6th Gen [SO. MANY. SPOILERS.] X&Y New Photos Leaked!

[JindleBrey]

Except 719 really isn't, because it's an odd number.

That sounds a bit like OCD :)

 

[Zorogami]

Except 719 really isn't, because it's an odd number. It's really uncomfortable for a total number to end at an odd number, unless it's a 5 digit number.

well, i'm pretty sure every gen has had an odd number of pokemon??
Gen 1 had 151, Gen 3 had 349 i think, and most recently BW had 649....

I wish they introduced more Ghost and Electric types. those seem to be, besides dragons, the types that get the least new amount of pokemon. i would especially love to see some new Electric pokemon with a new cool type combo, like maybe electric/dark or electric/fighting!

 

[BeefTaco]

I got over the fact that there's only 70 pokemon last night. I just realized that's more that enough pokemon when you really think about it. I think the problem is that since we already knew quite a few pokemon the 30 or so revealed pokemon felt really minimal. Also guys lets not forget the fact that this is probably gonna be a better pokemon game than the previous ones with all the new features and improvements they have added for both Casuals and Competitive players.

We are seeing the Pokemon handheld world in 3D for the first time, I don't know about you guys but Im excited to see my favorite pokemon in this game (Darkrai, Feraligatr, Hitmolee). There's also all the move animations we haven't seen. When you look at all the positives it kinda makes you forget the amount of new pokemon which in my opinion is actually ok.

 

[Mana1]

Except 719 really isn't, because it's an odd number. It's really uncomfortable for a total number to end at an odd number, unless it's a 5 digit number. The benefit of introducing 100+ new Pokémon is to diversify certain types that currently in the low numbers (there aren't that many Ghost, Dragon, Steel, Ice, and Rock types in the national dex, and there's too many Normal, Grass, and Water types), so that's why need more filler Pokémon such as those Geodude clones you've mentioned. All 18 types must be equally balanced in terms of numbers.

So you want filler pokemon just for balance?...

There are three new ghost families, two new ice families, a plethora of dragon types, etc. Other than the abundance of grass types these new editions are balancing the types. The reason for so many grass types is probably because many are underused or ignored anyway.

 

[Suicune]

But I still wanted GF to give us at least 100 new Pokémon to make me satisfied, because all this focus on the older Pokémon can be a bad thing, as it'll overshadow the new guys, who are suppose to be main focus. They did it right with Gen V by having no old Pokémon until post-game up until its sequel, thus giving us the same experience we had with the first games.

I guess I understand; and the announcement that none of the Kalos region Pokémon will be getting a Mega Evolution doesn't help on the their stand-out, but I'm hoping their stats will. I'm sure once the games release they will be as mingled as the other generations are. (rather than shadowed)

This is also a stretch, but maybe they will do it backwards where there are tons of old Pokémon to reminisce and introduce the Kalos secret of evolution, while the sequel(s) focus on a new stream of another 15+ Pokémon. I'm not sure how that would work, but I'm sure they will figure out something if it seems to be a problem. XD

 

[blue]

Just out of curiosity though, is Cynthia in-game? She's been in all games since her introduction in Diamond & Pearl so I'd expect to see her make some sort of cameo appearance.

 

[jellotime91]

It just shows Game Freak's weakness more -- they are bad at making 3D stuff. :/

Abomasnow has Snow Warning since its debut, and I don't find it intimidating -- Mega or not.
Despite its Mega looking handsome, but the stats are still unimpressive. :(

I don't think they are bad at 3D AT ALL! This game is gorgeous.

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

So you want filler pokemon just for balance?...

There are three new ghost families, two new ice families, a plethora of dragon types, etc. Other than the abundance of grass types these new editions are balancing the types. The reason for so many grass types is probably because many are underused or ignored anyway.

Two new Ice lines isn't good enough, there needs to be more, because another reason to diversify certain types is to help diversify teams for Gym Leaders and Elite Four members, so none of them won't have to share each other's sig Pokémon for their own team (Ex: Agatha should be the only Ghost specialist to use a Gengar in her team, for it's her signature Pokémon).

 

[Sun]

Just out of curiosity though, is Cynthia in-game? She's been in all games since her introduction in Diamond & Pearl so I'd expect to see her make some sort of cameo appearance.

I swear Cynthia will one day ended up as one of the future protagonists' mother. {XD}
Ahem! Back to the main topic, it is interesting how Cynthia mentioned that she's from somewhere far away and not from Unova. Maybe... ^^

 

[PlatinumDude]

So Zyrgarde is the anti-Xerneas/Yveltal, given its ability, even though it's still weak to Xerneas' Fairy STAB. It does have an easier time with Yveltal, though, as it can spam its Dragon STAB against it.

 

[HaphazardAsylum]

Except 719 really isn't, because it's an odd number. It's really uncomfortable for a total number to end at an odd number, unless it's a 5 digit number. The benefit of introducing 100+ new Pokémon is to diversify certain types that currently in the low numbers (there aren't that many Ghost, Dragon, Steel, Ice, and Rock types in the national dex, and there's too many Normal, Grass, and Water types), so that's why need more filler Pokémon such as those Geodude clones you've mentioned. All 18 types must be equally balanced in terms of numbers.

not to mention you cant divide 719 into 3 so either each dex has different amounts of pokemon or the 3 dexes dont matter post game

 

[Ghost Lunis]

As I skim through this thread I see people getting sore over the lack of new pokemon. I wonder where all these people have been? This is the way even numbered generations always go.
Odd numbered generation games get a crap ton of new pokemon. Look at the first game( obviously) hoenn, and unova. They were filled with new pokemon.
Now look at the even numbered generations. Gen 2 had a new type, new eeveelutions, and new evolutions for already established pokemon. Gen 4 had new ways of evolving pokemon like through knowing a certain move or being in a certain location. Also it had tons of new evolutions for already established pokemon. Now gen 6 has a new type, new eeveelution, and new methods for "evolving"( mega evolution)

So in other words, what we are seeing with this gen is nothing new but a well established trend.
Thank you and sorry I just had to vent that after a long time of not being around.

 

[Suicune]

Cynthia isn't from Sinnoh?

Also, one thing that threw me off a bit is what seems to be a lack of standby animation in battle. I know I've been thinking about PBR too much and shouldn't be comparing a Wii's animation to a 3DS, but I was a little surprised to see the double-battle involving Rhyperior, Ampharos, Politoed, etc. where they have quite a bit of motion in PBR but stand rather still in XY.

It's no big deal to me at all. I just happen to notice and miss the pumped animations.

 

[Hikamaru]

Just out of curiosity though, is Cynthia in-game? She's been in all games since her introduction in Diamond & Pearl so I'd expect to see her make some sort of cameo appearance.

No I haven't seen any hint towards her appearing based on what I've seen so far. Also, it's interesting to know that Kalos is the third region in a row to have a female Champion, after Cynthia (Sinnoh) and Iris (Unova, in B2/W2 only).

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

As I skim through this thread I see people getting sore over the lack of new pokemon. I wonder where all these people have been? This is the way even numbered generations always go.
Odd numbered generation games get a crap ton of new pokemon. Look at the first game( obviously) hoenn, and unova. They were filled with new pokemon.
Now look at the even numbered generations. Gen 2 had a new type, new eeveelutions, and new evolutions for already established pokemon. Gen 4 had new ways of evolving pokemon like through knowing a certain move or being in a certain location. Also it had tons of new evolutions for already established pokemon. Now gen 6 has a new type, new eeveelution, and new methods for "evolving"( mega evolution)

So in other words, what we are seeing with this gen is nothing new but a well established trend.
Thank you and sorry I just had to vent that after a long time of not being around.

The main problem with Kalos' number is because the previous even-numbered gens introduced at least 100 new Pokémon, but this even-numbered gen only introduced only 70 rather than the expected 100+. We thought there was going to be 105 new mons due to how the previous two regional dexes for Kalos each contained 35 new mons, but that wasn't the case.

 

[blue]

Another Hoenn reference, and this one is less subtle;

"There is some old people who say they are celebrating there 40th anniversary they even say that it's there Ruby anniversary, they also mention that 45 years would be the Sapphire anniversary."

Apparently this is some dialogue from an elderly couple in Pokémon X and Y, although not confirmed I think this is something worthy of a mention atleast.

 

[Hikamaru]

Cynthia isn't from Sinnoh?

Also, one thing that threw me off a bit is what seems to be a lack of standby animation in battle. I know I've been thinking about PBR too much and shouldn't be comparing a Wii's animation to a 3DS, but I was a little surprised to see the double-battle involving Rhyperior, Ampharos, Politoed, etc. where they have quite a bit of motion in PBR but stand rather still in XY.

It's no big deal to me at all. I just happen to notice and miss the pumped animations.

Well, going by what we've seen in the trailers and various videos of game footage, the 3D models still have some idle motion in battle. It's just not as lively as the ones in Battle Revolution.

Another Hoenn reference, and this one is less subtle;

"There is some old people who say they are celebrating there 40th anniversary they even say that it's there Ruby anniversary, they also mention that 45 years would be the Sapphire anniversary."

Apparently this is some dialogue from an elderly couple in Pokémon X and Y, although not confirmed I think this is something worthy of a mention at least.

Wow another reference to the fact we may get Ruby & Sapphire remakes, but this time they actually mention the words "Ruby" and "Sapphire". I'm starting to believe the Hoenn Confirmed jokes I've been seeing are proven to be getting even more true so no surprise if we do hear an announcement for the remakes sometime.

 

[HaphazardAsylum]

Another Hoenn reference, and this one is less subtle;

"There is some old people who say they are celebrating there 40th anniversary they even say that it's there Ruby anniversary, they also mention that 45 years would be the Sapphire anniversary."

Apparently this is some dialogue from an elderly couple in Pokémon X and Y, although not confirmed I think this is something worthy of a mention atleast.

if that is in the game i think its likelier that its just them trolling people lol

 

[Forrest Gump]

I wish they just introduced more Ground types. All we have is Diggersby and the legendary. The legendary is post-game, right? And Diggersby is just ugly to me, but looks like I'll pick one up...

 

[HaphazardAsylum]

Qouting myself here because i really like my idea and i really do want people to be more creative and positive and less sore. So.............................ANSWER ME GOD DAMN IT! Is my idea good or not?

dubai would be cool i may be biased a bit but id like to see UK/ROI as there could be a huge diversity not to mention Ireland is one of my favourite places so a game based around that and pulling from its history would be amazing, there'd be obvious trope esque pokemon like a leprechaun inspired one but i'd be cool with that