aggron switches into a Fusion Bolt as its normal form in order to mega:
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Aggron: 110-130 (31.9 - 37.7%) -- 93.3% chance to 3HKO

And then, it will 2HKO with Iron Head (standard runs Heavy Slam but it does worse damage in that case):
0 Atk Mega Aggron Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem-B: 230-272 (58.8 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Now, I believe Megas get their M. stats when they mega evolve (barring Speed); if that's the case then Aggron will be at a slither of health left (assuming max damage for all Fusion Bolts).

Icicle Crash would be more rad for Kyurem, just saying. :P
 
Mega Medicham @ Medichamite
Adamant
Pure Power

4 HP/ 252 Att/ 252 Def
High Jump Kick
Fire Punch
Drain Punch
Bulk Up

252+ Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 235-279 (68.3 - 81.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 136-162 (39.5 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

0 Atk Mega Aggron Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Mega Medicham: 102-120 (38.9 - 45.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

0 Atk Mega Aggron Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Mega Medicham: 85-100 (32.4 - 38.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
 
no offense (okay maybe...) but the posts here are getting stupider and stupider =-= apart from elf's (and other well thought posts) which are actually counters and amusing. like srsly u gonna wall zard-y with aggron, krookodile with random garbage sharpedo? cool beans bruh...

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Sableye @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster -> Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Dark Pulse
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
 
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-Seismitoad w/Life Orb
Nature: Modest
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 80 HP, 252 Sp.Attack, 192 Speed, 4 Defense
Moves: Hydro Pump, Earth Power, Focus Blast, Sludge Wave

Heatran's Earth Power is its best bet, but is only a 3HKO:
252+ SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 80 HP / 0 SpD Seismitoad: 137-162 (36.9 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

And then Seismitoad can OHKO with Hydro Pump:
252+ SpA Life Orb Seismitoad Hydro Pump vs. 12 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 367-432 (112.5 - 132.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Noivern @ Life Orb
Infiltrator
Modest

252 Sp Atk/ 156 Sp Def/ 100 Spe

Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Hurricane
Air Slash

252+ SpA Life Orb Noivern Hurricane vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Roserade: 400-476 (153.8 - 183%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Noivern Air Slash vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Roserade: 276-328 (106.1 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Noivern Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Roserade: 238-281 (91.5 - 108%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Noivern Flamethrower vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Roserade: 221-260 (85 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 156 SpD Noivern: 187-222 (60.1 - 71.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Technician Roserade Hidden Power Fire vs. 0 HP / 156 SpD Noivern: 62-74 (19.9 - 23.7%) -- possible 5HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 156 SpD Noivern: 39-45 (12.5 - 14.4%) -- possible 7HKO

Every one of noivern's moves has the potential to OHKO, but its best best is to use air slash as soon as it switched in, to avoid being hit by the second sludge bomb from roserade.
 
People need to account for burns when posting counters, there is a reason Scald and Wisp is on sets. Just something ive noticed.


Anyway.

Venusaur@Venusaur Clown Stone
Rash Nature
160 HP / 252 S.Atk / 96 Speed
Chlorophyll --->Thick Fat (ask your mom)
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Giga Drain
- Earthquake

offensive saurrr
 
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