Do you believe in Jesus/God?

Believe in Jesus/God

  • Yes

    Votes: 57 46.7%

  • No

    Votes: 49 40.2%

  • Don't know

    Votes: 16 13.1%
  • Total voters
    122
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Yep. I'm a Catholic. So I was raised, and put into a Catholic school, and been thought about the word of god and such. Never going to be an atheist.
 
People are arguing about the Christian view of God. You know, you can always look at Islam for a change. Then argue that to pieces. Try it, why don't you? There are many scientific facts in the Qur'an that were brought forward 1400 years ago. I'll show you some quotes here from the Qur'an Please don't use the internet for quotations unless you know what you are looking for.

Please read this website >>here<<. It's got all the evidence you need.

Now tell me that Allah doesn't exist.
 
I suppose I do. But I really wonder at times. And then I get all confused thinking about life's purpose and what not.
 
Lord GaGa said:
People are arguing about the Christian view of God. You know, you can always look at Islam for a change. Then argue that to pieces. Try it, why don't you? There are many scientific facts in the Qur'an that were brought forward 1400 years ago. I'll show you some quotes here from the Qur'an Please don't use the internet for quotations unless you know what you are looking for.

Please read this website >>here<<. It's got all the evidence you need.

Now tell me that Allah doesn't exist.
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ALLAH DOESN'T EXIST

Lol i have to admit that article about the Qur'an is pretty interesting. ^_^
 
Yes, I believe that there is a god.
Think about it... someone must have created all these things around you.

Big bang, the first life, human mind, you name it! All of these must have been created by someone, isn't it? It's too good to have been done by itself. Besides, science isn't the right answer all the time. God can evade science, you know...

That said, I'm kind of athiest - only a bit. I still have belief about some aspects of religion. And no, I'm not Christian. Anyone thinking otherwise can happily argue with me till either of us are proven wrong. :)
 
NoBel_ToKYo ™ said:
ALLAH DOESN'T EXIST

Lol i have to admit that article about the Qur'an is pretty interesting. ^_^
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Interesting? They're ground-breaking! These articles should be changing the face of the earth! But no one looks at the religion branded as the root of terrorism.

Nah, seriously, it's cool. At least you've had a look at them. I can't expect to change the world with a webpage, can I?
 
I don't believe in God. It's just all too nonsense and extraordinary for me to believe.

I do believe there was a man called Jesus, though. Afterall, we live in 2009 after Christ, so he must've did something. And by something I don't mean revive or some magical thing like that.
 
rikanai. said:
Afterall, we live in 2009 after Christ, so he must've did something.
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Actually the numbering of years in AD was thought up some 500 years after Christ supposedly existed; it just started being used after Christianity spread throughout Europe. I guess we will never really know if Christ existed or not.
 
Lord GaGa said:
Interesting? They're ground-breaking! These articles should be changing the face of the earth! But no one looks at the religion branded as the root of terrorism.

Nah, seriously, it's cool. At least you've had a look at them. I can't expect to change the world with a webpage, can I?
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Lol it'd be pretty extraordinary if you did ^_^
 
Okay if I do not say this I am going to go into cardiac arrest.

1. Jesus is not god and no christians think he is. They think/claim to know he is the son of god.
2. Jesus has been proven to be a real person. The only debate is whether or not he is the son of god. It's like saying "Do you believe in a desk/god?"
3. I personally do not believe in god but I think there is a possibility of him existing. You can't say there is a god, and I can't say there isn't. No one knows if there is or isn't. And anyone who claims to is a moron on proportional scales.

^0^ Thank you.
 
You didn't know that Jesus was a real person? Scientists and archaelogists have found evidence for this years ago. The only rason he was so hard to find out about was that Jesus was such a common name it is like Muhammad for today's standards. He also didn't have a last name - Men back then just took their first name and where they were from like Jesus did (his full name was Jesus of Narazeth).

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gamingmaster12 said:
Yes, I believe that there is a god.
Think about it... someone must have created all these things around you.

Big bang, the first life, human mind, you name it! All of these must have been created by someone, isn't it? It's too good to have been done by itself. Besides, science isn't the right answer all the time. God can evade science, you know...
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This is the 'Causation' Argument, right? everything must have a cause, so a chain of causes would be

Universe <-----is caused by----the big bang

Now some people like to add:

Universe <-----is caused by----the big bang <----is caused by---- God

because they say that everything has a cause, including the big bang. But then you get this problem:

Universe <-----is caused by----the big bang <----is caused by---- God <----is caused by--- ?

What is the question mark? you can't say that the Big Bang needs a cause and then say that God doesn't need a cause - that's contradiction. The only other plausible answer is that we have an infinite chain of Gods, all creating each other. But that's just...silly...isn't it?

Just my two cents. What say you?

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-[JD]- said:
You didn't know that Jesus was a real person? Scientists and archaelogists have found evidence for this years ago. The only rason he was so hard to find out about was that Jesus was such a common name it is like Muhammad for today's standards. He also didn't have a last name - Men back then just took their first name and where they were from like Jesus did (his full name was Jesus of Narazeth).

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ummmm....

That Essay said:
The Jesus Christ of the Gospels could not possibly have been a real person. Did you read this before you posted it? He is a combination of impossible elements. There may have lived in Palestine, nineteen centuries ago, a man whose name was Jesus, who went about doing good, who was followed by admiring associates, and who in the end met a violent death. 'May' being the important word... But of this possible person, not a line was written when he lived, and of his life and character the world of to-day knows absolutely nothing. So this goes against what you were saying....This Jesus, if he lived, was a man; and if he was a reformer, he was but one of many that have lived and died in every age of the world.
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I don't mean to be rude, but this essay thing that you posted goes against what you said in your post. unless you were being sarcastic....
 
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I think belief in God makes things much easier. I mean, we don't have to explore the mysteries of the universe and send people off.

And has anyone other than Nobel Tokyo (I can't be bothered using all those things in your name :P) clicked on my link, or are they going to continue to argue against Christianity? If not, Allah has won this battle, not 'God'.

Oh, and Allah clearly said that He was not caused by anything. He was infinite and has existed all the time. And He will never die. How can He be limited by his own creation of time? Here's the quote:
Say (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)): "He is Allah, (the) One.
"Allah-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks).
"He begets not, nor was He begotten;
"And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him." 1-4:112
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I Laugh at your Misfortune! said:
This is the 'Causation' Argument, right? everything must have a cause, so a chain of causes would be

Universe <-----is caused by----the big bang

Now some people like to add:

Universe <-----is caused by----the big bang <----is caused by---- God

because they say that everything has a cause, including the big bang. But then you get this problem:

Universe <-----is caused by----the big bang <----is caused by---- God <----is caused by--- ?

What is the question mark? you can't say that the Big Bang needs a cause and then say that God doesn't need a cause - that's contradiction. The only other plausible answer is that we have an infinite chain of Gods, all creating each other. But that's just...silly...isn't it?
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Exactly what I've been trying to say. The Big Bang (if it happened) was a natural process, and was not created by anything. It just... happened.
 
Alakazam17 said:
It's not that I don't believe or disbelieve in Jesus, or any other god or deity.

It's just that...I don't care. XD

Regardless of whether there is a god or not, I live my life according to my morals, and not according to anything Jesus may tell me to do. Though having said this, we're usually on the same wavelength. ^^
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THiS

also you have to remember that the bible is now over 2000 years old people dident do anything all day and the world was very VERY different i just dont think you could take it seriously
 
Horizon said:
Exactly what I've been trying to say. The Big Bang (if it happened) was a natural process, and was not created by anything. It just... happened.
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Just 'happened', didn't it? Well, why can't you say the same thing about God? He probably just 'happened' as well. Maybe he was just another natural process as well. If you can say the same for everything else, why can't you say the same about God? No, everything nowadays, all the theories, have to be new. Once someone brings up God, people say 'No! That's what they thought millennia ago! We're living in the 21st century here! God is old news!'

When people say the universe 'just happened', they don't bother to understand what created it. How could a natural process occur from nothing? We've been saying that God can create things from nothing for years, and when we bring it up now against new theories, they say that its impossible. Tell me how the universe was created, then, if we leave out God.

Universe <--- Big Bang <--- ?

We still have that question mark. But you purposely omit that, branding the Big Bang as a natural occurrence. But God? No! He can't be a natural occurrence, can he? I think not.
 
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