Request an Individual Moveset / Incomplete Team Help Thread

[coolstr44]

Delibird is rather worthless, with piss poor stats all around and a terrible typing =/

Like I didnt know that, still, idc bout strong or weak in my team..
so if youre not gonna help then dont say anything ok ^^

 

[Pokedra]

Like I didnt know that, still, idc bout strong or weak in my team..
so if youre not gonna help then dont say anything ok ^^

Thats pretty stupid if you don't want your team to be strong. Shiroi Togekiss is right, Delibird sucks, its NU and no one uses it apart from novelty. If your adamant on using him well Hustle Delibird is the only set that can actually do damage to something =/

Delibird @ Choice Band
Jolly
EV : 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~ Aerial Ace
~ Focus Punch
~ Ice Shard
~ Ice Punch / Seed Bomb

 

[Aquilae]

How in the world is Power Trick viable on Shuckle? It is hard to set up, stopped by almost any priority move, not to mention 614 Attack isn't high enough to get past most walls. For those reasons doubles TR Shuckle isn't viable at all.

The Toxic / Encore set is much more useful, but it still isn't viable due to being mostly setup fodder and a free switchin (Scizor says hi)

 

[coolstr44]

ok

Thats pretty stupid if you don't want your team to be strong. Shiroi Togekiss is right, Delibird sucks, its NU and no one uses it apart from novelty. If your adamant on using him well Hustle Delibird is the only set that can actually do damage to something =/

Delibird @ Choice Band
Jolly
EV : 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~ Aerial Ace
~ Focus Punch
~ Ice Shard
~ Ice Punch / Seed Bomb

ayt but I just wanna train it too lvl 100, since im on firered for a awile, and Ive got way stronger teams on pt/p. Ev training attack atm.. macho brace gains around 8-7 attack per lvl :P

thanks :P.

 

[Mobile Tsk]

Both of those sets are gimmicky, don't work, and are risky. The ONLY Shuckle set you should EVER use is one with Encore. I don't care if you can OHKO any Pokemon in any metagame... you can't possibly think you're going to outrun them, and they can just jab at your new abyssmal defenses. (Your new base defenses are 20-10-10, btw)

Shuckle @ Leftovers
252 HP / 208 Def / 48 SpD
Impish Nature
- Encore
- Rest
- Toxic
- Knock Off

And, no, none of these moves are optional at all. Encore keeps Shuckle from becomming setup fodder, and you usually use it the FIRST turn the opponent is out. This way if you can stay in an extra turn without fainting (or if you are certain your opponent will switch out), you can proceed to Knock Off or Toxic. Both will ruin a lot of sets.

Although out of the whole 4 things Shuckle can do, there are Pokemon that do each one better.

 

[Dark Azelf]

There is one word to describe this set : sxzcdadfgdsfbyunbfvdcsfvt.

This set has been done before and it just doesnt work. There is a reason smogon took the Power Trick set off the analysis, because of pretty much what Aquilae said and additionally you get a poop defense stat out of it which means you pretty much lose (base 10 def). Anyways, Shuckle is the best dual wall in the game in sandstorm and really should be played as thus.

Really if you want a scarier Trick Room sweeper, try Belly Drum Snorlax/Hariyama or SD Rampardos/Rhyperior or something. More attack and get the job done alot better.

Also why would you use Trick Room on a CB Gallade ?.?

I guess in double battles it might work as said if you are using follow me, but i have 0 expreience in double battles so i cant comment in that respect.

This doesnt warrant a whole thread btw, use this thread in future ;)

~Merged~

 

[Dark Azelf]

Sending me to that thread doesn't really answer my question...

I'm talking about like a basic guide or something similar to doubles.

Oh sorry i miss interpreted your question, i thought you wanted sets and strategies for double battles thats why i linked you to that thread to ask for them. >.<

I was just told that you should only use Focus Sash on the Lead of your team?

Why?

What Aura said and when not used on a lead there is a 99.9% chance that there is a better item.

 

[Xairmo]

That's perfectly viable, HP Ice works as well. You might want to add a few speed EVs to outpace max speed T-Tar.

What would that kind of EV spread would that look like?

 

[Aurafire]

What would that kind of EV spread would that look like?

252 HP / 220 SpD / 36 Spe @ Calm Nature, outpaces max speed Jolly T-Tar.

 

[FalconJoker]

Use this.

https://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/double_battles

Should get you started =)

Thanks Pokedra. And no hard feelings DA, I was just confused when you sent me there :P

 

[AuraGuardianLeader]

I need an answer from a more experienced player than myself: What is your opinion on having a Legendary Pokemon on an in-game team?

 

[Keyaki]

Well, imo if most of your Pokemon are normal types and you have just one legendary type, you could probably dominate the rest of the game by just using your legendary , leaving out the rest of your Pokemon, making it sort-of un-fair and boring, thats why most of us doing use our legendary Pokemon in the game, only for Competitive battling.

 

[Pokedra]

I need an answer from a more experienced player than myself: What is your opinion on having a Legendary Pokemon on an in-game team?

Well it depends, if your using like Uxie, Azelf or Moltres that would be okay as they aren't too overpowered but something like Palkia or Rayquaza just ruins the fun cause they just massacre everything x]

 

[Xebelleon]

Could a Smeargle get good use from having BELLY DRUM and SUCKER PUNCH on the same moveset?

If so, what would the full four moveslots be filled with?

What would be the EV spread?

 

[Aurafire]

Smeargle is much better suited for passing said Belly Drum boosts instead of using them himself, as it has rather pathetic base 20 attack. I mean, even with maxed out attack stat, Sucker Punch won't be doing much due to lack of STAB. There's Extremespeed, but once again, his frailty is going to come into play. Not to mention, he absolutely needs Spore, and to some extent, Substitute, leaving you with only two attacking options. Better off just passing the boosts with this set:

Smeargle @ Salac Berry
Jolly
244 HP / 12 Def / 252 Spe
- Spore
- Belly Drum
- Substitute
- Baton Pass

Send it out against something slower and substitute. Then Spore and Belly Drum from there, which activates your Salac for the speed boost. Then you pass to your preferred sweeper and mash some heads ;D

 

[Mobile Tsk]

Could a Smeargle get good use from having BELLY DRUM and SUCKER PUNCH on the same moveset?

If so, what would the full four moveslots be filled with?

What would be the EV spread?

No, not really. Even with a Life Orb or (lol) Expert Belt, Sucker Punch will hardly to anything due to being STABless and not having an incredibly high BP. After a Belly Drum (assuming you aren't killed), you have to worry about being outsped and useless. If you noticed the only non-Normal direct damage moves on Smeargle's sets, Dragon Rage and U-Turn, are not for sweeping purposes.

 

[AuraGuardianLeader]

Well it depends, if your using like Uxie, Azelf or Moltres that would be okay as they aren't too overpowered but something like Palkia or Rayquaza just ruins the fun cause they just massacre everything x]

Would Manaphy massacre everything?

 

[Dark Azelf]

I need an answer from a more experienced player than myself: What is your opinion on having a Legendary Pokemon on an in-game team?

Remember, competitive movesets/teams only! NO INGAME TEAMS/SETS PLEASE.

^

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Could a Smeargle get good use from having BELLY DRUM and SUCKER PUNCH on the same moveset?

If so, what would the full four moveslots be filled with?

What would be the EV spread?

How about dont use Smeargle like that lol. If you want a Belly Drumming sweeping normal type, use Linoone who does the Belly Drum + priority thing a whole lot better.

Use the set Aura provided although the (Anti) lead Smeargle set is decent too which will be provided on request if you want an alternative, but it doesnt include Belly Drum so yeah. xp

 

[Xairmo]

Which is a better choice to play as tank/buly special-sweeper: Zapdos or Arcticuno?

 

[Pokedra]

Zapdos makes a better tank despite his lower defences. No 4x SR weakness and less weaknesses to common moves make him a better tank.

As for a special sweeper Zapdos is superior, better SpAtk and Speed ;)