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Rocket's Investigation [Epilogue]

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Okay, I just read what is arguably the longest salt war ever seen in mafia. Firstly, I'm going to point out that Weiss and Syn are not playing any differently than usual - bar Syn's sudden lack of posting which indicated he's been silenced (sleep?).

Second, I don't think anyone was being serious abut the gen 4 thing, but just in case anyone actually thinks that I'm going to point out that we're borrowing mechanics and plot devices from all over the place. This game obviously takes place outside the established game canon etc.

Third, we should not be killing Fletch. We can use his Destiny Bond to take out an enemy legendary with ease and unless I've missed something he's still yet to do anything even remotely suspicious.

Fourth, what's with the mini-wagon on Universe?

Fifth, nobody else attack JD so we can verify Mana's healer claim.


Now that's out of the way

[Attack] Cheshire Cat

He can argue that he's innocent all he wants but he very obviously changed his play style after we pointed out that he was being quiet, which he usually is as a mafia player. On the off chance that he is innocent, we know who to go after next.
 
gimmepie said:
I don't think anyone was being serious abut the gen 4 thing, but just in case anyone actually thinks that I'm going to point out that we're borrowing mechanics and plot devices from all over the place. This game obviously takes place outside the established game canon etc.
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I was completely serious.

Just because it isn't canon doesn't mean it can't take place before 5th and 6th gen x:
 
Golgari said:
I was completely serious.

Just because it isn't canon doesn't mean it can't take place before 5th and 6th gen x:
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It doesn't mean it can't have, you're right there. It would be foolish though to rule out the 5th and 6th generations when we know in fact that we're operating outside of established canon. Unless something in the phase posts indicates otherwise, we shouldn't unnecessarily narrow our scope of investigation by ruling out pokemon from the later two gens.
 
JohnnyMustang said:
EDIT: Being 4th gen would make sense if the GM wouldn't have played further than that, does anyone knows if Lycan played the 5th and 6th gen? If i was gonna make a pokemon game, i would make it 3th gen, because i know **** about the others.
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3th
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lol, I had to.
 
Golgari said:
You forgot one thing Bact.



This is gen 4! you literally cannot be a ferrothorn, because ferrothorn does not exist in this game!

That also means Fletch is lying :)
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At first I completely wrote off your theory, simply because in where you quoted, Lycan said "that is located in neither the Johto nor Sinnoh regions" and the fact that the Pokemon we play as are not wild Pokemon, but rather Pokemon temporarily donated to Oak by other trainers for this mission. This could just as easily mean Pokemon from any region could be present. Personally, I'm still not convinced either. But one thing that is funny is that it is specifically the two regions that exist in the fourth generation of games. Still though... I feel like it may be a stretch to say you're right - but it is totally a possibility.

edit: Also Fletch's destiny bond reminds me of one of the "bomb" roles that were used in older games by the mafia faction. I believe GP had this in Blarzi1, where Klippy was said mafia-aligned bomb. Where he picked someone at night, and if he died, so did that other person? So let's not jump to conclusions saying Destiny Bond is aligned one way or the other specifically. I think this point is still up in the air.
 
Actually, that could be, guys, the only confirmed legendary we know is Desi, who is a Dialga, a Gen 4 Pokemon. Tbh, im leaning with the whole Gen 4 canon theory.

Also, I'm really positive that Syn got silenced. Syn, if you see this, can you like this post and confirm it to everyone? I dont know if thats cheating or what :x

But I do think Bac is really fishy. Would vote for him but I'll wait for people telling me to vote for him.
 
That war was awesome. Based on all that I've read so far, currently my attention is still on Ullion after aeternum mentioned being poisoned upon visiting him and failing the alignment reading. To me that doesn't sound like town behavior and I don't like it.

Edit: On second thought, I'm going to hold my vote and let you talk.
 
Universe said:
That war was awesome. Based on all that I've read so far, currently my attention is still on Ullion after aeternum mentioned being poisoned upon visiting him and failing the alignment reading. To me that doesn't sound like town behavior and I don't like it.

Edit: On second thought, I'm going to hold my vote and let you talk.
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Could you tell me how I could have two incredible abilities (a night attack AND the ability to poison people if they visit me) as an Ariados? We have a confirmed legendary who has one ability, that he can only use once.

I mean, obviously Sonata being poisoned on the night he visited me sounds fishy. But how could I have two separate night abilities? Also, if you think I poison people when I'm visited - then instead of voting for me instantly, why not ask publicly for other people to claim if they got poisoned on the night they visited me or not? Tbh, I feel like you voting for me this quickly is a bit off. :/

edit: I also posted a long post before explaining everything I can that is in my power to (seeing as how little information I have) if you want to read that. >.>
 
Ullion said:
I mean, obviously Sonata being poisoned on the night he visited me sounds fishy. But how could I have two separate night abilities? Also, if you think I poison people when I'm visited - then instead of voting for me instantly, why not ask publicly for other people to claim if they got poisoned on the night they visited me or not? Tbh, I feel like you voting for me this quickly is a bit off. :/
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Care to explain how the investigation itself failed then? I can concede that perhaps someone else hit aeternum and it ended up appearing to be you. However, a failed investigation sounds really off.
 
Universe said:
Care to explain how the investigation itself failed then? I can concede that perhaps someone else hit aeternum and it ended up appearing to be you. However, a failed investigation sounds really off.
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It's possibly he got hit by two night actions at once. It's not that unbelievable, right? I've been mafia lots of times before, and it's definitely a viable thing to hit a single target with multiple NAs.

It's also possible that the mafia has an investigative role of their own, possibly can use foresight/detect, so they knew he was a cop role, so they roleblocked him to stop him from checking people, and they poisoned him to kill him.

Obviously it's all theorycrafting. And if you really want to attack me, go ahead, but you're killing an inno. :P
 
Ullion said:
It's possibly he got hit by two night actions at once. It's not that unbelievable, right? I've been mafia lots of times before, and it's definitely a viable thing to hit a single target with multiple NAs.

It's also possible that the mafia has an investigative role of their own, possibly can use foresight/detect, so they knew he was a cop role, so they roleblocked him to stop him from checking people, and they poisoned him to kill him.

Obviously it's all theorycrafting. And if you really want to attack me, go ahead, but you're killing an inno. :P
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Yeah, I can agree with that. I am sorry for the hasty action, that was stupid of me. As you can tell I'm still waking up. :( Thankfully it's only a poke for 4 damage.

I did go back and read more of your posts from this thread to refresh my memory and yeah, bad move from me.
 
Just so it's out there, Gunner's an Explorer. With all the mistrust and theories floating around I don't know if it's a really bad time for me to say this, but I have a weirdish role where I have 4 one-time abilities instead of a regular NA, and one of them is a one-time investigation. I wish I was actually able to use it to find a bad guy, but I used it on Gunner last night and she's good.
 
Junobae i love how you come to defend me and such for my stupid actions and confirm my alignment to everyone, but im not sure what pokemon attacks does that have to do with your description.... elaborate?
 
Universe said:
Yeah, I can agree with that. I am sorry for the hasty action, that was stupid of me. As you can tell I'm still waking up. :( Thankfully it's only a poke for 4 damage.

I did go back and read more of your posts from this thread to refresh my memory and yeah, bad move from me.
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No prob :P I understand people not fully trusting me. Afterall it's beyond my role\s capacity to prove my innocence beyond what I have done/said so far. And having a night attack, being a shady (hehe) pokemon can definitely make me seem sketchy, so I don't blame you at all for thinking me Rocket. I just want to make it clear though, I really don't think it would make sense for me to have a night attack and the ability to poison whomever visits me and/or roleblock them. :P

Also, assuming Juno is telling the truth, then sorry Gunner for hitting you tonight.

Uuuugh, I have no idea to hit at night. I feel like everyone who has been suss at some point is now likely to be innocent after I hit them ><""

edit: Could Juno possibly be Smeargle and she can copy 4 player's abilities and use them once each? Just a shot in the dark XD
 
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