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Oryx said:
I just called my new boss today to figure out what I was doing - apparently he's so excited to have me there that he's been going out of his way to get work in my skillset. B] Pretty psyched.
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That's awesome! ^^

Where will you be working at?
 
Hey, that's pretty awesome, Toujours!

As for me, I'll just be doing my regular awesome freelancing thing. I'm still trying to get better at web development, since I'm intending to start doing a bit of that maybe.
 
Even though my first day was nearly 100% shadowing my supervisor and other student colleagues, I still really enjoyed being at work. Of course though the office was quiet at times, but I was able to have some small talk when no one was busy, and get some food as well.
 
Sounds like a great job, I'm sure you'll be good at it. Like you told me, Internships are the best ways to get jobs and I'm going to try to utilize that next year in college.

Wow, time sure flies! xD
 
The only internships I've joined are paid internships. I've found it very egregious how people in our society complain about low wages in jobs and employment, yet when you mention interns having to do equal or harder work for no income at all, nobody bats an eyelid.

Doing work for no pay is a rotten deal. I've got bills to pay, so stop wasting my time.
 
I've heard of paid internships, but I've just never been able to distinguish the difference between that and an actual job. I do know that the concept of internships just allows for people to shadow others (and eventually even perform tasks on their own) in the field that they're going into, but I had always thought that those would be without pay, but rather for college credit.
 
It really depends where you are but internships are, apparently, supposed to not be you actually working on the job you're assigned to but learning the skills you need in order to be able to have that job as an actual job. Or something like that when I saw a discussion on how internships are supposed to work some other place. And I believe you get paid because you're still working but also learning while you are doing so? And also because if you do good at your internship then by the end you might already have a job lined up at said internship and it's even better if you're already getting paid for it.

Alas, a lot of internships do tend to function simply like entry-level jobs which doesn't help distinguish the difference.

(But don't quote me on this I'm probably wrong like usual hahahah)
 
Yeah a lot of the times internships are paid because you're working but not paid as much as jobs because you're not skilled enough to work for that company. Or they're unpaid because you're really using the job as another class, the hands-on career class. It is kind of a scam, but what can you do?
 
All this college talk reminds me of my old school, Fountain-Fort Carson HS. Pretty much everyone who was anyone was college-bound or military-bound, and I remember seeing many of my ROTC friends go into the Air Force, the Army, and our old battalion Command Sergeant-Major went into the Marines. Pretty much everyone else in our HS JROTC was going to do college ROTC and then commission, and those not interested in the military would just go into college - more than a few were getting into nursing and stuff and very few were shooting for less than a bachelor's with many indecisive between a master's or a doctorate's in their field.

At my new school things float on the opposite end of the spectrum; more than a few people delving into crime, your average ones going to the taco bell for a minimum wage job, and your few brainiacs that might have a plan to get a bachelor's. I myself am still uncertain in regard to college due to the debt it entails, and being directly enslaved to money is something I really don't like. In the end going to college for most people is backed by the reasoning that it'll land a well-paying job so you can live the good life, but at that I look and ask, "how is money beneficial at that point?" It doesn't bring happiness and often instead breeds greed and lust; those two things I'm more than turned off at. :<

In the end I'd rather be penniless and happy than with all the money I could ask for with dissatisfaction.
 
Alex said:
All this college talk reminds me of my old school, Fountain-Fort Carson HS. Pretty much everyone who was anyone was college-bound or military-bound, and I remember seeing many of my ROTC friends go into the Air Force, the Army, and our old battalion Command Sergeant-Major went into the Marines. Pretty much everyone else in our HS JROTC was going to do college ROTC and then commission, and those not interested in the military would just go into college - more than a few were getting into nursing and stuff and very few were shooting for less than a bachelor's with many indecisive between a master's or a doctorate's in their field.

At my new school things float on the opposite end of the spectrum; more than a few people delving into crime, your average ones going to the taco bell for a minimum wage job, and your few brainiacs that might have a plan to get a bachelor's. I myself am still uncertain in regard to college due to the debt it entails, and being directly enslaved to money is something I really don't like. In the end going to college for most people is backed by the reasoning that it'll land a well-paying job so you can live the good life, but at that I look and ask, "how is money beneficial at that point?" It doesn't bring happiness and often instead breeds greed and lust; those two things I'm more than turned off at. :<

In the end I'd rather be penniless and happy than with all the money I could ask for with dissatisfaction.
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Have you ever had to wonder where your next meal was coming from, in reality? Poverty is far from romantic.
 
As much as we want to hope we don't work just for money, we pretty much have to in most situations. It can be hellish & turn people nasty or bitter, but that's the hand that is dealt
 
Oryx said:
Have you ever had to wonder where your next meal was coming from, in reality? Poverty is far from romantic.
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Can you imagine the feeling of being humble in going without? It's such a treasure that I envy; feeling at peace and unconcerned with the haves and have-nots. I imagine that level of selflessness would bring the things you need out of karma alone.
 
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Can you imagine feeling humble in being without? It's such a treasure that I envy; feeling at peace and unconcerned with the haves and have-nots. I imagine that level of selflessness would bring the things you need out of karma alone.
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That's not how it works, unfortunately. As someone who was saved from living on the streets by a convicted murderer just out of jail because my family was too poor to afford bills, among other degrading things, there is no "at peace and unconcerned" in poverty. You're imagining a romantic poverty from books and movies, a poverty that doesn't destroy your weight and immune system due to stress, doesn't keep you away from doctors you can't afford and can't take time off of work (if you have it) to visit, doesn't tear down the dignity of choice in how you live your life, doesn't leave you hungry every night of the week, doesn't leave you in situations regularly where you have to fear for your safety but have no choice if you want to survive.

There is no peace in poverty. Poverty is difficult, painful, stressful, and a situation I wouldn't wish on my enemies. I don't have to imagine what it's like to live in poverty, of feeling humbled because I have no choice on what to eat; it's whatever the food bank had that week again. It's easy to romanticize poverty if you've never lived through it; I went to a private school on a scholarship and there were plenty of people there that did it, as well as people in my university who will spend an afternoon a week volunteering and think that they know what poverty is and that it's noble and beautiful and on and on ugh.
 
Unfortunately the real world doesn't cater to humble people, and there's no guaranteed justice from being poor and humble. If humbleness is an additional characteristic you have, great. But you can't rely on it to move forward in life.
 
Oryx said:
That's not how it works, unfortunately. As someone who was saved from living on the streets by a convicted murderer just out of jail because my family was too poor to afford bills, among other degrading things, there is no "at peace and unconcerned" in poverty. You're imagining a romantic poverty from books and movies, a poverty that doesn't destroy your weight and immune system due to stress, doesn't keep you away from doctors you can't afford and can't take time off of work (if you have it) to visit, doesn't tear down the dignity of choice in how you live your life, doesn't leave you hungry every night of the week, doesn't leave you in situations regularly where you have to fear for your safety but have no choice if you want to survive.

There is no peace in poverty. Poverty is difficult, painful, stressful, and a situation I wouldn't wish on my enemies. I don't have to imagine what it's like to live in poverty, of feeling humbled because I have no choice on what to eat; it's whatever the food bank had that week again. It's easy to romanticize poverty if you've never lived through it; I went to a private school on a scholarship and there were plenty of people there that did it, as well as people in my university who will spend an afternoon a week volunteering and think that they know what poverty is and that it's noble and beautiful and on and on ugh.
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But… I don't watch movies or read many books, let alone fiction. And what made you think I long for poverty? …There are people completely removed from society who built their own house on their own land and grow their own food, raising their own livestock. I don't understand the notion that everyone is forced to be a part of society to begin with. :X
 
Alex said:
But… I don't watch movies or read many books, let alone fiction. And what made you think I long for poverty? …There are people completely removed from society who built their own house on their own land and grow their own food, raising their own livestock. I don't understand the notion that everyone is forced to be a part of society to begin with. :X
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Poverty is the state of not having money. Penniless = poverty.

I doubt anyone who spends a lot of time on the internet are removed from technology and would be happy giving all our communication abilities up, and technology is built and maintained by society - will you spend all your time in solitude, giving up your lovers and friends online? Or will your rely on society to hook you up with internet? If you rely on society, you have to pay them - how will you do so?

It's technically possible, but somehow I think in a few years you're not going to be setting out on your own and living without modern human society, lol.
 
Oryx said:
Poverty is the state of not having money. Penniless = poverty.

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Within a structured society, that's true; if someone is removed from society you don't have the concept of poverty at all. What I was getting at was being happy without, i.e. not worrying about what others have or what you want or envy. Basically I think it's noble to be unconcerned with materialism and instead with what's on the inside, ergo emotion and feeling as opposed to how much money you can make to buy whatever luxury you want, that you covet because other people do/have it. :/
 
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