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Prism League Discussion (Previously "Our own Pokemon X/Y League")

Leaders/E4 using Pokemon whose Megas change to a different type, yes or no?

  • Yes

    Votes: 25 75.8%

  • No

    Votes: 8 24.2%
  • Total voters
    33
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Ferraligator said:
1) Ok, it's TWO separate leagues... X/Y & Showdown.
***Why didn't we divide the list for people who were in xy to pick from all types? And all types for showdown? Just asking since they're separate, and none have to do with each other.
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Eh, I personally could go either way on this. I don't WANT to go through this type drafting nightmare again, but if you guys want to split types between the two halves of the leagues, so be it. But on the other hand, while they are separate leagues, yes - we're all under the same roof in regards to people are going to challenge both, and they're both set up the same way, often with members participating in both, and both run out of PC here. While most people may not challenge one after another, I don't think it would be as neat, if you played one league against 2 leaders with water pokes (as first then second types) then went to play the other league, and had 2 more leaders with water pokes (as first then second types).

Ferraligator said:
2) Has anyone seen the difference between the gym leaders and elite four? As far as i know, none. They both use 6 pokemon and are set to types. We are all aware that the elite IS stronger than the leaders, but that doesnt change with what i said above.
**Maybe to make it simpler on challenger, and differenciate the gyms and elite, gyms could use 3-5 pokes (just my opinion, open for discussion, and just brining it up! Nothing has to change if no one likes lol) while the challenger uses just as many pokes as the leader.

Example: Ferraligator vs challenger, 4 vs 4 doubles
Cyclone 5 vs 5 singles...

So on and so forth. *electrode used explosion*
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Um, I think the difference is going to be the difficulty mainly, and the number / checkpoint before the elites. The gym leaders are already going to have to deal with enough I think though - being typed (even dual) against non type locked teams of six competitive pokes. Cutting their teams size down may be insta-death lol. We can always gauge and correct difficulty if it seems to easy for leaders / challengers, but that may have to be something we see before we throws changes at it.

Charizard_Man said:
Hmmm I would think X/Y should also abide by those same rules just to have some continuity and as to not confuse challengers. Just my opinion
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Whhhhich rules though - because yeah, I think things like not putting half their team to sleep should be rules, and evasion being exploited; yeah - but let's try and be specific instead of just saying "We're using all of Smogon's rules". We have that banlist for Ubers, and things like Mega Kanga + Mega Gengar, and we have things like the clauses of "no repeat pokemon on a team" - but we should be pretty explicit about which we have and don't have. Like repeat items. Are we allowing duplicate items on challengers and leaders, just one, or neither?

arinceo said:
It's kinda cool looking at the selected dual types and seeing what Pokemon they can use. Still frighteningly powerful:

13th: Ultraviolence / Bug & Water
Clearly, a rain team with Scizor would kill it. Could also use a Mega Pinsir or Heracross, then the typical water pokes like Greninja, Lanturn as a special wall.
14th: Ferraligator / Ghost & Dark
Open to Aegislash, Trevenant, with Sableye able to be used for either type. Tyranitar and Greninja also viable dark types.
15th: Ozymandias / Psychic & Electric
A little more interesting on this one, but I can definitely see a Gardevoir or Gallade making an appearance. Rotom in any form would be a good option too.
16th: Tetra / Normal & Fairy
Staraptor is a pretty potent normal type, then Fairy can use competitive pokes like Klefki, Mawile, Togekiss and Gardevoir.
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hah - SPEAKING of types, does anyone have a time on the last pic? Falkbalk's time should be up soon, mandating a skip to the next person up in line.
 
I havent kept track on falkbalk.

If we go by Smogon's rules, i cant use my Aegislash? Just asking to see if i would have to move my team around.
 
Cyclone said:
Spoiler:
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My French teacher's name is Nick Bond. We call him Mr. Bond. That pic made me laugh. A lot.

Cyclone said:
Yeah, I was kind of wondering that, too. The Elite Four stays intact, and the defeated Champion has to completely step down, but can later apply for a leadership role. Right?

EDIT: Actually, I'll expand on this! The defeated Champion, after a preset period passes, can challenge the existing Champion. This can only be done by people who have already defeated the league and been Champion at some point before; anyone who beats the E4 and fails to beat the Champion in their first run must run the gauntlet again, just like in the games. Unless we're easing that part.
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I think that it would be best that an old Champion should have to challenge the Elite first.

Zekrom said:
You can give the CSS a shot if you feel up to it. Just don't feel like you have to do it.

And yeah, leaders can choose if they're going to do Singles/Doubles/whatever. I had assumed that everyone in the Showdown part was gonna do singles, but we might as well make it so everyone can choose (I think Polar mentioned it anyway). I'm pretty sure that we were going to allow ourselves to change our teams whenever we want (within reason), but I don't exactly remember what we decided; can someone confirm/deny this?

And making some edits to the OP thing:

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Alright, so how about now? Anyone have any issues with the rules and/or formatting?
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Why am I even here? Thanks for putting what confidence I had left on the shelf for another time. :/ Joking, I'm grateful for that edit. Maybe a few simple images to replace the title and categories.


Also, I was worried my Router would be cruel to me all day, but it saved it's pitiful life. (AKA my router stopped working for most of the day, expect it to crap again.)

(EDIT) Also, since people are saying we're nearing the activation process, I think we should bring back the problem from the very beginning, one of the most important things in our League's history, the thing people will remember us by. The name. I suggest "Quartz League".
 
Great. My R button is starting to be stupid. I really don't want to have to buy a new system or wait two weeks for a repair - which by now I'd HAVE to pay for.

AdamEternal said:
My French teacher's name is Nick Bond. We call him Mr. Bond. That pic made me laugh. A lot.
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You're welcome.

As for league name, how about something more simple like - well, what "region" are we? They're Kanto League, Hoenn League, Kalos League, etc. PokéCommunity League?
 
Just gonna fire a bunch off,

PokeChampions League
Kalos Masters League
Sure, why not Quartz League
Beta, Zeta, Delta League
Delta Emerald League?
PC Masters Race (get it- okay probably not the best name if we're not timing anything but the joke is still there)
PC Challenge League
Topaz League
X/Y & Showdown Joint League
Zygarde Cup ( I don't know)
PC Battle Frontier
Hulk Hogans Heroes of Canterlot and Beyond Starring Buzz Lightyear
 
Euphoric said:
How about the "Crazy Contenders' Coalition"?
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Haha that's actually not bad imo. 'contenders' and 'coalition' are both terms I think fit well. I would say something like Kalos Contenders Coalition but that's mildly KKK - esque :I


Maybe PokeCommunity Contenders Coalition?

Idunno, I keep pushing things like "PC" and "League" because I think it would help the activity if it were very clear, right from viewing the title, what exactly it was. People should know it's a league, from reading the name I think.

A League of our own. Sounds so cheesy. lol

A Community X/Y League? ♥♥♥♥ I'm kinda just bad at this.
 
Cyclone said:
Great. My R button is starting to be stupid. I really don't want to have to buy a new system or wait two weeks for a repair - which by now I'd HAVE to pay for.


You're welcome.

As for league name, how about something more simple like - well, what "region" are we? They're Kanto League, Hoenn League, Kalos League, etc. PokéCommunity League?
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My L button was being stupid quite some time ago. Just learned a few months ago that it was working again.
Technically, not all of the ingame Leagues were named after their region. Indigo League was in Kanto.

Polar Spectrum said:
Just gonna fire a bunch off,

PokeChampions League
Kalos Masters League
Sure, why not Quartz League
Beta, Zeta, Delta League
Delta Emerald League?
PC Masters Race (get it- okay probably not the best name if we're not timing anything but the joke is still there)
PC Challenge League
Topaz League
X/Y & Showdown Joint League
Zygarde Cup ( I don't know)
PC Battle Frontier
Hulk Hogans Heroes of Canterlot and Beyond Starring Buzz Lightyear
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I like "Quartz League" because Quartz is colorless in most pictures (that's the Quartz I like), and it's a crystal.
What does Zeta and Delta mean? I sorta know what Beta means.
I google Topaz and come out with two different gems. Blue gems and brown gems. Which is it?

Also, we should decide on League ranks. There's the standard, GL E and Champ. But then there should be the High Council and Managers. The Managers will be Me and Polar.
The Managers aren't much more in power then the High Council, and are only Managers because they came up with the idea and have rights. But we'll treat the High Council as equal. Right Polar? Don't ya dare grin!
The High Council will be people such as Zekrom who we can trust. Trust to be active (unlike me), trust to take good care, and just trust overall. Now that I actually look at it, it look's like I'm praising Zekrom... Stupid me. -_-
 
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Polar Spectrum said:
Haha that's actually not bad imo. 'contenders' and 'coalition' are both terms I think fit well. I would say something like Kalos Contenders Coalition but that's mildly KKK - esque :I


Maybe PokeCommunity Contenders Coalition?

Idunno, I keep pushing things like "PC" and "League" because I think it would help the activity if it were very clear, right from viewing the title, what exactly it was. People should know it's a league, from reading the name I think.

A League of our own. Sounds so cheesy. lol

A Community X/Y League? ♥♥♥♥ I'm kinda just bad at this.
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Thanks, haha. I think PokeCommunity Contenders Coalition works very well. It creates the image of a "forum-wide" competition, I think, which is cool, while retaining the alliteration I was going for :D
 
Hahah. High Council sounds like we're Jedi. And forgive me if it's not the case, but I think that falls under "Extraneous things not absolutely essential for the league's upcoming launch / operation". A name, we need. These types, we need. Rules, we need. And speaking of types - what are we doing about people to join after the draft started's picks? Are we waiting until after the draft is done to give them picks? Or are we putting them at the bottom and giving them the choice of which types were available then, and whichever were or still are available in the second round? Iiii - would vote wait until the draft is done. Anybody else?

Euphoric said:
Thanks, haha. I think PokeCommunity Contenders Coalition works very well. It creates the image of a "forum-wide" competition, I think, which is cool, while retaining the alliteration I was going for :D
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Alliteration is the best hahah. If we don't put "league" somewhere in the title, I could live with that name though. It does have a ring to it.
 
AdamEternal said:
My L button was being stupid quite some time ago. Just learned a few months ago that it was working again.
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Yeah, mine starts working again, and it seems to be working now, so I think it's dust. I tried blowing air in, hopefully not sending in spittle. Still not perfect, but it works.

Technically, not all of the ingame Leagues were named after their region. Indigo League was in Kanto.
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Touché. Still Indigo League in Gen. II and IV?

I like "Quartz League" because Quartz is colorless in most pictures (that's the Quartz I like), and it's a crystal.
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(a) Crystal was covered in Gen. II
(b) Did you just call us colourless?

Also, we should decide on League ranks. There's the standard, GL E and Champ. But then there should be the High Council and Managers. The Managers will be Me and Polar.
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Remember, at some point, when there are enough Leaders, both of you should be replaced in the league. This may sound harsh, but think about it; you can fill in for people on vacation (even with their own team!) or suddenly absent due to, say, life emergencies (suddenly gone due to a tornado for instance, back five days later). It's hard enough managing your own team. To suddenly have to handle two teams is ridiculously difficult, I think you may agree. So when we have enough people, move someone into the E4 in Polar's spot and your spot is also filled. That way you stay as management of the league, and can concentrate on that.

The Managers aren't much more in power then the High Council, and are only Managers because they came up with the idea and have rights. But we'll treat the High Council as equal. Right Polar? Don't ya dare grin!
The High Council will be people such as Zekrom who we can trust. Trust to be active (unlike me), trust to take good care, and just trust overall. Now that I actually look at it, it look's like I'm praising Zekrom... Stupid me. -_-
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So you don't trust me? :P

High Council, BTW, are not under the requirement to stay in a management position. Only the Managers will fill in for missing Leaders for any reason. Therefore, High Council can still be Leaders. Sound good?
 
I don't know why, especially since I accused Fokko of hacking early on (a full team of shinies kicking ass isn't what you I see everyday) (don't worry, it is done and over), but this was Heartwarming when I went to see Fokko's shop again: https://www.pokecommunity.com/posts/8360570/

Also, I have no idea how you so many of you guys are still replying at 9:00PM. I have to get to reading in bed before going to sleep. I was on plenty late. :P
 
AdamEternal said:
I don't know why, especially since I accused Fokko of hacking early on (a full team of shinies kicking ass isn't what you I see everyday) (don't worry, it is done and over), but this was Heartwarming when I went to see Fokko's shop again: https://www.pokecommunity.com/posts/8360570/

Also, I have no idea how you so many of you guys are still replying at 9:00PM. I have to get to reading in bed before going to sleep. I was on plenty late. :P
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oh thanks!!! I'm trying real hard on breeding my perfect grass type team lol
 
Cyclone said:
Remember, at some point, when there are enough Leaders, both of you should be replaced in the league. This may sound harsh, but think about it; you can fill in for people on vacation (even with their own team!) or suddenly absent due to, say, life emergencies (suddenly gone due to a tornado for instance, back five days later). It's hard enough managing your own team. To suddenly have to handle two teams is ridiculously difficult, I think you may agree. So when we have enough people, move someone into the E4 in Polar's spot and your spot is also filled. That way you stay as management of the league, and can concentrate on that.
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Uhhhmmmm heh - Cyclone, buddy, pal, I think earlier in the thread, I asked that we not start pointing fingers at each other suggesting people be ousted from the league so frivolously :P It could spiral into something problematic rather quickly. I can't speak for anyone else, but I know that if I can't handle what I'm doing, I'll ask for help or step down of my own accord. Now again, before we start looking that far into the future, and setting up titles and councils and stuff, I for one - think we need firmer ground rules and to settle the few things we're working on currently.

Namely, we were recently discussing the format rules between Showdown and X/Y. We're all in agreement, that Showdown will simply follow Smogon's X/Y OU Tier rules, for regular singles battles. Can someone with Showodown, and Smogon ruleset knowledge, confirm if those same rules will be usable should a leader on Showdown want to do double battles? Or, even if we need to ask this question- since I don't think any current Showdown leaders want to do doubles, so why bother.

We also still don't have a name, or anyone's opinion besides mine if we should keep the new additions to the league from the type draft, until all the people that have been here pick their types, or throw them in at the bottom - going off of what we had left at that time.

There was other stuff too :U If anyone could bring us full circle. I know we have Zekrom's OP just about ready, has anyone done anything more about the badges? I'll PM Cakesu now.
 
Polar Spectrum said:
Uhhhmmmm heh - Cyclone, buddy, pal, I think earlier in the thread, I asked that we not start pointing fingers at each other suggesting people be ousted from the league so frivolously :P It could spiral into something problematic rather quickly. I can't speak for anyone else, but I know that if I can't handle what I'm doing, I'll ask for help or step down of my own accord. Now again, before we start looking that far into the future, and setting up titles and councils and stuff, I for one - think we need firmer ground rules and to settle the few things we're working on currently.
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I wasn't pointing fingers. It was a suggestion. You're free to consider or decline the suggestion. It's just to give everyone more defined roles in the league rather than doubling up on things. The reasons behind the suggestion are not negative, but constructive.
 
Im going to ignore that ^^ and focus on this vv

1)As far as the name for the league: i agree with PokeCommunity Contenders league will be awesome. Or just PokeCommunity league will be just as awesome. *voltorb used selfdestruct*

2) what do you mean new additions Polar? It seems fine.

3) i dont mind following smogons rules, but since we are, for xy, does that mean no aegislash?
*electrode used explosion*
 
Ahah, alright alright. I'd just appreciate it if it weren't insinuated I, or anyone - should be leaving any roles they fulfill unless there's a good reason :P And mm - tomorrow I (or someone else can) message one of the BTB mods, to maybe change the poll, to one with the possible names we've tossed around for the league so far. And for new additions, I mean the people that joined between now and when we held qualifier battles, ie; Tetra and whomever else was just jumping in these last few pages. (glad to have you guys, just trying to work out the whole typings thing. ^^ )

And Aegislash, is a pretty good example of what I'm talking about with suggesting we be selective about what we take from Smogon. Most of it, almost all - I agree with. And my opinion isn't even what matters. But they are regularly issuing new bans to things, such as Aegislash, Mega Lucario, Mega Gengar, Mega Kanga, on a widespread scale. Obviously, some of those should probably be kept banned for this league, since in the hands of a challenger or leader/elite it would prove ridiculous to overcome with our setup. But that's something that we'd have to all discuss.

Personally I've never had a problem with Aegislash, but that's probably because it's SIGNIFICANTLY less tedious to deal with in doubles. In singles though, someone who professes in that game type would be much more apt here in calling that fair game or banned for us.

Edit: Oh yeah. Falkbalk, isssss missing for 24 hours very shortly here. We should probably skip, if nobody's against that or if he's not secretly here right now to pick hhaaha.

Falkbalk if you come back and see this, feel free to pick your type from what's available as soon as you're here again. ^^ We just gotta keep this moving.

Current Listing:
1st: Antebellum / Steel
2nd: Euphoric / Dragon
3rd: Polar Spectrum - / Flying
4th: Zekrom / Fire
5th: Charizard Man - / Ground
6th: TGM - / Water
7th: Fokko / Grass
8th: Cyclone / Dark
9th: enigma / Fairy
10th: BlueBoi / Ice
11th: AdamEternal / Electric
12th: Falkbalk / Rock & skip
13th: Ultraviolence / Bug & Water
14th: Ferraligator /Ghost & Dark
15th: Ozymandias / Psychic & Electric

Remaining Types

Normal
Fire
Fighting
Flying
Grass
Poison
Ground
Psychic
Rock
Ice
Bug
Dragon
Ghost
Steel
Fairy

Adam is next. He should be here at least some point today / the next 24 hours.
 
Polar Spectrum said:
Ahah, alright alright. I'd just appreciate it if it weren't insinuated I, or anyone - should be leaving any roles they fulfill unless there's a good reason :P And mm - tomorrow I (or someone else can) message one of the BTB mods, to maybe change the poll, to one with the possible names we've tossed around for the league so far. And for new additions, I mean the people that joined between now and when we held qualifier battles, ie; Tetra and whomever else was just jumping in these last few pages. (glad to have you guys, just trying to work out the whole typings thing. ^^ )

And Aegislash, is a pretty good example of what I'm talking about with suggesting we be selective about what we take from Smogon. Most of it, almost all - I agree with. And my opinion isn't even what matters. But they are regularly issuing new bans to things, such as Aegislash, Mega Lucario, Mega Gengar, Mega Kanga, on a widespread scale. Obviously, some of those should probably be kept banned for this league, since in the hands of a challenger or leader/elite it would prove ridiculous to overcome with our setup. But that's something that we'd have to all discuss.

Personally I've never had a problem with Aegislash, but that's probably because it's SIGNIFICANTLY less tedious to deal with in doubles. In singles though, someone who professes in that game type would be much more apt here in calling that fair game or banned for us.

Edit: Oh yeah. Falkbalk, isssss missing for 24 hours very shortly here. We should probably skip, if nobody's against that or if he's not secretly here right now to pick hhaaha.

Falkbalk if you come back and see this, feel free to pick your type from what's available as soon as you're here again. ^^ We just gotta keep this moving.

Current Listing:
1st: Antebellum / Steel
2nd: Euphoric / Dragon
3rd: Polar Spectrum - / Flying
4th: Zekrom / Fire
5th: Charizard Man - / Ground
6th: TGM - / Water
7th: Fokko / Grass
8th: Cyclone / Dark
9th: enigma / Fairy
10th: BlueBoi / Ice
11th: AdamEternal / Electric
12th: Falkbalk / Rock & skip
13th: Ultraviolence / Bug & Water
14th: Ferraligator /Ghost & Dark
15th: Ozymandias / Psychic & Electric

Remaining Types

Normal
Fire
Fighting
Flying
Grass
Poison
Ground
Psychic
Rock
Ice
Bug
Dragon
Ghost
Steel
Fairy

Adam is next. He should be here at least some point today / the next 24 hours.
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Thanks for clearing things out! As far as the new addition, to your discretion man, i have got no problemas with that.

As far as aegislash, even though is one of my top 5 faves, im gonna let it out my team and fill in with a secret poke... once im done with my sig hehe. Another quick quesh about pokes. Obviously some are dual types. How many dual types are each gym leader allowed to have in their selective team?
 
Polar Spectrum said:
Hahah. High Council sounds like we're Jedi. And forgive me if it's not the case, but I think that falls under "Extraneous things not absolutely essential for the league's upcoming launch / operation". A name, we need. These types, we need. Rules, we need. And speaking of types - what are we doing about people to join after the draft started's picks? Are we waiting until after the draft is done to give them picks? Or are we putting them at the bottom and giving them the choice of which types were available then, and whichever were or still are available in the second round? Iiii - would vote wait until the draft is done. Anybody else?
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I do find the Jedi Council-esque thing amusing, but I also agree that that's something that can be put off until after the League is up and running.

As for newer people picking types, I'm also in favor of making them wait until the rest of us pick our types (they can then pick from what's left of the types). I think I said it before, but I really want this type picking to be done, and with 15 people, we have enough to at least start battles in the League.
Polar Spectrum said:
Namely, we were recently discussing the format rules between Showdown and X/Y. We're all in agreement, that Showdown will simply follow Smogon's X/Y OU Tier rules, for regular singles battles. Can someone with Showodown, and Smogon ruleset knowledge, confirm if those same rules will be usable should a leader on Showdown want to do double battles? Or, even if we need to ask this question- since I don't think any current Showdown leaders want to do doubles, so why bother.
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I think it would be a good idea for both divisions to follow most of Smogon's rules, and I'm pretty sure that Smogon Doubles follows most of the rules of Singles.

Ferraligator said:
As far as aegislash, even though is one of my top 5 faves, im gonna let it out my team and fill in with a secret poke... once im done with my sig hehe. Another quick quesh about pokes. Obviously some are dual types. How many dual types are each gym leader allowed to have in their selective team?
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You can have as many dual types as you want; they only requirement is that you have 3 that are of each of your selected types. So in your case, 3 Pokemon that are at least part Ghost, and 3 that are at least part Dark.
 
Thanks for clearing that out zekrom!

We need to clear out the whole gym badge/emblem thing. And thr other little stuff, rules and such.
 
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