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Put the ME back!

Melody

Melody

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    Personally I don't like the sudden closure of the Member Encyclopedia without any warning. If there was a problem with them; why not work it out?

    Much of the Member Encyclopedia had the charm of the old Member Fanclubs back in the day; and I do not feel like we should scrap this at all. There was nothing wrong with it. It made for interesting conversation with members.
     
    Audy said:
    ... which leads me to: Member Encyclopedia has been archived and will now be read-only. We're going to start an official AMA feature soon and invite certain people to make them in Main Street
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    They are just renovating! :D
     
    flight said:
    From what Audy's post seems to be implying, they're not going away for good. Rather, they're going to be brought back in a different form.
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    But why even remove them until the new feature is ready to go live?

    I don't even like the idea of AMAs going into Main Street.

    To clarify; I have a very big concern: the movement of ME threads into Main Street; and then locking them down so that only chosen members get featured. To me this feels like a big step backwards on PC.
     
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    flight said:
    My opinion as such, and why I personally agree with the decision:

    Let's be honest. It was dead. It's foolish to say it wasn't; the number of active AMAs you could probably count on one hand and some on the other, and it was always the same people that got shitposty and circlejerky replies. Not that there's anything necessarily wrong in itself out of this, but some people didn't get fair exposure. Some people got so far as one or two pages before dying off completely. I disagree that this is a "big step backwards".

    I don't see this as a big deal at all, personally. There's nothing wrong with going a different route with AMAs. All we know is that specific people are going to be chosen to have AMAs...and I'd personally wait until either higher staff or Shawn (or both) have all the details hammered out to really reveal to the public how AMAs are going to work out, but we know they arent gone, and we should be satisfied with that.

    In short, the ME had its time to shine, but it seems that it was time to reinvent how it's approached.
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    I agree, and I'd like to add that the questions' quality in the current AMA/ME are just uh... lacking, especially lately. (Trying not to be harsh)

    The idea of AMA is actually great. Locking them isn't necessarily bad, rebooting is needed. (: Hopefully the future questions won't be generic simple questions like the previous ones we've seen; those questions really beat the purpose of VM/AMA, people can simply ask the generic questions through VMs, tbrh.
     
    flight said:
    In short, the ME had its time to shine, but it seems that it was time to reinvent how it's approached.
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    My problem is less with the re-invention; but rather how they seem to be approaching this re-invention. Suddenly now, it's supposed to be an exclusive HONOR to be chosen? Where's the WELCOME in that? Where's the community building in that; if you have to stand in line, or hope you meet staff's criteria to get one of these?
     
    Sometimes it isn't necessary to let the rest of the community know about changes here and there. It can be tedious and more often than not the changes are only small ones. I agree this change was a rather large one, but take solace in the fact that they will be back in some shape and form eventually!
     
    flight said:
    I don't think it's quite fair to really sum it up as that. We don't know what the standards are, and I assume that's something h-staff/Shawn are ironing out as we speak. We also don't know the entire protocol or policies behind it, and I really think that's something that, again, we should wait for the such to be brought to light before voicing any concerns.
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    I think you're missing the entire scope of my concern. I don't want such a thing to be for certain members chosen by anything! I don't feel like that advances the welcoming atmosphere at all! I feel like anybody should be able to access this with minimal hassle. The Member Encyclopedia had a sensible post and participation minimum. If there were any problems, it was isolated to certain threads that could possibly have used a moderator's touch. But there wasn't anyone devoted to that task; so there was nobody on staff who could have genuinely invested a lot of time there to ensure all was as it should have been! (It was all run by h-staff)
     
    flight said:
    But you're missing the point of my post when I said...



    How do you know how members are going to be chosen? You may disagree with this as a concept, but we know nothing beyond that, so I don't see the reason for the concern until everything is 100% hammered out.
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    I'm saying I'm opposed to the entire concept!
     
    I don't think I'll be missing ME, I only poked around there once or twice a week and rarely posted myself. I wouldn't even be upset if no ME-like threads appeared in Main Street.

    Idk, with all The Treehouse threads where you can learn about people, private and visitor messaging on site and the increasing number of '''official''' skype rooms don't we have enough opportunities to get to know one another and ask questions? ME was just a more artificial, rigid form of communication.
     
    This is my opinion/vision. Not representative of HQ/Shawn's future plans with the area.

    It seems like some people think we've done away with Welcome Lounge. The core of Main Street remains the Welcome Lounge. There's no difference there. It's a place for members to head in, feel welcomed, and start their interactions with the broader community. On top of that, we are going to be looking at member events, member spotlights (something we've not ironed out yet - it's something I'd personally like to help Shawn with as well!), AMAs, and as much member "interactivity" as possible.

    Spotlights could be member-chosen, so the entire member base can nominate people to get to know more, whether they're new or old - akin to El Heroe's old Member Blogs. This encourages discussion, interaction, questions, and getting to know a member in a short feature similar to the ME threads, but also eliminates the eventual "dying out" of the threads in ME. New threads got traction for a short period and then died. There's barely a handful of threads that lasted longer than a month or two and after that, the members themselves had to bump them. Not really a thrilling area and the tools to get to know and communicate with your fellow members are available in many other places.

    AMAs would take a different approach and could still be member-chosen if that's what we feel is best, but we'd be looking to spotlight members with unique perspectives and careers and lives. We have members that work for Apple, Disney, Sega, the movie industry, the scientific community, developers of websites, and many more unique fields of interest and that'd be a great thing to feature that are separate from Spotlights.

    We've taken the good elements and good potential from ME and we're trying to re-tool them into this new area. ME was really not that fun or inviting for a majority of the members and once the thrill of a few questions died off, 98% of the threads died off as well. We don't usually give members notice of changes we're making until we've made them, but I can assure you this was discussed well and there are optimistic outlines and goals ahead.

    All of that to say that I personally want to feel and see more members heading into Main Street to take part in welcoming our new members, getting involved with celebrations, and interacting with new features we'll be looking to add. Those are just some base thoughts on the topic. Once again, I'm speaking myself here and not laying out any goals for the area exactly - just my idea of what is possible with a fresh look and a fresh area - especially given ME is 1) mostly a ghost town 2) unavailable to a large number of members.
     
    Honestly Melody, it feels to me that more than being against the concept you're angry because you lost your own AMA or something and are concerned that you won't get to be a part of the new AMA stuff.

    You should wait until you actually see what is going to become of things before jumping down peoples' throats over the issue. PC is not a place that aims for exclusivity of anything, and I am confident it never will be. I personally don't know what h-staff/Shawn have planned but I think you should have a bit more trust in them. I am certain that in some way, shape or form member interaction will be a big part of the new section.
     
    I don't care about Member Encyclopedia becoming a thing of the past, because the section was always struggling to get suitable activity due to the limitations that had to be met to even make a thread.

    That said, it will be interesting to hear about the new AMA system and how it'll work.
     
    Most of the time, I saw new members make threads to welcome themselves in The Welcome Lounge, but never return after that. If we're also hosting events in the newly-coined Main Street, and also evening having running AMAs, it could literally make a new member feel welcome and that they've stepped into the right forum. That's how I see that.

    As for ME, I'm beating a dead horse at this point; it was dead. Yes, it had new posts on a daily basis, but instead of the whole community posting in it and getting to know their fellow members, it was only a select few.
     
    I didn't even notice that the section was gone. Then again, I never met the requirements to set a thread up and randomly asking random people that I don't care all too much, didn't seem feasible to me. After all, if you have a thread, people should legitimately be interested in the answers they get and not just do it for some random requirements.
    It kinda boils down to more popular people getting all the attention, so I can see why the section was dead. Makes me wonder, how that is going to be handled, if at all.
     
    R.F. said:
    I didn't even notice that the section was gone. Then again, I never met the requirements to set a thread up and randomly asking random people that I don't care all too much, didn't seem feasible to me. After all, if you have a thread, people should legitimately be interested in the answers they get and not just do it for some random requirements.
    It kinda boils down to more popular people getting all the attention, so I can see why the section was dead. Makes me wonder, how that is going to be handled, if at all.
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    Agreed. If anything, if you wanted to get to know a member then just vm them.
     
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