Mafia Madness: Sight [Game Over]

Wicked3DS said:
It seems like a very elaborate plan after just two days of information. We need more investigations to be done. However, it's not like we have a choice in the matter either, since we're not allowed to just no vote and do research apparently...
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The plan is supposed to help everyone narrow down and figure out what type of seer they could be (as long as they checked jd last night, anyway). I feel like it's a plan that ultimately benefits town. Do you find the plan scummy? Do you think Jade is scum who faked an elaborate plan on D1 just to get jd mislynched today?
Nimsy said:
[kill] ash
I'd rather go for an inactive.
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So you're just not going to answer my question?
 
I think JaDe is making an elaborate plan to lead the town to investigate then lynch innocents.
And he would continue to lead the charge/ influence people to keep going for those that are town until he is lynched, to keep his fellow mafia safe for an extended amount of time.

That's what I would do anyway.
As for an alternate lynch target; I obviously gave one, kill the inactive instead.
 
Nimsy said:
I think JaDe is making an elaborate plan to lead the town to investigate then lynch innocents.
And he would continue to lead the charge/ influence people to keep going for those that are town until he is lynched, to keep his fellow mafia safe for an extended amount of time.

That's what I would do anyway.
As for an alternate lynch target; I obviously gave one, kill the inactive instead.
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I think this would only apply if JaDe continued to do it after today. He also hasn't suggested a target for everyone to investigate tonight. If he had, your theory would probably hold a little more weight, but I don't see him doing anything right now that looks like setting someone up.

So here's another question then: Do you think lynching jd is not an effective way to figure out everyone's sanity?

Also, I'm not going along with the lynch-the-inactive-that's-about-to-be-killed/replaced-anyway bullshit, like do I need to point you to the dumb Yukari lynch in Code Geass or what?
 
[Kill] Jdthebud

Sorry jd. I'm OK with plan of jade.

Last time its Bard who said to lynch mana because two person looked into soul of Mana. Either Bard is inno or he is Mafia who with his two buddies pre-planned all the thing and lynch Mana. This time his other bud jade is helping him to lynch another inno. I really don't know. I'm just lynching another one based on jade plan last time.
 
Superjolt said:
So here's another question then: Do you think lynching jd is not an effective way to figure out everyone's sanity?
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He was basically confirmed innocent so we don't need to lynch him to determine our sanity, since it was given to us in the phase post.

Inb4 "but we dun knoooo who klippy dun invarstigated even tho we all agreed to investigate jddddd."
 
Nimsy said:
He was basically confirmed innocent so we don't need to lynch him to determine our sanity, since it was given to us in the phase post.

Inb4 "but we dun knoooo who klippy dun invarstigated even tho we all agreed to investigate jddddd."
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If Klippy had stated outright that he'd check jd then I would say you're right, but this post from Klippy kind of suggests otherwise, and that's why I'm hesitant about this

If you weren't voting for jd or an inactive, who would you be voting?
 
As pointed out several times, it was not given that jd was inno in the phase post.

(thank you to all that are standing up for me and the only plan that's been proposed) Nimsy, if you don't think this is the way that we should be moving forward, please propose something else that will help the town find the mafia beyond "kill the inactive". (inb4 "dur hurr, butt dey gon be remooved n-e-wayz")

However, as you 2 have stated, for this plan to work we do need to target another person tonight to lynch tomorrow (as I've said before, minimum 3 comparisons are needed to be confident in your sanity). If it seriously seems like a scum plan to discover everyone's sanity as fast as possible, then I'll volunteer myself as the second sacrifice in this plan. But when I flip inno on my death, I'm heavy fos on Nimsy.
 
aw, looks like I'm going down. Had to happen eventually, I've been good at avoiding early deaths recently.

So, I investigated Kaneki!!! last night and got Mafia. That along with my mafia result on Superjolt N0 makes me Insane, Paranoid, or Confused, but I read both those guys as town (moreso Superjolt, Kaneki only slightly), so I feel like it's more likely I'm insane or paranoid. Hopefully that helps some others narrow it down.
 
I'm literally offering to die so that the town can find out their sanity more quickly... How are you getting a scum read from me???

Nimsy, you are avoiding all of my questions that are directed at you and giving vague non-answers. If you really are town, then please explain a better way for us to determine our sanity. Or a better strategy overall for the town to win. If we all know our sanity, then we can make more informed decisions from what our investigations reveal. As it stands, our investigations mean absolutely nothing if we don't know our sanity.

Assuming the rest of the town is wise enough to see the validity of my plan, I WANT TO ANNOUNCE TO EVERYONE TO INVESTIGATE MYSELF TONIGHT. I'm willing to sacrifice myself to help the town learn their true roles.

Also, Naku, how does this plan not help you out? There's literally only Maf and Seers, so how does this plan to determine sanity not benefit you?
 
El Héroe Oscuro said:
Not going to lie, I'm that guy who is still confused on how some roles work (lol) so I'm just jumping on the kill train (choo choo)
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I don't see what there is to be confused about in this game, the only roles in this game are cops (seers) with different sanities and vanilla mafia.

Sanities work like this:
True - Results always correct
Naive - Results always come up inno
Paranoid - Results always come up mafia
Insane - Results always opposite (mafia come up as inno and inno come up as mafia)
Confused - Results are random

No one knows which sanity they are, which is what we're trying to figure out. Make sense?
jdthebud said:
aw, looks like I'm going down. Had to happen eventually, I've been good at avoiding early deaths recently.

So, I investigated Kaneki!!! last night and got Mafia. That along with my mafia result on Superjolt N0 makes me Insane, Paranoid, or Confused, but I read both those guys as town (moreso Superjolt, Kaneki only slightly), so I feel like it's more likely I'm insane or paranoid. Hopefully that helps some others narrow it down.
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If you get a chance before day ends, would you be able to give opinions on Nimsy and Wicked and maybe Bard? Any other last minute thoughts on anyone would be appreciated
JaDe.X105 said:
If it seriously seems like a scum plan to discover everyone's sanity as fast as possible, then I'll volunteer myself as the second sacrifice in this plan. But when I flip inno on my death, I'm heavy fos on Nimsy.
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Yeah, scum wouldn't do this^
Nimsy said:
If I wasn't voting ash, I would be voting wicked or JaDe.
I have a scum read on both of them.
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Elaborate on Wicked? I mean I wasn't totally satisfied with his response further up on this page, but Wicked sounds more like confused town.

Actually, this doesn't make sense. Wicked seems to be suspicious of JaDe just like you, yet you're scum reading him?

The other thing that doesn't make sense - you have scum reads on Wicked and JaDe, yet you're picking at low-hanging fruit by going for inactive-Ash. By your logic, jd is practically 100% conftown being pushed by JaDe (who you're scum reading) who you believe to be setting up the lynch on jd, which should make JaDe VERY LIKELY to be mafia from your perspective, yet you're not voting for him or trying to get people to lynch him. Instead you're going after an inactive (and from your perspective, JaDe should also have a much higher chance of flipping scum than Ash), not to mention you're barely making a push on Ash anyway. This makes your reads look fake.
 
It's only D2, I've been known to be wrong with my scum reads so of course I'm not acting like they're definitive. People can vote for whoever they want, I'm not wasting time and energy trying to make them see my side of things.

Wicked's speech patterns have been off, although I could just be imagining things and JaDe might not be mafia due to his whole martyr thing, but that might be him trying to confuse me.
 
JaDe.X105 said:
Also, Naku, how does this plan not help you out? There's literally only Maf and Seers, so how does this plan to determine sanity not benefit you?
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I said earlier that I wasn't here for the night phase and so didn't investigate anyone. I was in NYC at the time, hence the Until Dawn hiatus as well.
 
Nimsy said:
It's only D2, I've been known to be wrong with my scum reads so of course I'm not acting like they're definitive. People can vote for whoever they want, I'm not wasting time and energy trying to make them see my side of things.

Wicked's speech patterns have been off, although I could just be imagining things and JaDe might not be mafia due to his whole martyr thing, but that might be him trying to confuse me.
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I feel like this response is kind of BS, you can't act confident and then back down later with "oh but I'm not actually confident because I've been wrong before so my reads aren't actually definitive"

Because these posts look pretty confindent imo
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And also, I remember you being much more transparent and steadfast with your stances in previous games, but I'm not seeing that here. I agree with what JaDe said about you giving "vague non-answers" because this response still doesn't explain much of anything and especially not why you're choosing to go after Ash over other viable scum reads. If you're town, you should know that you should push for your scum reads even if you're not totally confident, and if you're wrong then you're wrong, nobody is going to develop perfect reads.

I'm trying really hard not to fall victim to confbias here but you're not making things easy. I'm not a mind-reader so how am I supposed to understand your thought process if you won't explain it? (The fact that most people are sitting on the sidelines and not offering their own input also isn't helping, if they're sitting back because they think this discussion is still about JaDe and his plan, they're wrong because the discussion is moving beyond that)
Nimsy said:
People can vote for whoever they want, I'm not wasting time and energy trying to make them see my side of things.
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If you really are town then this sentiment is just lazy, and town can't afford to be lazy. Isn't trying to get others to understand what you see part of the game (and something you would especially want to do if you're town?)
 
ugh, 'kay.
Let's lynch JaDe next phase, and then we can go for wicked.
DO IT, DO IT, DO IT, I'M PUSHING FOR THEEEEEEEE LYNCHES OF THESE TWO.
GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO.
WHY? I HAVE A FEEEEEEEELING, THAT'S WHY!
If I'm wrong don't hold it against me.
 
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"What's the plan?"

"Didn't we have a plan?"

"Yes, but why don't we try something completely different? Did everyone even stick to the plan last night anyway?"

Of course not, not at all. However, on one part people definitely stuck to the plan: their target for the day hasn't changed.

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Ullion as a Seer
Mana as a Seer
Klippy as a Seer
jdthebud as a Seer
aeternum as ???
Absol used Bite! as ???
GreyBidoof as ???
JaDe.X105 as ???
Bardothren as ???
Kaneki!!! as ???
Superjolt as ???
NightKrow as ???
Nimsy as ???
Nakuzami as ???
Davepetasprite^2 as ???
Ash as ???
Wicked3DS as ???
gimmepie as ???
El Héroe Oscuro as ???
Desinishon as ???
 
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