Mafia Madness: Sight [Game Over]

[gimmepie]

I need answers from y'all

If you had no other choice and had to list 5 suspicions and/or guess the 5 player scum team right now who would you list?

still working on the big post btw, it's gonna have to wait until later tho

EDIT: extending question to Alex and Wicked too.

I couldn't put it to give but my reads at the moment would probably be Gunner, you and GreyDoof. You're pushing everyone else so hard makes you look sketchy but the other two doing nothing makes them look Sketchy.

Who knows though, my reads have been totally off this game.

 

[Wicked3DS]

I'm confused. I'm not giving you anymore answers.

Now please respect my wishes and leave me alone.

 

[Superjolt]

I couldn't put it to give but my reads at the moment would probably be Gunner, you and GreyDoof. You're pushing everyone else so hard makes you look sketchy but the other two doing nothing makes them look Sketchy.

Who knows though, my reads have been totally off this game.

How am I pushing against everyone? Because I'm asking questions to help get better reads on people? Interesting reads tho

I'm confused. I'm not giving you anymore answers.

Now please respect my wishes and leave me alone.

This isn't about your investigation results, if that's what you thought. Don't care about your results atm, only asking who else you think is mafia

 

[Alex Kaz]

Well, my biggest fos atm is on doof, simply because he has been so silent and cryptic, and then el hero, for that same reason, but to a smaller degree. I am also getting some weird vibes from Abby. I don't know why, but her posts feel a bit off. Wicked is acting strange also, but his early fight with Nimsy make me think he is not maf.

 

[Superjolt]

Well, my biggest fos atm is on doof, simply because he has been so silent and cryptic, and then el hero, for that same reason, but to a smaller degree. I am also getting some weird vibes from Abby. I don't know why, but her posts feel a bit off. Wicked is acting strange also, but his early fight with Nimsy make me think he is not maf.

Interesting. I think I have a good idea of who the scum team is now. I'll explain later in my large post, when I'm back at a computer

Still want to hear answers to my question tho for anyone who hasn't answered yet

EDIT: Also just want to point out that people seem to be forgetting a certain result that aeternum got - he got it two nights in a row, actually

 

[Lycanthropy]

This is getting interesting... I don't really feel like updating already when Superjolt hasn't put up his "upcoming big post" yet, so I'm going to extent this day for a bit... would 14 hours be enough?
And if you haven't voted already, now isn't a bad time to do so. Yes, I'm looking at you: El Héroe Oscuro, GreyBidoof and Superjolt.
A bold name means you're going to have to vote today or else suffer a replacement.

 

[NightKrow]

Since Superjolt is going to find me and stab me if I don't do this, I'd better list who I'm slightly suspicious of after reading back over the thread a little. Probably don't take these reads seriously - I'm still not entirely sure about them and I haven't got around to spreadsheeting yet - tbh I probably won't have time until Monday evening.

Nimsy - for opposing the plan JaDe set up
Maybe GP - for backing Nimsy
El Heroé - his posts early on seem like he's not trying to find out what kind of seer he is like the rest of us. Idk if he's tried to do this at all more recently because I didn't read through the whole thread - ain't nobody got time for that rn.
Wicked - There was a reason for this but I've just forgotten what it was.
Maybe Abby - "weird vibes," nothing more atm. It's probably nothing.

Of course, this is all assuming that you aren't maf, Superjolt. I don't think it's likely as you've been pushing pretty much everyone equally and that's how you like to roll. The rest of us can't forget that it's still possible though.

 

[El Héroe Oscuro]

Since Superjolt is going to find me and stab me if I don't do this, I'd better list who I'm slightly suspicious of after reading back over the thread a little. Probably don't take these reads seriously - I'm still not entirely sure about them and I haven't got around to spreadsheeting yet - tbh I probably won't have time until Monday evening.

Nimsy - for opposing the plan JaDe set up
Maybe GP - for backing Nimsy
El Heroé - his posts early on seem like he's not trying to find out what kind of seer he is like the rest of us. Idk if he's tried to do this at all more recently because I didn't read through the whole thread - ain't nobody got time for that rn.
Wicked - There was a reason for this but I've just forgotten what it was.
Maybe Abby - "weird vibes," nothing more atm. It's probably nothing.

Of course, this is all assuming that you aren't maf, Superjolt. I don't think it's likely as you've been pushing pretty much everyone equally and that's how you like to roll. The rest of us can't forget that it's still possible though.

I investigated gimmepie last night and I got innocent. I got Klippy as Mafia so I'm pretty sure my seer role is drunk as fuck lol.

As for the voting [Kill] Nimsy b/c I don't have much more to add based on what people have already stated prior.

 

[Salzorrah]

I need answers from y'all

If you had no other choice and had to list 5 suspicions and/or guess the 5 player scum team right now who would you list?

still working on the big post btw, it's gonna have to wait until later tho

EDIT: extending question to Alex and Wicked too.

Sooo here's is my list, but before that I'll try to scumread everyone, then I'll go ahead and give my list.

Abby - As I said before, I can feel a suss vibe going on with her, can't really explain further than that.
GreyDoof - The thing with him is that he kept bsing us with his investigation results, so he's probably maf, or really really inno.
Bard - After the Desi frame up, I don't really think he's maf, I can sense a town read on him tho.
Superjolt - I've mostly felt a town vibe in you, but then again the aggressiveness you show seems suss as fuck, BUT THEN AGAIN, thats what you always do, so you probably are inno.
NightKrow - Mostly felt a town vibe on him, but then he feels totally off for some reason. He's either good at hiding as maf, or is making himself too sussy even though he's inno, if thats even possible.
Nimsy - Totally maf, no doubt about it.
Alex - He seems to be town, atleast for me.
Wicked - Maybe town, considering #Wimsy but idk he's getting a town read from me tho
GP - 85% he's maf.
Matt (El Heroe) - 96% sure he's inno. If he was maf, he should have atleast given a complete list, instead of saying that he forgot to do his NA. Besides, it's MYLO, so he should be active around this time.

The scum team I'm picking up, from surest to unsure, is Nimsy, GP, Abby, GreyDoof, and NightKrow.

 

[Superjolt]

Since Superjolt is going to find me and stab me if I don't do this, I'd better list who I'm slightly suspicious of after reading back over the thread a little. Probably don't take these reads seriously - I'm still not entirely sure about them and I haven't got around to spreadsheeting yet - tbh I probably won't have time until Monday evening.

I never had it out for you or anything, I'm town reading you xD (I'm a nice Bisharp, I promise! :( ) Just wanted a list from you on the off chance I was wrong about you, but I like your reads

I investigated gimmepie last night and I got innocent. I got Klippy as Mafia so I'm pretty sure my seer role is drunk as **** lol.

As for the voting [Kill] Nimsy b/c I don't have much more to add based on what people have already stated prior.

Nice! This makes you insane then since GP is pretty much scum

Sooo here's is my list, but before that I'll try to scumread everyone, then I'll go ahead and give my list.

Spoiler:

Abby - As I said before, I can feel a suss vibe going on with her, can't really explain further than that.
GreyDoof - The thing with him is that he kept bsing us with his investigation results, so he's probably maf, or really really inno.
Bard - After the Desi frame up, I don't really think he's maf, I can sense a town read on him tho.
Superjolt - I've mostly felt a town vibe in you, but then again the aggressiveness you show seems suss as ****, BUT THEN AGAIN, thats what you always do, so you probably are inno.
NightKrow - Mostly felt a town vibe on him, but then he feels totally off for some reason. He's either good at hiding as maf, or is making himself too sussy even though he's inno, if thats even possible.
Nimsy - Totally maf, no doubt about it.
Alex - He seems to be town, atleast for me.
Wicked - Maybe town, considering #Wimsy but idk he's getting a town read from me tho
GP - 85% he's maf.
Matt (El Heroe) - 96% sure he's inno. If he was maf, he should have atleast given a complete list, instead of saying that he forgot to do his NA. Besides, it's MYLO, so he should be active around this time.

The scum team I'm picking up, from surest to unsure, is Nimsy, GP, Abby, GreyDoof, and NightKrow.

...wow we have really similar thoughts then! I think you're spot on, except for Nightkrow (which you'll see when I explain in my next post)

EDIT: [Kill] Nimsy

(also sorry in advance for double posting - I want the next post to be separate so I'll probably end up double posting unless someone else posts in between)

 

[Wicked3DS]

This isn't about your investigation results, if that's what you thought. Don't care about your results atm, only asking who else you think is mafia

Oops, sorry about that! Either GB or Pie, they definitely stand out to me. GB has some explaining to do for sure.

 

[Superjolt]

*BIG POST TIME*
Ok, here we go!

Who I think is clear or NOT likely to be mafia:
- Wicked (b/c of him vs Nimsy, obviously), Gunner, Nightkrow, Bard, El Héroe

Who I think the scum team is:
I'm almost positive the scum team is Nimsy-Gimmepie-Alex-Abby-GreyBidoof

Now to explain...

Gonna start with the scum team (skipping Nimsy because lol)

Gimmepie:
Pretty self-explanatory. aeternum is pretty likely to be true and got a mafia result on him TWICE. Not to mention his push on a BS connection between Kaneki, Bard, aeternum and Wicked. He also sort of kept a distance from Nimsy and never committed to a full read on her.

Alex (replaced Ash):
So, Alex doesn't really look scummy... he actually looks kind of town. HOWEVER, with JaDe's result on Ash and JaDe having such a high chance of being insane, Alex is pretty much scum too, because among JaDe, Desi, Nightkrow, Wicked, GB... they can't all be confused (and if JaDe is confused, then that means there are TWO people lying among the ones who claimed confused). This also means that Nimsy was bussing Ash on D2, but for Nimsy in that situation, it would have a benefit either way because: if Ash got lynched somehow while she was inactive, then woohoo! Nimsy would earn all that town-cred for lynching mafia! But since Nimsy didn't make a strong push to lynch Ash, it didn't matter because her teammate was unlikely to be lynched anyway.

Abby:
Oof... Abby's a little harder to explain beyond general bad vibes. First thing I made note of though was her vote for Bard on D3, she avoids both main wagons (JaDe, Nimsy). She votes for Bard (she claims it was a "throwaway vote") at a time when there could have been a decent chance of Bard getting lynched because of Desi's results (and could have been an easy mislynch if Bard is town and things had turned that way) (and also what benefit would town get from making a "throwaway vote" anyway?). She never takes a stance on Nimsy vs Wicked, and I think the first time she actually mentions either of them is on D4... She also said she was sus of Desi on D3, but if she really thought she might have any chance of being true and if she thought Desi had a chance of being mafia, why check Wicked instead of Desi on N3? Also her list of suspicions from today don't make much sense, and she happened to forget aeternum's results on GP apparently.

GreyBidoof:
I don't have much to say about GB because there isn't much to talk about. His refusal to share his results to prove his claim of being confused doesn't make any sense. GB kind of always plays like this, but I get the feeling that town!GB would actually share his results and try to help town somewhat (because I think there's a very slight, but noticeable difference between GB's town play and GB's scum play). His reasons for voting Wicked on D3 don't make sense either. I think Nimsy voting GB at this point looks like a last ditch effort to keep us off his trail.
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Now why I think my town reads are town, starting with Gunner...

Gunner:
- She's been pretty quiet, but really hasn't done anything that looks scummy
- I would think mafia would be more likely to go along with saying they checked JaDe N2 because it's easier (but Gunner didn't so that's a plus for her)
- Also Gunner could have gone with the easy JaDe mislynch on D3 but voted Nimsy instead (which if Gunner was bussing Nimsy, it doesn't make sense because Gunner's vote put Nimsy one step closer to being the leading wagon, plus her vote is consistent with her suspicion)

Bard:
- Bard's in the same boat as Gunner pretty much, because he also voted for Nimsy on D3 and is probably not scum for that same reason ^
- Also with Nimsy and GP both pretty much scum and lying about being paranoid, it makes Bard pretty likely to be paranoid then
- And also, my scum reads have Bard among their scum reads or have tried to push Bard as scum (like GP) --> this one could also apply to Gunner

Nightkrow:
- Her posts in general just read as genuine to me
- Really hasn't done anything that looks scummy
- She has that air of paranoia toward Desi's results on D3 that I would expect from a townie, her N3 check on Desi looks slightly convenient at first but the check lines up with her thoughts from D3

El Héroe:
- El admitted to forgetting to send his night actions, if he was scum I would expect him to just give out fake results like the rest of his team
- He also just seems genuinely confused/not invested in the game as opposed to scum trying to be distracting

Wicked:
- Obviously can't see him as scum just because of him vs Nimsy
- Also, GP tried to push him as part of his BS "connection" and GB voted him on D3

So here's how I think we should proceed:
- lynch Nimsy today (Day 5)
- GP Day 6
- Abby and/or GB after that
- I'd lynch Alex last

PLEASE NOTE: These are my reads, don't take this as 100% the definite scum team or anything, because like I said no one is ever perfect with their reads, HOWEVER I do feel very very confident about these reads.

If you're town and you're unsure or have doubts, ask each other questions to help figure things out!

It will still be LYLO tomorrow (6 vs 5 today, 5 vs 4 tomorrow...)

Other notes:

Sanities update:

Spoiler:

- El Héroe = insane
- Because of Abby and Alex, Mana was probably Naive (or true)
Among Naku/Klippy/Ullion:
- It's probably 1 paranoid/1 insane/1 true or naive (depending on what Mana was)
OR
If jd was insane:
- then 2 paranoid/1 true or naive

 

[gimmepie]

Well I can't deny your logic but you're totally wrong on me lmao
I guess you'll see though.
gg maf, gg

 

[Alex Kaz]

You say that you consider Gunner and Bard clear because they voted Nimsy day 3, but you seem to forget who was opposed to lynching Jade and voted her first and started this small bw.

Also, while it's good to talk it out and share thoughts, we already had a clear target for today, and we didn't need to say too much, so that mafia wouldn't be able to take advantage of the extra info. Our goal was to protect the one useful seer we have left. I even said I fosed him, but you just had to go and say he is insane.
This game does not have a doctor or stats, you get killed straight away.

 

[Lycanthropy]

...and that's it, day phase ends here. Night post upcoming!

 

[Lycanthropy]

After this lynch, half of the town's population will be down. According to the popular theories, today might be determining for their victory; their survival. The people prayed to all the gods they knew for a positive ending of the day.

...apparently, that worked. Yay!

It's night, please PM me your night actions. Night phase will last for ~24 hours.

-Logically all PokéCommunity and Underground rules apply.
-Everybody has one vote during day phases. Please format your votes as "[KILL] <player>" or something similar to make my life easier.
-You are allowed to switch your votes if you feel like.
-Abstaining from voting is not allowed, missing two days in a row will result in being removed from the game.
-All game related discussion must be kept in this thread, unless your role gives you a private chat.
-Once you're eliminated you're out of the game, don't haunt the thread with posts.
-However, everyone is given one death post, as long as it doesn't contain any game-breaking information.
-Don't post during the night, it's deadly.
-Have fun! ...or salty, whatever you wish.

Ullion as a Seer
Mana as a Seer
Klippy as a Seer
jdthebud as a Seer
Nakuzami as a Seer
JaDe.X105 as a Seer
Desinishon as a Seer
aeternum as a Seer
Kaneki!!! as a Seer
Nimsy as Mafia

Absol used Bite! as ???
Ullion-2 as ???
Bardothren as ???
Superjolt as ???
NightKrow as ???
Davepetasprite^2 as ???
alexkaz61 as ???
Wicked3DS as ???
gimmepie as ???
El Héroe Oscuro as ???

This looks like that one EM setup I did that everyone hated!
I'm in!

Count me in! This sounds like it'll be craploads of fun.

yes :3

Yes please :)
Looks like there'll be some right crazy shenanigans in this game.

In

To be honest, I too noticed kaneki's claims to be a bit off. But kaneki does that in general, so it's not too much of an alert.

hi lets get it on

I'll give it a shot.

I'm in if there's room

FINALLY, I've been waiting to join a mafia game for the longest time, I've just never been able to find one before the signups closed. It'll be good to get back into this >:)

Night Actions please! :)

 

[Lycanthropy]

Ullion-2 has replaced GreyBidoof.

 

[Lycanthropy]

I got all the actions I need, so expect a quicker phase change in a minute. :)

 

[Lycanthropy]

"I got something nice prepared for tonight." one of the Mafia members said, while showing a couple of cages with aggressively looking brown rodents to the others.

"Wait, aren't those Bidoof? Why those, aren't those like utterly worthless?"

"Eh, no reason. Fun thing is though, that these little things have been injected with a serum that makes them little hellspawns. I feel sorry for the Seer we'll be releasing them on... although, not really."

It's day, feel free to discuss whatever you wish in this thread and cast your vote. Day phase will last ~48 hours.

-Logically all PokéCommunity and Underground rules apply.
-Everybody has one vote during day phases. Please format your votes as "[KILL] <player>" or something similar to make my life easier.
-You are allowed to switch your votes if you feel like.
-Abstaining from voting is not allowed, missing two days in a row will result in being removed from the game.
-All game related discussion must be kept in this thread, unless your role gives you a private chat.
-Once you're eliminated you're out of the game, don't haunt the thread with posts.
-However, everyone is given one death post, as long as it doesn't contain any game-breaking information.
-Don't post during the night, it's deadly.
-Have fun! ...or salty, whatever you wish.

Ullion as a Seer
Mana as a Seer
Klippy as a Seer
jdthebud as a Seer
Nakuzami as a Seer
JaDe.X105 as a Seer
Desinishon as a Seer
aeternum as as a Seer
Kaneki!!! as as a Seer
Nimsy as Mafia

Superjolt as a Seer
Absol used Bite! as ???
Ullion-2 as ???
Bardothren as ???
NightKrow as ???
Davepetasprite^2 as ???
alexkaz61 as ???
Wicked3DS as ???
gimmepie as ???
El Héroe Oscuro as ???

This looks like that one EM setup I did that everyone hated!
I'm in!

Count me in! This sounds like it'll be craploads of fun.

yes :3

Yes please :)
Looks like there'll be some right crazy shenanigans in this game.

To be honest, I too noticed kaneki's claims to be a bit off. But kaneki does that in general, so it's not too much of an alert.

hi lets get it on

I'll give it a shot.

I'm in if there's room

FINALLY, I've been waiting to join a mafia game for the longest time, I've just never been able to find one before the signups closed. It'll be good to get back into this >:)

Goodmorning! ^.^

 

[Abby]

So.it appears my seads on SH were off. Very well.

I must say that his reads aren't 100% perfect however. I can tell you with a wholehearted certainty that I am no malicious ender of lives.