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Question: Is Treehouse meant to be a mess?

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I really like the laid back approach it has now, but I feel like most of the conversations have become really stupid or start off really well and then descend into stupidity, which most people respond by claiming that people here are crazy or madness or something when to me that's not what I see at all. I just see really stupid posts.

I'm hoping that goes away as more people become comfortable with the fact that anything is okay for the most part in that forum now. Which is something I greatly approve of. I just don't like the quality of the threads. I don't think it has to be 100% intelligent and serious, but I hope people who are actually reading this post know what I mean.

On another note, you guys were looking at how to make the Roundtable more active. Maybe this will help with that. I know I sort of want to spend more time in the Roundtable forum now with the forum at its current state. It's still my favorite forum on PC, though.
 
I'm honestly really put off by all the thread titles about breasts and butts. It doesn't look very inviting to me as a woman, personally, and I imagine it's a bit daunting to newer members. They might assume that's how Treehouse always is and that's definitely not true, but first impressions and such. A lot of the threads are just straight spam threads (I think almost all the breast/butt ones) and while I get that we're going for a more laid back feel in there, there's a line to it and I think it's been crossed.
 
Noah Ridgewood said:
On another note, you guys were looking at how to make the Roundtable more active. Maybe this will help with that. I know I sort of want to spend more time in the Roundtable forum now with the forum at its current state. It's still my favorite forum on PC, though.
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Over my dead body will Round Table resemble anything close to Treehouse right now.
 
Alli said:
I'm honestly really put off by all the thread titles about breasts and butts. It doesn't look very inviting to me as a woman, personally, and I imagine it's a bit daunting to newer members. A lot of the threads are just straight spam threads and while I get that we're going for a more laid back feel in there, there's a line to it and I think it's been crossed.
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Totally get what you're saying. I think it's a good thing that people are talking about things that interest them, and I'm all in favor of more discussions on sexuality, but nearly every single thread on the first page is related to butts or boobs, and none of them contain any kind of actual discussion. And I see what you mean from a woman's perspective because some of it seems to be objectification.

There's just a tremendous lack of quality in that forum now. If what Audy said was right and this is how it's meant to be, then I'm going to be severely disappointed. You can discuss these things and make jokes about them without sounding like 10 year olds and labeling it as "madness" and having a "lol aren't we all so crazy?" attitude about it. No, it's stupidity. Most of the threads there are just stupid now. And the ones that aren't turn to it pretty fucking fast.

God said:
Over my dead body will Round Table resemble anything close to Treehouse right now.
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That is not what I was saying. I was saying that the Treehouse turns me to want to go to the Round Table forum because of the lack of quality in the Treehouse now.
 
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flight said:
My personal vision for Treehouse is just a laidback forum where you have casual conversations and chats and get alone with just about anyone. Yeah, shitposting is going to be a lot more common in TT than it is in Round Table, but I think there's still kind of a time and a place for it and excessive shitposting is really going to be frowned upon and it's just going to grow stale rather quickly.

I don't mind the general direction of where Treehouse is going as far as leniency, but I'm going to be fairly frank and say a lot of the regs are pretty pushing it. Make interesting, conversational threads with some shitposting here and there, because it's there to get to know your fellow members, not blatantly spam for no reason.

I hope this made sense. ^^
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That's my problem with the forum right now. Every thread has turned into - or has turned into - a ton of shit posts where no discussion is actually being made. It's like a bunch of hoodlum teenagers shooting the shit at a garbage can acting all sorts of ways in not a very dignified or respectable fashion whatsoever. That's the only way I can really describe it.

When a thread pops up that has any sort of potential quality discussion, a few people come in and start making "jokes" (I use that extremely loosely, most of them aren't very funny) and take away any sort of potential it has. And then people have to actually work at bringing it onto topic. I think there's a difference between having a casual discussion and what most of the threads turn into. And then there are the ones that are entirely shitposts.

The threads there are intended to be conversational oriented. Yeah, there's going to be jokes, and there's going to be some sense of off topic-ness based around the original topic of the thread. But when entire threads contain these things and staff seem to be in support of them and not seem to be reigning any of them in, then that is a growing concern for me as someone whose main forum has been that forum for years.

I'm also pretty annoyed at the fact that people seem to be okay with this sort of discussion overflowing the forum. Both from a staff perspective, and from a member perspective. Because, like I said, a lot of them coin it as madness and people being crazy when in reality it just comes across as stupidity. You can have loose conversations and not descend into what 90% of the first page of threads have turned into.

Is this the direction that the forum is going in? I didn't see anything wrong with it entirely of what it was before. It was a lounging forum where we went to talk about things and we all stayed on topic and didn't get carried away or descend into little children who giggle when someone makes a fart joke.
 
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I feel like the main issue is we opened up the gates to the new forum way too quickly without giving a little detail about the changes we were hoping to achieve which allowed and somewhat encouraged users to go as crazy as possible leading to many low quality threads that, while are fun to an extent, were made silly and immediately ruined with no discussion whatsoever. This isn't the direction that we are going to let the forum go and is mostly people just testing the waters to see exactly what they can or can't get away with. We are working on a new event for the Treehouse to better explain and kick start what we are actually trying to achieve which is a more relaxed environment that encourages more member interaction throughout the individual threads as opposed to posting and going or only conversing in the DCC. I love the Treehouse and I don't want it to turn into a forum like Smogon's Firebot(which is a fine forum but not what we are going for). The boobs, butts, and alike threads are not going to define what the forum is now or what it's going to be.
 
For what it's worth, h-staff and the mods are taking care of threads that go over a big line. Two such threads were closed last night that went beyond the others. I'm sure things will calm down a bit. Sometimes we've gone wild in the Treehouse, but it tempers out after awhile. The mods are trying new things (as is their ability as the mods of the area), but nothing says this is permanent or planned. Momentary zaniness.
 
everyone has a different vision for The Treehouse and it doesn't help when everyone is trying to micromanage, so I suggest that it's left up to the current moderation staff to decide what direction in which it goes. this is not a potshot at anyone involved in this discussion or anything said in the past, but a general statement to everyone that wants to give their two cents, because eventually we'll have too many pennies to keep track of. just enjoy the forum as it is, and if you don't, try something else - PC has loads to offer.
 
CarcharOdin said:
This thread has taught me which members here just plain hate fun.


What, you mean more fun?

With you around, I don't know how that's possible.
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Yes. That must be what these concerns mean. That we hate fun.

We can pack up now, kids. CarcharOdin figured it out. We did it.
 
Honestly, the silliness that occurred yesterday was really just a bunch of members having some fun out of what I can guess is sheer boredom. I'll admit, I had a blast, but it's run it's course.
 
Pretty much echoing Klippy in that this is definitely just going to be a momentary thing that has come with the transition. There are definitely some users that are taking things too far but I'm confident that the mods of the section and the higher staff are capable of handling anyone who crosses boundaries.

Give it a few days and this should all have calmed down and a fantastic new era for the treehouse should come with that calm.
 
The amount of puns thrown around yesterday the likes of which the world had not seen since the english dub of Samurai Pizza Cats brought warm feelings to my heart.
 
Chase said:
I feel like the main issue is we opened up the gates to the new forum way too quickly without giving a little detail about the changes we were hoping to achieve which allowed and somewhat encouraged users to go as crazy as possible leading to many low quality threads that, while are fun to an extent, were made silly and immediately ruined with no discussion whatsoever. This isn't the direction that we are going to let the forum go and is mostly people just testing the waters to see exactly what they can or can't get away with. We are working on a new event for the Treehouse to better explain and kick start what we are actually trying to achieve which is a more relaxed environment that encourages more member interaction throughout the individual threads as opposed to posting and going or only conversing in the DCC. I love the Treehouse and I don't want it to turn into a forum like Smogon's Firebot(which is a fine forum but not what we are going for). The boobs, butts, and alike threads are not going to define what the forum is now or what it's going to be.
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But before those threads came around, the forum was already on its way to becoming that. I don't think at all that those threads are what sparked those happenings. The fact that we had administrators and moderators making threads with somewhat of a vague purpose had a hand in it. But what I am confused about now is that, the forum was already a laid back atmosphere. It had a purpose of what kind of discussions it would house: casual ones, with minor significance on the world. Those threads went to the Roundtable.

I just don't understand, before all this, what it was that was wrong with the forum. Particularly post its re-branding. Because right now I can't identify its purpose or what some of the staff (this doesn't seem to be a universal thing that's agreed upon) are trying to accomplish. The forum was already casual and laid back. We had people who post and go'd from time to time, but we had just as many people come back to threads to engage in discussions.
 
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I just don't understand, before all this, what it was that was wrong with the forum. Particularly post its re-branding. Because right now I can't identify its purpose or what some of the staff (this doesn't seem to be a universal thing that's agreed upon) are trying to accomplish. The forum was already casual and laid back. We had people who post and go'd from time to time, but we had just as many people come back to threads to engage in discussions.
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I see what you are saying, and you are right. However it seemed like people were returning to threads less and less to re-engage in discussions and just forgetting about the threads after posting once. Not everyone was doing this of course but the majority of the regulars were. Us moderators are partially to blame by not always leading by example but we are working on that as well. Another issue as I said earlier was too much emphasis was being placed on the DCC. It felt like that was the only place to go and have a proper discussion while neglecting the endless possibilities that were the other threads. Unstickying the DCC and taking it off of it's pedestal was another step we took in order to change that.

So in short, nothing was wrong with the forum but we're looking for ways to make it better and get back on track as to what the purpose of the Treehouse was if that makes sense.
 
If you're looking for a lengthy, faux-deep discussion on topics that have a significance in the world, go the Round Table. You'll certainly find no shortage of people who get off on posting long-winded bogus opinions on how America the world should work.

The Treehouse I think is more about the discussion of everyday things that are ultimately more mundane, so there's no need to constantly Google something to try and prove your point to someone who will most likely not give a shit about your opinion anyway; which automatically makes the Treehouse less hostile and prevents sharp increases in blood pressure as far as I'm concerned. There's more room for humor and general tomfoolery.
 
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