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Is this good for a GOLDUCK?

Golduck @ Hasty
Cloud Nine
252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 SpAtk
~Cross Chop
~Confuse Ray
~Shadow Claw
~Ice Beam

Cross Chop & Confuse Ray are Egged from a Smeargle.
 
Hair_of_the_Dawn said:
Is this good for a GOLDUCK?
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Golduck @ Life Orb
Nature: Hasty
Cloud Nine
252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 SpAtk
~Cross Chop
~Hypnosis
~Waterfall
~Ice Beam

This is the set you had, with some changes.

or..

Golduck @ Choice Band
Nature: Jolly/Adament
Cloud Nine
252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Cross Chop
~Shadow Claw
~Waterfall
~Ice Punch

But he's better as a special attacker..

Golduck @ Leftovers
Nature: Timid/Modest
Cloud Nine
252 Sp Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Surf
~Calm Mind
~Hypnosis
~Ice Beam

or

Golduck @ Choice Specs
Nature: Timid/Modest
Cloud Nine
252 Sp Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Surf
~Psychic
~Hidden Power Electric
~Ice Beam


Cloud Nine makes him a great Sandstorm/Sunny Day/Rain Dance/Hail team killer if used correctly.
Being used for this purpose, I think he could make good use of a bulky EV spread, but I'm not sure on the EVs.
 
Sk8 said:
Golduck @ Choice Specs
Nature: Timid/Modest
Cloud Nine
252 Sp Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Surf
~Psychic
~Hidden Power Grass
~Ice Beam
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Grass over Electric. Golduck is most effective at countering UU Rain Dance teams. Grass OHKOs Kabutops, Omastar, and Gorebyss along with other Rain Dance blockers like Quagsire. Golduck needs all the Speed it can get, so I prefer Timid nature over Modest.
 
Clefable @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
252 HP / 152 Def / 106 Sp Def
Cosmic Power
Seismic Toss
Thunderwave/Toxic
Soft Boiled

I've always wondered why there was never a Cosmic Power Clefable set listed anywhere...and it could work. After one CP, Clefable's stats are 394HP / 330 Def / 399 Sp Def...That's pretty darn sturdy in any environment...expecially UU. If she manages to get two in, That's 394 / 440 / 532. Proceed to paralyze or poison whaterver switches in, then plug away with seismic toss. Thoughts?
 
Toxic over Thunder Wave on that, Seismic Toss isn't going to bother things like Gastrodon who can PP stall the Toss.
 
Critical hit says hi.

All Cosmic Power sets are pretty much solid on paper, but something like a Steelix uses that as set up fodder.
 
Steelix would totally ruin the set obviously...it's immune to both statuses. I'll try her out and see what works.
 
Curse sets

The move curse is very weird. The type ??? is mysterious. Nevertheless it's useful. It damages the enemy(Ghost) or boost the stats(Others). And it can penetrate Protect!

This is my premiere Curser.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers

Curse
Mean Look
Will 'o' Wisp
Confuse ray or Ice punch.

or

Umbreon @ Leftovers

Confuse ray
Curse
Double-edge
Ice beam.

Cool huh?

Other opinion?
 
Curse is pretty useless on Ghosts unless you're doing a set involving a stat-boosting berry; and even then, Substitute is a much better option, as you leave yourself open for attacks with Curse.

Curse is best used on Pokémon that don't need the Speed and can afford to take a hit or two. Steelix is a great example, using Curse and Gyro Ball effectively.

If you're using Curse on non-Ghosts, you always want a -Speed nature. This is because, if you're going to be butchering your Speed with Curse anyway, why bother sacrificing any other stat? :#
 
As i'm new to competitive battling, I'd like to request an OU team for a complete beginner like me thats easy to use but very effective, also can it include Blaziken and Swampert on it and include all the moveset changes from platinum.

Thanks.
 
Rekon said:
As i'm new to competitive battling, I'd like to request an OU team for a complete beginner like me thats easy to use but very effective, also can it include Blaziken and Swampert on it and include all the moveset changes from platinum.

Thanks.
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Blaziken isn't OU, and do you really want ALL the changes from DP to Pt? There are a lot of them...pick a few.
 
DunderMifflinite said:
Blaziken isn't OU,
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*facepalm*

Just because something isn't in the OU tier, doesn't mean it can't be used in OU or isn't good. Blaziken is a good Choice Bander, Baton Passer, and Reversaller, the latter two being something that Infernape CAN'T do. Heck, I use Raichu in standard battles and it owns like shizz.
 
DunderMifflinite said:
Blaziken isn't OU, and do you really want ALL the changes from DP to Pt? There are a lot of them...pick a few.
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I'm not sure of all the changes as I plan to use the team on shoddy. I'm brand new to competitive battling. So your help woud be appreciated a lot. Thanks.
 
Necromancy said:
*facepalm*

Just because something isn't in the OU tier, doesn't mean it can't be used in OU or isn't good. Blaziken is a good Choice Bander, Baton Passer, and Reversaller, the latter two being something that Infernape CAN'T do. Heck, I use Raichu in standard battles and it owns like shizz.
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I meant that Blaziken can (often) be replaced with something better, depending on what his team needs.

Also I'm not a team-builder-person, so don't look at me for anything other than criticism. =o
 
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Magnezone @ Life Orb
Modest nature
Magnet Pull
4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd
- Agility
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power: Ice
- Flash Cannon

Sturdy is useless in competitive battling as OHKO moves are banned. Magnet Pull, however, lets you take out troublesome Steels, mainly Skarmory. After an Agility, Magnezone will be at 438 Speed, or 480 if you want a +Spd nature (Timid is best without Explosion). This set is makes Magnezone a lethal sweeper, with Modest giving it 394 Special Attack, and is pretty simple to use. Since this is off the top of my head, I can't remember what EVs you'd need in Attack to make Explosion OHKO certain things, but you'd probably want to use a Mild nature if you want Explosion.
 
Necromancy said:
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Magnezone @ Life Orb
Modest nature
Magnet Pull
4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd
- Agility
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power: Ice
- Flash Cannon

Sturdy is useless in competitive battling as OHKO moves are banned. Magnet Pull, however, lets you take out troublesome Steels, mainly Skarmory. After an Agility, Magnezone will be at 438 Speed, or 480 if you want a +Spd nature (Timid is best without Explosion). This set is makes Magnezone a lethal sweeper, with Modest giving it 394 Special Attack, and is pretty simple to use. Since this is off the top of my head, I can't remember what EVs you'd need in Attack to make Explosion OHKO certain things, but you'd probably want to use a Mild nature if you want Explosion.
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But magnezone dooesnt get Agility 0.o

Magnezone@Leftovers
172 hp / 252 sp.att / 84 speed
Modest Nature
Trait: Magnet Pull
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power Ice
- Substitute
- Magnet Rise

Anti steel .

Alternately you can use Magnet Rise/Explosion/T-Bolt/Hidden power Ice 88 HP / 88 Atk / 248 Sp.Att / 84 Spe @life orb@mild. You can use specs too where you put flash cannon >> Magnet rise 172 att / 252 sp.att / 84 speed.

Or you can use rest/STalk/T-Bolt/Hp Ice same evs and nature as first set.

Then there is even scarf max speed / max sp.att @ hasty w/ specs set.
 
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