New Prefix in BW forum

[Cello]

Only at PC can a massive debate break out over some as small as a prefix, haha. :D

I'm stuck between [B/W2] and [B&W2]. I like them both! :<

 

[Zelda]

more tldr stuff

I was away, because I was getting coke! Don't tell me I'm a liar. n___n

When I came back I was pretty much confused. I was like "Are they putting B2/W2 as a prefix and getting rid of the BW prefix, what??". That's why I stated but I want both! Then I started thinking "Wait what, what's B2W2 for?". Jake had already made it by the time I knew what in the world was going on. Which is then why I said but B/W2 is better and I'd like that instead. Honestly the whole thing could have been thought out more. :\

I just want the new prefix to be [B&W2]. Nothing wrong with changing it, especially if members are agreeing with me here.

 

[Oryx]

I was away, because I was getting coke! Don't tell me I'm a liar. n___n

When I came back I was pretty much confused. I was like "Are they putting B2/W2 as a prefix and getting rid of the BW prefix, what??". That's why I stated but I want both! Then I started thinking "Wait what, what's B2W2 for?". Jake had already made it by the time I knew what in the world was going on. Which is then why I said but B/W2 is better and I'd like that instead. Honestly the whole thing could have been thought out more. :\

I just want the new prefix to be [B&W2]. Nothing wrong with changing it, especially if members are agreeing with me here.

Except you don't have a legitimate sample of the opinion of members from a thread such as this. Post comments was a different situation because it didn't hurt the members that didn't like post comments to bring them back, they still had the ability to pretend they weren't there and such. But for the members that do like B2/W2, they lose that for B&W2 so there should be a more representative sample polled if you really want to go by member opinion. The only people that will come here will be people that are just active everywhere or people that have a problem with it. People that don't visit CQF but don't have a problem with it aren't going to come post here, why would they? Thinking posts in CQF are representative of the entire memberbase is like thinking the calls into Customer Support of a company is representative of every customer - they only call when they need help, so by that logic every single customer ever has a problem because you're only judging it based on people that have one. Haven't you noticed that some of the biggest posters in B/W, the people most affected by it, haven't posted here at all? This slice of the memberbase is far from representative of the people that visit your section.

Also: You said (direct quote) "I came back after it was pretty much decided". Except you were there. You spoke in the middle of the conversation, immediately after the conversation, 1 minute after, 2 minutes after, 3 minutes after, 4 minutes after, and then 5 minutes after when you finally decided to say something. That's a fact, look at the logs. If you're speaking once a minute, you're not away from the computer. You were there and reading.

 

[Tachikaze]

[B&W2] makes sense and looks more appealing than [B2/W2]. Not that hard.

 

[Kano Shuuya]

Honestly, [B&W2] looks the best, and yeah the games are called Black 2 and White 2, but also - everyone knows that. The prefix doesn't have to be completely perfect, because people will get the idea, and it's obvious that's two games, and they're each the second version. In threads people can separate their names B2 / W2, but for the prefix, IMO it just looks better to keep it B&W2 even if it's somewhat incorrect. People get the basic idea.

/my two cents


Edit: Also, guys, looking over this entire thread - please don't turn this into an argument.
A thread prefix isn't worth getting upset over, okay? :/
I don't want to have to close the thread.

 

[Yoshikkko]

I don't see a problem with changing it if the other BW mod and lots of other members agree with how the other option ([B&W2] or whatever if you wanna be correct) just looks better and more convenient.

It doesn't even matter in the end when or how it was decided, the point is imo that Kaori feels like she was partially left out of the decision and this is not the first time she feels like she has almost no input on what happens in the BW section, while being a mod there.

 

[Deleted member 143209]

The point is, b/w2 just looks untidy, despite the fact that people know what it is. Thus, adding what I suggested being [B&W2] is more readable, and less confusing when you're flicking through new posts or the B&W forum. Since the less numbers and symbols you have in a prefix, the better. Who cares what everyone else is doing, if the members prefer [B&W2], then do it.

 

[Oryx]

Maybe make a poll in the B/W section to see which one wins out? Then the opinions of the B/W regulars that aren't also CQF regulars could be gauged and whichever one wins, wins.

 

[Yoshikkko]

Well I agree with the poll I guess, would it be possible to like transfer this and add a poll to it then, so that members can read what was previously suggested and the arguments and all that or idk how it works lol.

 

[Sheep]

[B2/W2] isn't that appealing of a prefix imho; I'd much more prefer Abnegation's [B&W2] alternative. The combination of those double 2's and the slash make it a little rough on my eyes.

 

[Cordelia]

Well I agree with the poll I guess, would it be possible to like transfer this and add a poll to it then, so that members can read what was previously suggested and the arguments and all that or idk how it works lol.

If this is done let's crop out some posts please!

 

[kuzronk]

I think it should be a sub forum so people who just want to talk about B/W 1 can talk about them without going though pages of B2/W2 threads

 

[donavannj]

My biggest issue with a B&W2 prefix is that it may confuse people on what to Google to get info about the games, as there is already a game out there by another studio called Black & White 2: https://lionhead.com/Games/BW2/Default.aspx

That and I actually think B&W2 is a hideous and grossly inaccurate prefix that makes me think of the game I mentioned above, not of any Pokemon games.

 

[Ivysaur]

I personally prefer B2&W2 (or B2/W2 for consistency) because it's the actual name of the games and it's much easier to tell apart from B/W than B/W2 at a single glance.

My two cents.

 

[Victini]

I like B2/W2 better. ;w;

If I am scrolling by fast like I usually am, B/W2 looks just like B/W... and it creates the idea that the title for the "game" is Black & White 2...

B2/W2 specifies it's two separate games, and they both have 2 at the end...

 

[Logiedan]

Pretty sure this has been said before, but prefixes shouldn't be made to look appealing and/or tidy. The prefix should be simple and something anyone can recognize quickly, therefore i'm for [B2/W2] or [B2&W2]. Although, [B&W2] is convenient, the first two work just as well, and it helps with consistency.

 

[Kano Shuuya]

So when the games release, and people want to make a thread taking about one certain version, will there be split prefixes? [B2] [W2]?

Or will people just have to slosh through threads, and hope that one of them covers the version they're wanting?

If that's a thing.. then, it kinda makes sense to have the prefix as [B2&W2] (or / ), until that point.

Just sayin'.


I still think that B&W2 looks the best, but really, it's a prefix and it doesn't need to be a huge deal. No one's going to march off and leave PC if they dislike the way a thread prefix looks.

 

[Ho-Oh]

So when the games release, and people want to make a thread taking about one certain version, will there be split prefixes? [B2] [W2]?

Or will people just have to slosh through threads, and hope that one of them covers the version they're wanting?

If that's a thing.. then, it kinda makes sense to have the prefix as [B2&W2] (or / ), until that point.

Skipping the rest just to answer this.

Doubt anybody will be making a thread on just one version unless they majorly differ, since for Black and White and other gaming forums at the release, they've made a thread to cover both. For example, Opelucid City (they are designed differently and have different music, so purely aesthetic), Black City/White Forest (the major difference? one = you could battle trainers, other = you could catch Pokemon, same concept but different results), etc. Besides if they're -too- different, then another forum will probably be made rather than actually just having prefixes. Black and White was meant to be the game with the major differences anyway, and considering they didn't have that many, I think it's safe to say that a thread covering the specific version difference instead of the specific version would lead to a lot more discussion. And really, unless Black 2 has a completely different storyline to White 2, then I doubt there's much that could differ enough to need that.

 

[The Author]

It's a prefix. It's not like it matters if it looks ugly or whatever as long as you can tell the difference between Black and White threads and Black 2 and White 2 threads. B2/W2 is the official prefix for the games (which Jake was fine with and said people should start calling the games that), and thus we're following that.

It's Black 2 and White 2, not Black White 2, so it actually makes sense, either way.

Besides, apparently B2/W2 helps PC in Google's listings (or something along those lines, I can't remember what exactly Jake said), where B/W2 wouldn't.

Yes, I have to agree.

But, are we seriously concerned about our Google listing at this point? :P

 

[Oryx]

Yes, I have to agree.

But, are we seriously concerned about our Google listing at this point? :P

If you search "Black 2 and White 2", we don't come up. So yes, we should be worried about our Google listing in relation to these games.