How many Brits or Canadian kids are crossing the border illegally and applying for asylum?
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/08/07/dhs-foreigners-overstayed-visas-2017/924316002/
Canadians are the biggest offenders for overstaying visa and a noted number of French and Brits routinely overstay visas as well. Yet ICE isn't stopping busses of white people to make sure none of those pesky red coats are hiding on them.
Also, you cannot illegally cross a border and apply for asylum. If you are applying for asylum you are following international law and therefore your crossing of the border was legal. You would only be illegally entering the country if you failed to seek asylum and successfully entered the country off the grid.
So it's entirely politically motivated, then these camps did not exist before Trump?
That's a logical fallacy. The camps existing before Trump is completely irrelevant. It was wrong then, absolutely, but he has rapidly increased the scope of it.
https://cmsny.org/trumps-executive-orders-immigration-refugees/
https://time.com/4473972/donald-trump-mexico-meeting-insult/
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/09/trump-ice/565772/
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...ights-advocates-vow-fight-unlawful-trump-plan
https://globalnews.ca/news/4284138/separation-children-parents-us-border-permanent/
Of course, not that it matters who started it, the US has always been institutionally racist, whether it was Obama's ICE caging US citizens for years or Trump's ICE "losing" over 3,000 children.
Now letting the caravans in with out properly documenting each person, making sure they do not have a criminal history, making sure they are not carrying diseases is a national security risk.
So, we're in agreement it's presented as a national security risk, gotcha.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rant-detention-camp-donna-texas-a9023591.html so much so that the US army are now manning some of the camps. An army branch of a far right govt manning camps comprised entirely of minority groups. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I think this happened before somewhere a few times. Tricky, it's almost like there's a repeat going on of...well.....geez...British/German/Japanese/French/Spanish/American concentration camps of olde!
However that is not what is happening here is it? They are putting people in these camps, and then slowly releasing them.
Some people are literally there for years. There are people in ICE detention who've been there longer than most British POWs were in Japanese camps during the second World War.
So again I ask, if they pose such a national security risk by letting them out at all, why are they going through the process of allowing them to apply for asylum?
pesky little thing called International Law.
As for targeting people based on ethnic appearance, do you mind providing an example, as I already shot one down.
uh yeah, there were over 300,000 (that's more than Mexicans who attempted to enter the country illegally) white foreigners who overstayed their visas since Trump came into office (and we will see it increase again for 2018) and yet not a single one of them has ended up in the camps and ICE are not out there demanding to see the papers and birth certificates of whites on the street, in busses, at work etc on the off chance they're an illegal brit or canadian.
I have not defended the state of the facilities
No, just their right to detain children in squalid conditions almost indefinitely with no due process.
I have said more money needs to be placed in there, more man power, etc etc
https://www.gq.com/story/trump-detention-camps-cost
they've already got plenty of money going in and still they're making kids eat frozen meals and refusing to let them wash. They've got the man power, it's walking around with guns.
However the fact documents like birth certificates and social security numbers are easily faked in the US, and that his name was bringing up problems in the system, can be understood as to why he was taken into custody.
They can check both of those for legitimacy with ease and simply refused to whilst also denying him his legal rights. So uh, it's not understandable in the slightest and would never have happened to a white person.
It was not a case of "Oh he looks hispanic, get him" as you made it out to be.
Yes it was. They aren't stop searching every car of whites they see, they are doing it to every car of "Hispanic looking people" they see.
They are overcrowded no doubt, there needs to be better living conditions and more money placed into it. That is one thing we both agree on.
Again, they are already paying the equivalent of roughly $23,000 pcm per kid. How much more money do you need to supply $60 beds and basic sanitary facilities? Also I don't agree with you at all, I think every ICE official should be tried at the Hague and the camps shut down and left empty as a reminder to the world just how despicable the apparent land of the free really is.