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Do you believe in Jesus/God?

Believe in Jesus/God

  • Yes

    Votes: 57 46.7%

  • No

    Votes: 49 40.2%

  • Don't know

    Votes: 16 13.1%
  • Total voters
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well i believe in god. but i dont. what i mean is, i dont understand how a single 'being' can exist without a form or forms. I dont understand how a single being can create the whole universe and everything thing on earth. What my thing is, god created every living thing, man animals etc.. But he says that man can go into heaven and that animals cant. IT confuses me on how Man can have souls and animals dont. And about jesus, thats a little iffy for me. Because logically it doesn't make sense on how a man can perform all these miracles and whatnot. Christianity is based upon this man but this man technically was a jew. so does that mean that the whole christian religion is actually just jewish. because if you think about it if jesus was a jew, does that me we (christians) are jews?
Next is the afterlife. Is there really any proof that we have an afterlife at all? whats to say that when we die, we just die and we just dont exist. That scares me for many reason. I just cant imagine not existing. i just cant imagine floating around in a huge while non existent area. get what im saying?
See what i truly believe in is this; i believe that theres a god. I believe that god is all mighty and creates your fate before you are born. I believe that when you are alive, you are actually just a living 'dream'; by this i mean we are all just dreams, just beings that are not real, that we are just the imagination of one god; that we dont exist. What i belive in next is this, that when we die, are given a choice; to either let our spirits stay on earth and wonder this planet for all of time OR choose to come back again, depending on how you were in your original life, as a human and relive a life. BUT for us to be reborn, we have to face good. we must approach him and explain our reasons for wanting to be reborn. What we should explain to god it this; the sins we have commited, the good deeds we have done in our lives, and tell him why he thinks we should be revived into another human again. if he agrees that we lived a life deserving of being reborn, then we are born again in the bod of another human baby, thus forgetting the life we have left(this step could take up to a day or ever thousands of years to happen), or if you've lived a bad life, god will revive you, but revive you in the body of an animal and you are given the task of having to prove yourself to god to be reborn as a human yet again. This is where past lives come in.
People say there are no such things as past lives, but then why do people get the images, or dreams, of places that they obviously dont know and obviosly havent been to before. So this leads to me saying, that we are just a reincarnation of a past life over and over again and that all of us have, technically, been alive since the begining of time.

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AuraAshley said:
well i believe in god. but i dont. what i mean is, i dont understand how a single 'being' can exist without a form or forms. I dont understand how a single being can create the whole universe and everything thing on earth. What my thing is, god created every living thing, man animals etc.. But he says that man can go into heaven and that animals cant. IT confuses me on how Man can have souls and animals dont. And about jesus, thats a little iffy for me. Because logically it doesn't make sense on how a man can perform all these miracles and whatnot. Christianity is based upon this man but this man technically was a jew. so does that mean that the whole christian religion is actually just jewish. because if you think about it if jesus was a jew, does that me we (christians) are jews?
Next is the afterlife. Is there really any proof that we have an afterlife at all? whats to say that when we die, we just die and we just dont exist. That scares me for many reason. I just cant imagine not existing. i just cant imagine floating around in a huge while non existent area. get what im saying?
See what i truly believe in is this; i believe that theres a god. I believe that god is all mighty and creates your fate before you are born. I believe that when you are alive, you are actually just a living 'dream'; by this i mean we are all just dreams, just beings that are not real, that we are just the imagination of one god; that we dont exist. What i belive in next is this, that when we die, are given a choice; to either let our spirits stay on earth and wonder this planet for all of time OR choose to come back again, depending on how you were in your original life, as a human and relive a life. BUT for us to be reborn, we have to face good. we must approach him and explain our reasons for wanting to be reborn. What we should explain to god it this; the sins we have commited, the good deeds we have done in our lives, and tell him why he thinks we should be revived into another human again. if he agrees that we lived a life deserving of being reborn, then we are born again in the bod of another human baby, thus forgetting the life we have left(this step could take up to a day or ever thousands of years to happen), or if you've lived a bad life, god will revive you, but revive you in the body of an animal and you are given the task of having to prove yourself to god to be reborn as a human yet again. This is where past lives come in.
People say there are no such things as past lives, but then why do people get the images, or dreams, of places that they obviously dont know and obviosly havent been to before. So this leads to me saying, that we are just a reincarnation of a past life over and over again and that all of us have, technically, been alive since the begining of time.

=]
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Never thought of something like that but i believe you have a third choice going to heaven. Also if you have been evil you will go to hell. But an interesting way of thinking there AuraAshley. Never thought of it that way.
 
Lord of the Reck said:
Never thought of something like that but i believe you have a third choice going to heaven. Also if you have been evil you will go to hell. But an interesting way of thinking there AuraAshley. Never thought of it that way.
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ya a lot of people say that. i just dont belive that heaven can be our final stop. i belive theres more then just heaven like i explained
 
Starzy said:
"The Big Bang Theory"
Many non-believers believe it is the Big Bang theory that made us all.
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Science doesn't explain how the Big Bang came about in the first place.

Nor does it explain how, so coincidentally, intelligent life managed to form. Sure, evolution. But where did the single-celled organisms come from?
 
Do you believe in Jesus/God?
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I dunno. I've been asking myself that question for the longest time........
I've been raised as a Protestant, but....religion is just so confusing for me now, that I've decided to not worry about it anymore till I'm pushing up daisies. :)
 
The Big Bang was obviously caused by something. What is that something? Could it be a God or a celestial being? That is why I believe the Big Bang theory and I also believe in God. They fit together.
 
Lord GaGa said:
The Big Bang was obviously caused by something. What is that something? Could it be a God or a celestial being? That is why I believe the Big Bang theory and I also believe in God. They fit together.
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But...that's madness!

The Big Bang has never made much sense to me. It takes as much "what if" and "maybe-ing" to make a theory like that work as it does to believe in God. And from a scientific standpoint I think God is just as likely as something as unlikely as the Big Bang.
 
jasonresno said:
But...that's madness!

The Big Bang has never made much sense to me. It takes as much "what if" and "maybe-ing" to make a theory like that work as it does to believe in God. And from a scientific standpoint I think God is just as likely as something as unlikely as the Big Bang.
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with the Big Bang theory, it explains why the universe is constantly expanding. The problem is when people try to use the Big Bang as the reason for why matter exists, as opposed to using it to explain how celestial bodies were formed.
 
icomeanon6 said:
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the Big Bang theory, it explains why the universe is constantly expanding. The problem is when people try to use the Big Bang as the reason for why matter exists, as opposed to using it to explain how celestial bodies were formed.
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with it? It's perfect? Nah, the problem with the Big Bang theory is the same as every other theory.

Well, what started the Big Bang?

Something had to exist for the Big Bang to exist. And if something existed to kick start the Big Bang...well where did that come from?

And that's why I'm pretty confident we'll never be satisfied with a scientific answer. To each his own but claiming that the Big Bang theory has absolutely nothing wrong with it is a giiiggannttiiicc stretch.
 
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I don't believe in God. It all stemmed from my youth when my Mom forced me to take CCD classes and made me go to church, so I could follow and do certain things. I hate having restrictions and because of that, I have a negative outlook on all religions.

Sure, you may find a sense of fulfillment, but I'd rather do things my way and not have some book or some dude say what I can and can't do.
 
Mario The World Champion said:
I don't believe in God. It all stemmed from my youth when my Mom forced me to take CCD classes and made me go to church, so I could follow and do certain things. I hate having restrictions and because of that, I have a negative outlook on all religions.
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I can see where you're coming from with CCD and going to church. I don't mind either of them, but it's obvious why lots of people have problems with them. I kind of wish that parents would be less forceful in how they involve their kids in religion, all it does is drive them away from religion. It just defeats the purpose of religion if you force it on someone.
 
I myself, do not believe in God.

- The idea of the Big Bang theory in the creation of the universe is not a concrete fact: it is merely a theory. If such an event did occur however, this does not fully and completely prove the existence of God. The fact that something cannot be created from nothing lobbies in support of believers, but the idea of a god has existed for ages simply because the human race has desired a reason to explain why even the many natural wonders of today occur. We will never find a true scientific fact behind the creation of the universe, but we will never find true proof that God created the universe.

- Stories of creation, particularly those found in the Bible, have been passed down by word of mouth for thousands and thousands of years, meaning that even in terms of literature, the Bible, mostly the Old Testament, is a collection of myths. At this point in time, we believe that ancient Greek legends are myths and is an example of the human race beginning to explain the natural phenomena of our world and universe through divine influence. During these times, these were widely accepted beliefs. In this day and age, we proclaim these to be false simply because we have proven that these are simply stories. However, are the common beliefs of most modern religions not the same?

- Though the basic ideas of Christianity are present in the Bible, the Bible was not put into a written form until recently in terms of human history. Therefore, the Bible is not a reliable source in terms of actual events. It has also been confirmed many times that the Bible has been altered and lost in translation, presenting the possibility of error. What one person believes is correct according to the Bible may be incorrect according to another person who also cites the Bible. There are also many forms of the Bible to reflect Protestant and Catholic beliefs in which even entire books have been removed. As mentioned before, what one believes is right may be wrong even according to a completely different revision.


I do believe that Jesus was as real as the keyboard I am typing with right now. However, I do believe certain things about him.

I believe that Jesus was a very highly intelligent man who knew much about the wonders of the world and applied them to use in his miracles. However, I do not believe that his miracles were influenced by supernatural means, but rather instead they were influenced by natural phenomena that people of the time did not completely understand. The blind man mentioned in the Bible may have had cataracts; the sick man may have had a disease that was easily treated. However, that does not mean he did not do such things. For doing such things, many believed that he was the Messiah, and would refuse to think otherwise. Therefore, he had to succumb to the idea that the people thought he was the Messiah based on the way he was celebrated at birth, for what Mary saw in an angel may have been a dream.

I do also believe that Jesus also died as a crucifix. We will never be able to truly tell if the man who emerged from the tomb truly was Jesus, however. It could very well have been a good look-alike. Doubting Thomas could support his argument.

It doesn't mean that I don't respect religion however... I am tired of atheists who bash religion, for the idea of morality was born with religion and most ideals that the law upholds are based off of ancient religious principles expanding past what we know today. But I don't particularly like believers who bash atheists for their beliefs. They bring themselves down to a cynical atheist's level.

In short, I am an atheist, but some Christian ideals, mostly regarding Jesus, I can synthesize with.
 
Capt. Couch said:
I myself, do not believe in God.

- The idea of the Big Bang theory in the creation of the universe is not a concrete fact: it is merely a theory. If such an event did occur however, this does not fully and completely prove the existence of God. The fact that something cannot be created from nothing lobbies in support of believers, but the idea of a god has existed for ages simply because the human race has desired a reason to explain why even the many natural wonders of today occur. We will never find a true scientific fact behind the creation of the universe, but we will never find true proof that God created the universe.

- Stories of creation, particularly those found in the Bible, have been passed down by word of mouth for thousands and thousands of years, meaning that even in terms of literature, the Bible, mostly the Old Testament, is a collection of myths. At this point in time, we believe that ancient Greek legends are myths and is an example of the human race beginning to explain the natural phenomena of our world and universe through divine influence. During these times, these were widely accepted beliefs. In this day and age, we proclaim these to be false simply because we have proven that these are simply stories. However, are the common beliefs of most modern religions not the same?

- Though the basic ideas of Christianity are present in the Bible, the Bible was not put into a written form until recently in terms of human history. Therefore, the Bible is not a reliable source in terms of actual events. It has also been confirmed many times that the Bible has been altered and lost in translation, presenting the possibility of error. What one person believes is correct according to the Bible may be incorrect according to another person who also cites the Bible. There are also many forms of the Bible to reflect Protestant and Catholic beliefs in which even entire books have been removed. As mentioned before, what one believes is right may be wrong even according to a completely different revision.


I do believe that Jesus was as real as the keyboard I am typing with right now. However, I do believe certain things about him.

I believe that Jesus was a very highly intelligent man who knew much about the wonders of the world and applied them to use in his miracles. However, I do not believe that his miracles were influenced by supernatural means, but rather instead they were influenced by natural phenomena that people of the time did not completely understand. The blind man mentioned in the Bible may have had cataracts; the sick man may have had a disease that was easily treated. However, that does not mean he did not do such things. For doing such things, many believed that he was the Messiah, and would refuse to think otherwise. Therefore, he had to succumb to the idea that the people thought he was the Messiah based on the way he was celebrated at birth, for what Mary saw in an angel may have been a dream.

I do also believe that Jesus also died as a crucifix. We will never be able to truly tell if the man who emerged from the tomb truly was Jesus, however. It could very well have been a good look-alike. Doubting Thomas could support his argument.

It doesn't mean that I don't respect religion however... I am tired of atheists who bash religion, for the idea of morality was born with religion and most ideals that the law upholds are based off of ancient religious principles expanding past what we know today. But I don't particularly like believers who bash atheists for their beliefs. They bring themselves down to a cynical atheist's level.

In short, I am an atheist, but some Christian ideals, mostly regarding Jesus, I can synthesize with.
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An excellent post here...Gotta give it to you man ^_^ you've stated what you think on both sides of the argument, which was pretty sensible :P

True, the big bang is merely a theory, and should not be taken to heart. it is just a possible reason for the world being created. Mind you people, consider this: Some of you say the big bang couldn't have really happened because there might'nt have been anything to ignite the big bang.

What about God? think of him/her/it as a "Big Bang" of sorts. What created him? What "ignited" God? Of course, some people would say that God has always been there. Doesn't that make it just as likely that whatever started the big bang has always been there? See, when people talk about religion, we think God, Allah etc or the big bang. Don't people sometimes forget the possibility of it being something we can't even imagine?

Still, i'm not looking for an argument here. just think about it ^_^ I too am one of those people who, while not wholly religious, do respect and use the postive ideals that religion DOES give.
 
I respect other people's views definatly. I'm just not sure about whever it's valid or not.
 
Yes I do believe in God, so I am a Christian. But if you believe in something else, I won't force you to believe in something that you think it doesn't exist. I do think there is a God out there, and he is watching us. But that is what I think. Whatever you think is fine by me. I won't hold a grudge on you. That is the problem with society today. If don't believe what others believe you are a outcast. It shouldn't be like that at all. Everyone should have the right to believe of what they believe and keep like that with no confrontation. And don't force anyone! Forcing anyone is really bad as well.
 
I believe in God. ^_^

All that's to be said.
 
absolutely...but I also believe that we are reincarnated after our death...at least three days after...
 
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