FireRed hack: Pokémon: Liquid Crystal [3.3.xxxxx Live Beta]

[easyaspi314]

With updated movesetd,sprites,type charts,everything up till Gen 6?

Looks pretty good, except for anime cries. And, of course, being in Spanish.

The only one I can tolerate is Pikachu.

It looks like they also applied it on a rombase and followed the millions of tuts on PokéCommunity that don't exactly line up…

Update: His FB has some funny stuff. He puts up a bunch of sprites, but this one. I never met a pod that looked like that Metapod!

 

[Trainer 766]

Looks pretty good, except for anime cries. And, of course, being in Spanish.

The only one I can tolerate is Pikachu.

It looks like they also applied it on a rombase and followed the millions of tuts on PokéCommunity that don't exactly line up…

Update: His FB has some funny stuff. He puts up a bunch of sprites, but this one. I never met a pod that looked like that Metapod!

Can anyone get Versekr to translate his version back to English. That hack was better imo,since linkandzelda is not like active quite often.

 

[easyaspi314]

Can anyone get Versekr to translate his version back to English. That hack was better imo,since linkandzelda is not like active quite often.

Well, at that point you would need to repoint things again.

It is better off starting off from scratch. The only real thing that is important is adding the added evolutions (we DON'T need 719) and updated movesets.

Especially Fairy-types.

So now, we only have one infamous female gym leader to have nightmares about and end up overleveling far too much or making the gamebreaking mistake of using the Lv. 17 Wynaut you captured and JUSTIFY her tears.

 

[nic0]

Well, at that point you would need to repoint things again.

It is better off starting off from scratch. The only real thing that is important is adding the added evolutions (we DON'T need 719) and updated movesets.

Especially Fairy-types.

So now, we only have one infamous female gym leader to have nightmares about and end up overleveling far too much or making the gamebreaking mistake of using the Lv. 17 Wynaut you captured and JUSTIFY her tears.

I can try to do something, but I know nothing from the hack world

 

[easyaspi314]

I can try to do something, but I know nothing from the hack world

Neither do I. I know how to do a bit of A-Map, YAPE, and a few other things. I only started hacking mid August.

 

[easyaspi314]

I have posted my final (?) draft of the improved Eeveelutions.

Changes:

Spoiler:

• If my plan goes through, Bill will give Eevee to you at Level 5, Training them isn't too difficult with the level-based Exp. gain and switching out. However…
• I was disgusted at how it took longer to hatch an Eevee egg than it did to get it to Level 25 (my mains are at about 36-37). Eevee and its evolutions will level up slightly slower, at the same rate of your starter or even a Pidgey. Not too much, right? It will just make Espeon/Umbreon a bit more difficult to obtain, but there is more than one way to max out your happiness. Comments?
• Helping Hand removed. Remember that couple on Route 110 in Emerald with the two Plusle and Minun each, that pretty much just spammed Helping Hand? Useless, ESPECIALLY without any Double Battles.
• Tackle has been replaced with Quick Attack on every Eeveelution, and learned at Level 1.
• With the exception of Flareon, Eevee and its other Eeveelutions have had their movesets from XY adapted as closely as possible, using the rate that Gen 3 does (ever since B2W2, Pokémon seem to learn moves 1.5 times faster).
• With this, I will also have all move changes from later generations, except Tackle will be changed to match Pound and Scratch. Check here for a list of changed moves.
• The removal of Tackle and Helping Hand has also opened 2 additional moveslots for more moves.
• Strength and Rock Smash have been added to the original trio's learnset on the latest games, I have added them, too.

Guide:
Bold = STAB
Italic = STAB in a later evolution (Bite for Eevee)
Underline = Special move
Gray = Status move

Eevee:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Growl, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Swift
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Covet
Level 36: Take Down
Level 42: Baton Pass
Level 47: Double-Edge

Espeon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Confusion
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Swift
Level 36: Psybeam
Level 42: Future Sight
Level 47: Psych Up
Level 52: Morning Sun
Level 57: Psychic

HMs: Cut, Flash

Umbreon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Pursuit
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Confuse Ray
Level 36: Feint Attack
Level 42: Screech
Level 47: Taunt
Level 52: Moonlight
Level 57: Mean Look

HMs: Cut, Flash

Flareon:

Spoiler:

Don't cry, Flareon. Things are better now. Flareon has been redone completely.

Base stats:

• 65 HP
• 130 Attack
• 65 Defense (previously 60)
• 60 Special Attack (previously 95)
• 110 Special Defense
• 95 Speed (previously 65)

My changes are what I felt are necessary to be Flareon was supposed to be, but never was. Flareon's issues were:

• Terribly slow
• While it made a great Special wall, its pitiful Defense stat gave it a huge weakness to Rock and Ground.
• The aforementioned speed makes it so Flareon is incredibly vulnerable before it can even attack.
• Vaporeon and Umbreon shared the same slow Speed stat, but unlike Flareon, they are capable of tanking quite a few hits, Physical and Special,
• Learnset was full of great Special moves, but its Special Attack was so weak that it was a joke.
• No useful Physical Fire-type moves until Gen 6
• Awesome Physical attack stat…that is literally useless with its learnset.
• Basically meant a hell of a lot of Quick Attack spamming.
• Flareon learns Leer at Level 47. Which is ridiculous in itself, because it is OHKOing with Quick Attack…but the crazy part is it ALSO learns Tail Whip at Level 1! Gamefreak, not enough PP for ya?

My changes:

• Flareon is noticeably faster, with a significantly higher Speed stat. Espeon and Jolteon are still faster, though.
• Flareon has slightly higher Physical Defense. Not significant, but an increase is an increase.
• Flareon's Special Attack is now even more useless…
• …because it has a completely new learnset, which focuses on Physical moves (including 2 out of the 4 Fire-types, skipping Sacred Fire and Fire Punch).
• Now has good type coverage, just like Vaporeon and Jolteon.
• Flareon is now a capable Physical sweeper, comparable to Blaziken without any Special moves.
• Doesn't learn BOTH Leer and Tail Whip.

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack (see a pattern yet?).
Level 16: Ember
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Flame Wheel
Level 36: Will-O-Wisp
Level 42: Crunch
Level 47: Smog
Level 52: Blaze Kick (Sorry, Blaziken)
Level 57: Double-Edge

HMs: Strength, Rock Smash

Jolteon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack (yep, you called it).
Level 16: ThunderShock
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Double Kick
Level 36: Spark
Level 42: Pin Missile
Level 47: Agility
Level 52: Thunder Wave
Level 57: Thunder

HMs: Strength, Flash, Rock Smash

Vaporeon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Water Gun (resisting the urge to put Bubble in for the Bubble Jet Pokémon)
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Water Pulse
Level 36: Aurora Beam
Level 42: Haze
Level 47: Acid Armor
Level 52: Hydro Pump
Level 57: Dirty Surf err… Muddy Water (Sorry, Swampert)

HMs: Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Dive

Comments? If you all like it, I can post an IPS.

 

[Megax Rocker]

I have posted my final (?) draft of the improved Eeveelutions.

Changes:

Spoiler:

• If my plan goes through, Bill will give Eevee to you at Level 5, Training them isn't too difficult with the level-based Exp. gain and switching out. However…
• I was disgusted at how it took longer to hatch an Eevee egg than it did to get it to Level 25 (my mains are at about 36-37). Eevee and its evolutions will level up slightly slower, at the same rate of your starter or even a Pidgey. Not too much, right? It will just make Espeon/Umbreon a bit more difficult to obtain, but there is more than one way to max out your happiness. Comments?
• Helping Hand removed. Remember that couple on Route 110 in Emerald with the two Plusle and Minun each, that pretty much just spammed Helping Hand? Useless, ESPECIALLY without any Double Battles.
• Tackle has been replaced with Quick Attack on every Eeveelution, and learned at Level 1.
• With the exception of Flareon, Eevee and its other Eeveelutions have had their movesets from XY adapted as closely as possible, using the rate that Gen 3 does (ever since B2W2, Pokémon seem to learn moves 1.5 times faster).
• With this, I will also have all move changes from later generations, except Tackle will be changed to match Pound and Scratch. Check here for a list of changed moves.
• The removal of Tackle and Helping Hand has also opened 2 additional moveslots for more moves.
• Strength and Rock Smash have been added to the original trio's learnset on the latest games, I have added them, too.

Guide:
Bold = STAB
Italic = STAB in a later evolution (Bite for Eevee)
Underline = Special move
Gray = Status move

Eevee:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Growl, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Swift
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Covet
Level 36: Take Down
Level 42: Baton Pass
Level 47: Double-Edge

Espeon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Confusion
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Swift
Level 36: Psybeam
Level 42: Future Sight
Level 47: Psych Up
Level 52: Morning Sun
Level 57: Psychic

HMs: Cut, Flash

Umbreon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Pursuit
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Confuse Ray
Level 36: Feint Attack
Level 42: Screech
Level 47: Taunt
Level 52: Moonlight
Level 57: Mean Look

HMs: Cut, Flash

Flareon:

Spoiler:

Don't cry, Flareon. Things are better now. Flareon has been redone completely.

Base stats:

• 65 HP
• 130 Attack
• 65 Defense (previously 60)
• 60 Special Attack (previously 95)
• 110 Special Defense
• 95 Speed (previously 65)

My changes are what I felt are necessary to be Flareon was supposed to be, but never was. Flareon's issues were:

• Terribly slow
• While it made a great Special wall, its pitiful Defense stat gave it a huge weakness to Rock and Ground.
• The aforementioned speed makes it so Flareon is incredibly vulnerable before it can even attack.
• Vaporeon and Umbreon shared the same slow Speed stat, but unlike Flareon, they are capable of tanking quite a few hits, Physical and Special,
• Learnset was full of great Special moves, but its Special Attack was so weak that it was a joke.
• No useful Physical Fire-type moves until Gen 6
• Awesome Physical attack stat…that is literally useless with its learnset.
• Basically meant a hell of a lot of Quick Attack spamming.
• Flareon learns Leer at Level 47. Which is ridiculous in itself, because it is OHKOing with Quick Attack…but the crazy part is it ALSO learns Tail Whip at Level 1! Gamefreak, not enough PP for ya?

My changes:

• Flareon is noticeably faster, with a significantly higher Speed stat. Espeon and Jolteon are still faster, though.
• Flareon has slightly higher Physical Defense. Not significant, but an increase is an increase.
• Flareon's Special Attack is now even more useless…
• …because it has a completely new learnset, which focuses on Physical moves (including 2 out of the 4 Fire-types, skipping Sacred Fire and Fire Punch).
• Now has good type coverage, just like Vaporeon and Jolteon.
• Flareon is now a capable Physical sweeper, comparable to Blaziken without any Special moves.
• Doesn't learn BOTH Leer and Tail Whip.

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack (see a pattern yet?).
Level 16: Ember
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Flame Wheel
Level 36: Headbutt OR Howl Comments?
Level 42: Crunch
Level 47: Smog
Level 52: Blaze Kick (Sorry, Blaziken)
Level 57: Double-Edge

HMs: Strength, Rock Smash

Jolteon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack (yep, you called it).
Level 16: ThunderShock
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Double Kick
Level 36: Spark
Level 42: Pin Missile
Level 47: Agility
Level 52: Thunder Wave
Level 57: Thunder

HMs: Strength, Flash, Rock Smash

Vaporeon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Water Gun (resisting the urge to put Bubble in for the Bubble Jet Pokémon)
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Water Pulse
Level 36: Aurora Beam
Level 42: Haze
Level 47: Acid Armor
Level 52: Hydro Pump
Level 57: Dirty Surf err… Muddy Water (Sorry, Swampert)

HMs: Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Dive

Comments? If you all like it, I can post an IPS.

Some balancing would be much easier if the game was updated with more moves, flare blitz should be in there.

 

[easyaspi314]

Some balancing would be much easier if the game was updated with more moves, flare blitz should be in there.

Well, obviously!

Double-Edge is the same as Flare Blitz. Just without STAB or burn chance.

I was suggesting Sacred Fire at least for now because:

Sacred Fire;
Fire/Physical
5 PP
100 BP
95% accuracy
50% burn chance

Flare Blitz:
Fire/Physical
15 PP
120 BP
100% accuracy
1/3 damage recoil
10% burn chance

Remember, Flare Blitz has recoil, and Flareon doesn't have a good HP stat. GameFreak listened and gave Flareon Flare Blitz in XY. And Flareon fell from NU to PU.
But Sacred Fire is the signature move of Ho-Oh and (as of Gen 6) Entei.

But, remember that burn halves attack in most scenarios. Maybe I should give it Will-o-Wisp.

 

[Keetongu856]

It's a very good hack!If someone can translate the hack would ne awesome

Where is it playable until?

 

[Z34guy]

I have posted my final (?) draft of the improved Eeveelutions.

Changes:

Spoiler:

• If my plan goes through, Bill will give Eevee to you at Level 5, Training them isn't too difficult with the level-based Exp. gain and switching out. However…
• I was disgusted at how it took longer to hatch an Eevee egg than it did to get it to Level 25 (my mains are at about 36-37). Eevee and its evolutions will level up slightly slower, at the same rate of your starter or even a Pidgey. Not too much, right? It will just make Espeon/Umbreon a bit more difficult to obtain, but there is more than one way to max out your happiness. Comments?
• Helping Hand removed. Remember that couple on Route 110 in Emerald with the two Plusle and Minun each, that pretty much just spammed Helping Hand? Useless, ESPECIALLY without any Double Battles.
• Tackle has been replaced with Quick Attack on every Eeveelution, and learned at Level 1.
• With the exception of Flareon, Eevee and its other Eeveelutions have had their movesets from XY adapted as closely as possible, using the rate that Gen 3 does (ever since B2W2, Pokémon seem to learn moves 1.5 times faster).
• With this, I will also have all move changes from later generations, except Tackle will be changed to match Pound and Scratch. Check here for a list of changed moves.
• The removal of Tackle and Helping Hand has also opened 2 additional moveslots for more moves.
• Strength and Rock Smash have been added to the original trio's learnset on the latest games, I have added them, too.

Guide:
Bold = STAB
Italic = STAB in a later evolution (Bite for Eevee)
Underline = Special move
Gray = Status move

Eevee:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Growl, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Swift
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Covet
Level 36: Take Down
Level 42: Baton Pass
Level 47: Double-Edge

Espeon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Confusion
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Swift
Level 36: Psybeam
Level 42: Future Sight
Level 47: Psych Up
Level 52: Morning Sun
Level 57: Psychic

HMs: Cut, Flash

Umbreon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Pursuit
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Confuse Ray
Level 36: Feint Attack
Level 42: Screech
Level 47: Taunt
Level 52: Moonlight
Level 57: Mean Look

HMs: Cut, Flash

Flareon:

Spoiler:

Don't cry, Flareon. Things are better now. Flareon has been redone completely.

Base stats:

• 65 HP
• 130 Attack
• 65 Defense (previously 60)
• 60 Special Attack (previously 95)
• 110 Special Defense
• 95 Speed (previously 65)

My changes are what I felt are necessary to be Flareon was supposed to be, but never was. Flareon's issues were:

• Terribly slow
• While it made a great Special wall, its pitiful Defense stat gave it a huge weakness to Rock and Ground.
• The aforementioned speed makes it so Flareon is incredibly vulnerable before it can even attack.
• Vaporeon and Umbreon shared the same slow Speed stat, but unlike Flareon, they are capable of tanking quite a few hits, Physical and Special,
• Learnset was full of great Special moves, but its Special Attack was so weak that it was a joke.
• No useful Physical Fire-type moves until Gen 6
• Awesome Physical attack stat…that is literally useless with its learnset.
• Basically meant a hell of a lot of Quick Attack spamming.
• Flareon learns Leer at Level 47. Which is ridiculous in itself, because it is OHKOing with Quick Attack…but the crazy part is it ALSO learns Tail Whip at Level 1! Gamefreak, not enough PP for ya?

My changes:

• Flareon is noticeably faster, with a significantly higher Speed stat. Espeon and Jolteon are still faster, though.
• Flareon has slightly higher Physical Defense. Not significant, but an increase is an increase.
• Flareon's Special Attack is now even more useless…
• …because it has a completely new learnset, which focuses on Physical moves (including 2 out of the 4 Fire-types, skipping Sacred Fire and Fire Punch).
• Now has good type coverage, just like Vaporeon and Jolteon.
• Flareon is now a capable Physical sweeper, comparable to Blaziken without any Special moves.
• Doesn't learn BOTH Leer and Tail Whip.

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack (see a pattern yet?).
Level 16: Ember
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Flame Wheel
Level 36: Will-O-Wisp
Level 42: Crunch
Level 47: Smog
Level 52: Blaze Kick (Sorry, Blaziken)
Level 57: Double-Edge

HMs: Strength, Rock Smash

Jolteon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack (yep, you called it).
Level 16: ThunderShock
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Double Kick
Level 36: Spark
Level 42: Pin Missile
Level 47: Agility
Level 52: Thunder Wave
Level 57: Thunder

HMs: Strength, Flash, Rock Smash

Vaporeon:

Spoiler:

Level 1: Tail Whip, Quick Attack
Level 8: Sand-Attack
Level 16: Water Gun (resisting the urge to put Bubble in for the Bubble Jet Pokémon)
Level 23: Bite
Level 30: Water Pulse
Level 36: Aurora Beam
Level 42: Haze
Level 47: Acid Armor
Level 52: Hydro Pump
Level 57: Dirty Surf err… Muddy Water (Sorry, Swampert)

HMs: Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Dive

Comments? If you all like it, I can post an IPS.

I would change either Blaze Kick or Smog to Flamethrower for Flareon.
And instead of water gun for Vaporeon, why not bubblebeam?

 

[easyaspi314]

I would change either Blaze Kick or Smog to Flamethrower for Flareon.

NO.

If my Flareon's stat changes go through, its base Special Attack stat would be 60 instead of 95. That is less than half of its Physical Attack stat.
That is the same as Cyndaquil.

Blaze Kick is Physical, so it comes off the 130 stat.
It has a base power of 85, 90% accuracy, 10% chance to burn, and an increased critical hit ratio.
It's a good move.

Flamethrower is Special, so it comes off the 60 stat.
It has a base power of 90 (I followed XY changes so it isn't 95 anymore), 100% accuracy, and a 10% chance to burn.
It is also a good move, but not for my new Flareon.

For example, I modded Showdown to have the updated stats.
I put a Flareon with 0 EVs and a Serious nature.
I put a Mew out with even Defense and Special Defense.
All IVs are 31.

When I used Flamethrower, the average over 7 tries was 20.9% damage.
When I used Blaze Kick, the average over 7 tries was 33.5% damage.

I'll let you choose.

I really wish I could put Flare Blitz in, but it doesn't exist yet. Double-Edge is the same thing, only it is Normal-type.

And instead of water gun for Vaporeon, why not bubblebeam?

How about replace it with Bubble? With XY stats, Bubble will have a base power of 40 instead of 20.

BubbleBeam has a base power of 65, and you are literally better off teaching it Surf. Having it at level 16 is a bit OP, anyways.

 

[easyaspi314]

Where is it playable until?

What do you mean?

 

[Trainer 766]

What do you mean?

He meant where does the beta ends.

 

[easyaspi314]

Hey, if you didn't already know, Hidden Power is messed up. It seems to only do 1 HP, or 2 with a crit..

Now I know that I have been changing attack stats in my working copy, but it seems that Hidden Power Fighting works properly. I even tested it on a Wobbuffet who used Mirror Coat first try and it worked.

If you are wondering, I used it on a Naughty Vaporeon with the IVs of: 4 HP, 17 Atk, 22 Def., 30 Sp. Atk., 4 Sp. Def., and 16 Speed (stupid me, should've made THAT my Jolteon, a vanilla Flareon, or at least an Espeon!).

Testing around, I made the frustrating discovery that my Raikou (which I still feel that it was too easy to encounter) gets Hidden Power Ground… which only deals 1 HP.

 

[easyaspi314]

Does anyone have a PokeRoms.ini for G3T? I can't get it to work, and I tried changing some header bytes to match vanilla and it went from shouting at me to freezing.

 

[easyaspi314]

Hey, I just realized…

Why is Sleep Powder a TM? It seems like only Grass-types can use it, except Sneasel can.

 

[emilin_rose]

I tried running this through the Universal Pokemon Randomizer but it didn't work. anyone know the data/info to make it work?

 

[Trainer 766]

I tried running this through the Universal Pokemon Randomizer but it didn't work. anyone know the data/info to make it work?

As far as I know,Universal Randomizer doesn't work on this particular ROM.

 

[FIQ]

Hey, I just realized…

Why is Sleep Powder a TM? It seems like only Grass-types can use it, except Sneasel can.

Because Linkandzelda originally used the Shiny Gold TM list (to be able to base learnsets of 3gen mons from someone). I know this myself from asking him at some point a few months ago.
I suggested changing it to Psych Up (what the TM was in GSC), which he found fair enough.
When I was messing with this and looking into changing movesets as well as adding some 3gen tutors, I got stuck on some issue. I later fixed it but forgot about it all lol.

 

[easyaspi314]

Because Linkandzelda originally used the Shiny Gold TM list (to be able to base learnsets of 3gen mons from someone). I know this myself from asking him at some point a few months ago.
I suggested changing it to Psych Up (what the TM was in GSC), which he found fair enough.
When I was messing with this and looking into changing movesets as well as adding some 3gen tutors, I got stuck on some issue. I later fixed it but forgot about it all lol.

By the way, do you know what's up with Hidden Power only doing 1 HP? I think Fighting works, but none of the others work. I read earlier that it has to do with the P/S split.